Tallis accuses Roosters of cheating the cap

[Salvatori Grubber]

Just the one with a team full of local products and NRL debutants that came through Souths.

Gotta love Souffs fans. Heads full of fairy dust, man.

Let’s see. In your 2014 gf side I see 6 or so players who made their FG debut with Souths.

1 Greg Inglis
2 Alex Johnston
3 Dylan Walker
4 Kirisome Auva'a
5 Lote Tuqiri
6 Luke Keary
7 Adam Reynolds
8 George Burgess
21 Apisai Koroisau
10 Dave Tyrrell
11 Ben Te'o
12 John Sutton (c)
13 Sam Burgess

Interchange
14 Jason Clark
15 Kyle Turner
16 Chris McQueen
17 Thomas Burgess


In our winning side from the season prior, I count 10 or 11.

1. Anthony Minichiello (c)
2. Daniel Tupou
3. Michael Jennings
4. Shaun Kenny-Dowall
5. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
6. James Maloney
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
9. Jake Friend
10. Sam Moa
11. Aidan Guerra
12. Sonny Bill Williams
13. Frank-Paul Nuuausala

Interchange
14. Daniel Mortimer
15. Mitchell Aubusson
16. Isaac Liu
17. Dylan Napa

[Kentucky_Fried_Rooster]

We are officially under the cap.
Is there a second set of books that we don’t know about like the storm had, if there is only a few people would know and no one on here would know. A lot of other club fans probably believe there is.

Most players will take unders to have a chance to win a premiership, Moses is a prime example staying at Parramatta for a decent finical lose. Tigers would have been a big payday but they have less chance of winning than Parramatta.

[ShadowCaster]

There is something very "try hard" about spending your time on another club's fan forum. As I'm sure deep down you're aware.

Just following suit with your members on our forums constantly

[ShadowCaster]

Oh yeah like.. Burgess x 3 and GI.
Without them you wouldn't have gone close to winning.

GI is the only one there that makes sense to your point. S Burgess debuted in the NRL via Souths, and the twins played Flegg and cup....

[ShadowCaster]

Gotta love Souffs fans. Heads full of fairy dust, man.

Let’s see. In your 2014 gf side I see 6 or so players who made their FG debut with Souths.

1 Greg Inglis
2 Alex Johnston
3 Dylan Walker
4 Kirisome Auva'a
5 Lote Tuqiri
6 Luke Keary
7 Adam Reynolds
8 George Burgess
21 Apisai Koroisau
10 Dave Tyrrell
11 Ben Te'o
12 John Sutton (c)
13 Sam Burgess

Interchange
14 Jason Clark
15 Kyle Turner
16 Chris McQueen
17 Thomas Burgess


In our winning side from the season prior, I count 10 or 11.

1. Anthony Minichiello (c)
2. Daniel Tupou
3. Michael Jennings
4. Shaun Kenny-Dowall
5. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
6. James Maloney
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
9. Jake Friend
10. Sam Moa
11. Aidan Guerra
12. Sonny Bill Williams
13. Frank-Paul Nuuausala

Interchange
14. Daniel Mortimer
15. Mitchell Aubusson
16. Isaac Liu
17. Dylan Napa

1. Greg Inglis -Marquee signing
2 Alex Johnston - Souths Junior
3 Dylan Walker - Souths junior
4 Kirisome Auva'a - Souths Cup
5 Lote Tuqiri - NRL lifeline
6 Luke Keary - Souths junior
7 Adam Reynolds - Souths Junior
8 George Burgess - Souths Junior
21 Apisai Koroisau - debuted at Souths
10 Dave Tyrrell - Souths Junior
11 Ben Te'o - broncos signing
12 John Sutton (c) - 300 game Souths Junior
13 Sam Burgess - Souths NRL debutant

Interchange
14 Jason Clark - Souths junior
15 Kyle Turner Souths cup signing
16 Chris McQueen - Souths NRL debutant
17 Thomas Burgess - Souths Junior

...... lots of local products there.

