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Originally posted by Red. View Post
That is a straight out lie. There have been 3 deaths in Scotland contributed to vaccination. I don't know where you "Critical Thinkers" get you information but I'm guessing it's from people like Alan Jones.
https://beta.publichealthscotland.sc...ion_report.pdf
p28.....Says "Between 8 December 2020 and 11 June 2021, a total of 5,522 people died within 28 days of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine in Scotland"
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Originally posted by Kingbilly View PostTo those that say its not that serious. I worked with a couple of people that lost relatives overseas. One got it and 3 days later was dead. A good mate lost his dad in the UK to covid. A family we know in the eastern suburbs of Sydney got it the 2 young kids and the dad were sick but could handle staying at home. The mother spent 9 days seriously ill in hospital ( no pre existing conditions) she still sounds terrible. An ex NRL Rooster caught it recently in the UK and was extremely ill
These are just a few examples that I know of personally. To wear a mask I don't consider that an imposition, if you do then I think wearing a mask is the least of your problems. Staying at home, no sport and the lockdown I am no fan of but if it means that my family and friends especially the older ones are a bit safer, well there has been worse.
Has our govt been great, no but they have been far from the worst, Sweden (a pop of 10m) are denying it and already almost 15K have died .
One of our biggest problems is the media, mixed messages, dumb ass questions and plain unprofessional BS. All about trying to be "clever" instead of providing information.
Do what you want, but just remember as much as many seem to want everything to be about themselves, its not.
If you struggle to do a few simple things, abide by a few simple rules, then you really are not much of a contributor to society are you.
Not necessarily meaning to sound accusation but its not that hard really. Just because you don't know anyone affected means bugger all. If you need to bring Trump into it (or any US politics at all) then shit you have missed the point of life all together
Their only ambition is scaremongering and constantly sewing the seeds for confusion at any opportunity. They hate any liberal government. All they want is to divide opinion. They are the main ones to blame for slow vaccine take up and roll out. They stand at those press conferences and do nothing but try to come up with any pedantic thing that might have been overlooked. It is a joke. The ABC of course are the worst of all. They could be building confidence in the community, but they choose to do the opposite. Most of them (except the taxpayer funded one) are going down the gurgler. And they wonder why. They won't be missed, and I reckon history will record the appalling role they've played in all this.Last edited by Batemans Bay Rooster; 07-31-2021, 07:58 PM.
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Originally posted by ROC181 View Post
One negative post since 2017? You're delusional! I think you have been on the meds for a very long time and it's time you went to rehab.
I have seen your post, half of them attacking peeps who don't agree with your views. U have serious issues dude...time to face that mirror of truth hehe.....
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Originally posted by Rocky Rhodes View Post
Really....Perhaps u need a do a tad of radical research....this is from Scotland public health site..
https://beta.publichealthscotland.sc...ion_report.pdf
p28.....Says "Between 8 December 2020 and 11 June 2021, a total of 5,522 people died within 28 days of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine in Scotland"
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Originally posted by Rocky Rhodes View Post
Really....Perhaps u need a do a tad of radical research....this is from Scotland public health site..
https://beta.publichealthscotland.sc...ion_report.pdf
p28.....Says "Between 8 December 2020 and 11 June 2021, a total of 5,522 people died within 28 days of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine in Scotland"
https://theferret.scot/multiple-deat...and-half-true/
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Originally posted by Andrew Walker View PostJust back from a lovely afternoon at an Eastern Suburbs beach. Cracking thread this. I actually didn’t think this would go in this direction The bedwetters are really arking up here. Carry on. I’m about to do my tax Can’t wait to see if this thread follows the same trajectory"Those who care about you can hear you, even when you are quiet" - Steve Maraboli
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Originally posted by Rocky Rhodes View Post
Really....Perhaps u need a do a tad of radical research....this is from Scotland public health site..
https://beta.publichealthscotland.sc...ion_report.pdf
p28.....Says "Between 8 December 2020 and 11 June 2021, a total of 5,522 people died within 28 days of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine in Scotland"
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Originally posted by Red. View Post"Those who care about you can hear you, even when you are quiet" - Steve Maraboli
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Originally posted by Rocky Rhodes View Post
Really....Perhaps u need a do a tad of radical research....this is from Scotland public health site..
https://beta.publichealthscotland.sc...ion_report.pdf
p28.....Says "Between 8 December 2020 and 11 June 2021, a total of 5,522 people died within 28 days of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine in Scotland"
"The analysis includes all recorded deaths due to any cause and does not refer to deaths caused by the vaccine itself. As the vaccination programme is being rolled out to the entire adult population, many people will experience an illness or death in the days following their vaccination by coincidence. This is particularly the case for those vaccinated early in the programme, when the programme prioritised the very elderly population and those with pre-existing underlying health conditions."
"Using the 5-year average monthly death rate (by age band and gender) from 2015 to 2019 for comparison, 8,718 deaths would have been expected among the vaccinated population within 28 days of receiving their COVID-19 vaccination. This means the observed number of deaths is lower than expected compared with mortality rates for the same time period in previous years."
People who do the statistical analysis of these things are very smart people. They are what we call experts. We should listen to them.
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Originally posted by Easts75 View Post
Haha if you belive this stat is remotely correct you are literally beyond help in life hahaha
in 2019 170 000 people died in australia, most of them old. if you have millions of older australians taking the vaccine it's inevitable that some of them will die - the vaccine won't protect you from anything other than covid
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Originally posted by Spirit of 66 View Post
Did you read that research? You might have missed these important points:
"The analysis includes all recorded deaths due to any cause and does not refer to deaths caused by the vaccine itself. As the vaccination programme is being rolled out to the entire adult population, many people will experience an illness or death in the days following their vaccination by coincidence. This is particularly the case for those vaccinated early in the programme, when the programme prioritised the very elderly population and those with pre-existing underlying health conditions."
"Using the 5-year average monthly death rate (by age band and gender) from 2015 to 2019 for comparison, 8,718 deaths would have been expected among the vaccinated population within 28 days of receiving their COVID-19 vaccination. This means the observed number of deaths is lower than expected compared with mortality rates for the same time period in previous years."
People who do the statistical analysis of these things are very smart people. They are what we call experts. We should listen to them.
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Originally posted by zac View Post
sometimes people quote the figures of deaths after taking the vaccine even if they're not dying from taking the vaccine. what they ignore is that the deaths of people dying who haven't taken the vaccine (and i'm not just talking dying from covid) is far greater.
in 2019 170 000 people died in australia, most of them old. if you have millions of older australians taking the vaccine it's inevitable that some of them will die - the vaccine won't protect you from anything other than covid
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