[Inflictor]

Just the one with a team full of local products and NRL debutants that came through Souths.

Plus some average players to mix in with your NRL debutants:
Greg Inglis
Sam Burgess
Ben Te'o
Lote Tuqiri
George Burgess
Thomas Burgess
Gerard Sutton
Shayne Hayne

For the record the Roosters 2018 premiers only had these guys who weren't local products or NRL debutants:
James Tedesco
Blake Ferguson
Luke Keary
Cooper Cronk
Zane Tetevano
Jared Waerea-Hargreaves (played 6 games for Manly prior to joining us)
Sio Siua Taukeiaho (played one game for Warriors in 2013. Unwanted and debut for us in 2015)

And the Roosters 2019 B2B premiers:
James Tedesco
Brett Morris
Luke Keary
Cooper Cronk
Jared Waerea-Hargreaves (played 6 games for Manly prior to joining us)
Sio Siua Taukeiaho (played one game for Warriors in 2013. Unwanted and debut for us in 2015)

[bondi.boy]

Listened to Mark Bouris on James Graham's podcast. He explained how the players have access to the expertise and knowledge of board members such as himself and Nick and that this can help players prepare for life outside footy. He told the story of how Connor Watson had contacted him to set up a meeting to discuss his side business he has with Kalyn Ponga and it's that sort of expertise which we sell as one of the benefits of signing with the Roosters. The Bulldogs might have offered a player $700k and we might offer them $600k a season but we can sell them on the shortfall by saying we can help make sure that they make the most of that $600k, reduce your tax, make sure it's invested so that one day in the future the $600k is worth exponentially more than the Bulldogs offer. Other fans don't get this and when it's explained they think it's still 'rorting the cap'.

Thank you.
It all explained perfectly clearly.
Exactly a large part of why players sign with the Roosters for less.
Add in Bondi beach, Allianz Stadium, the Roosters way, what it means to be a Rooster, encouraging young men to be of good character etc.

[bondi.boy]

"Tallis accuses Roosters of cheating the cap".
If that is exactly true, basically accusing the Roosters board and officials of being cheats, dishonest....that could be seen in some light as "defamation"?

[Timmah]

If that were true where are your juniors?

Crichton, Allan, Paulo, Keary, bother butchers, Suallii, previously souths,. Walker from broncos, Teddy from tigers, Smith from storm, Collins broncos, lodge penrith..... I could go on..

Seriously? You absolute nonce! Your
maggot ridden, shite hole of a club took most of our junior teams- and yet we’ve STILL won 6 premierships to your pathetic 1 in the last 40 years. Hahahaha
”In your shadow”??? What a joke. soufs are nothing more than a skid mark on the undies of Sydney rugby league.
If it wasn’t for old Rusty’s $$$, you’d still be languishing in NSW cup as NRL wannabes.
Juniors??- Quite a few English and QLD acquisitions in the vermin of late lol….still, must be nice being the perpetual CHOKERS every year.
Why are you even in this forum you complete twat?
Wouldn’t your time be better spent learning how to read and write, along with the rest of the illiterate, toothless dole bludging ,vermin supporting peasants ??

[Waylander]

GI is the only one there that makes sense to your point. S Burgess debuted in the NRL via Souths, and the twins played Flegg and cup....

Right, so buying an established International (he debuted for England in 2007) counts as a local junior? Because he hadn't played for another NRL team?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In that case, Nat Butcher must be Roosters junior, because he made his NRL debut for us ... and Egan, wait, so did Sua'ali'i ... he's our too then !!

[redwhiteblue]

"Tallis accuses Roosters of cheating the cap".
If that is exactly true, basically accusing the Roosters board and officials of being cheats, dishonest....that could be seen in some light as "defamation"?

He wrote that in his book too BB..hence it being flung into the charity bin..very dramatically I might add.....

[redwhiteblue]

Thank you for the acknowledgement and don't you ever forget those facts.
Discuss it amongst the ignoramuses in The Burrow.

PS. Rusty doesn't do cheque book rugby league....LOL

Yes he paid for the Burgess brothers with bitcoin..

[redwhiteblue]

Just following suit with your members on our forums constantly

The big difference is that my people (Easts) don't need to steal devices like your people (Souths) in order to log onto your so called forums. I highly doubt there are as many Roosters fans as you think on there. Most of us have jobs for starters (I'm waiting for my lunch to cool down ) and there is no vaccine for any sort of virus our members may pick up from your forums.

You remind me of the one who always protests too much about something yet cannot seem to leave it alone...

[Salvatori Grubber]

1. Greg Inglis -Marquee signing
2 Alex Johnston - Souths Junior
3 Dylan Walker - Souths junior
4 Kirisome Auva'a - Souths Cup
5 Lote Tuqiri - NRL lifeline
6 Luke Keary - Souths junior
7 Adam Reynolds - Souths Junior
8 George Burgess - Souths Junior
21 Apisai Koroisau - debuted at Souths
10 Dave Tyrrell - Souths Junior
11 Ben Te'o - broncos signing
12 John Sutton (c) - 300 game Souths Junior
13 Sam Burgess - Souths NRL debutant

Interchange
14 Jason Clark - Souths junior
15 Kyle Turner Souths cup signing
16 Chris McQueen - Souths NRL debutant
17 Thomas Burgess - Souths Junior

...... lots of local products there.

Written in old mate’s style, I can make shit up too. There’s also a few 300+ game players there too. Could add Cordner in there as well.

1. Anthony Minichiello (c) Roosters Junior
2. Daniel Tupou Roosters Junior
3. Michael Jennings NRL lifeline
4. Shaun Kenny-Dowall Roosters Junior
5. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck Roosters Junior
6. James Maloney Marquee signing
7. Mitchell Pearce Roosters Junior
8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves Learnt his trade at the Roosters
9. Jake Friend Roosters Junior
10. Sam Moa NRL lifeline
11. Aidan Guerra Roosters Junior
12. Sonny Bill Williams Marquee signing
13. Frank-Paul Nuuausala Roosters Junior

Interchange
14. Daniel Mortimer NRL lifeline
15. Mitchell Aubusson Roosters Junior
16. Isaac Liu Roosters Junior
17. Dylan Napa Roosters Junior

[MKCS]

1. Greg Inglis -Marquee signing
2 Alex Johnston - Souths Junior
3 Dylan Walker - Souths junior
4 Kirisome Auva'a - Souths Cup
5 Lote Tuqiri - NRL lifeline
6 Luke Keary - Souths junior
7 Adam Reynolds - Souths Junior
8 George Burgess - Souths Junior
21 Apisai Koroisau - debuted at Souths
10 Dave Tyrrell - Souths Junior
11 Ben Te'o - broncos signing
12 John Sutton (c) - 300 game Souths Junior
13 Sam Burgess - Souths NRL debutant

Interchange
14 Jason Clark - Souths junior
15 Kyle Turner Souths cup signing
16 Chris McQueen - Souths NRL debutant
17 Thomas Burgess - Souths Junior

...... lots of local products there.

A lot of these aren't particularly valid, George Burgess for example played youth internationals for England before Souths even signed him, he's a local product of whoever developed him before that, Api was playing in Bankstown league, Sam Burgess played almost 100 league games professionally and was a regular in the national team before Souths signed him, Keary was developed in QLD and did just a one season stint in the Souths youth team, Kyle Turner did most of his junior football 6 hours from Redfern, Tom Burgess had played like 2 seasons as a professional before signing up with Souths, he isn't a Souths junior.

They did have a lot of players in that squad who debuted at Souths which is great but you're misrepresenting how many of them were genuine Souths juniors, from memory a majority of the Roosters grand final sides have featured players who debuted at the Roosters as well.