Carney is a selfish cuunt

[chook 56]

I respect Smithy for putting his foot down in not wanting Carney around the team anymore... Carney not being here anymore is more to do with Smith than anyone else

Smith obviously spotted the biggest troublemaker, at an early stage, & made it clear that he wanted him gone.

[Johnny Tobin]

Last time I checked it was just a game. Get over it.

To me (and just about everyone else here) it isn't "just a game".

Next time patronise someone less intelligent than you.

[Johnny Tobin]

Lol@adzta

[Johnny Tobin]

Carney may well be all those things but he wasn't the cancer at the club.. that was someone else.. He too is gone.. He was the catalyst for this season to come crashing down, he found a weak and willing partner.

Carney has to take responsibility.

Stop blaming Phil Graham....

[Guest]

Lol@adzta

Best you have got? Didn't mummy pat you on the back as you went to sleep as a young kid. Needing all this praise from your buddies is the real laugh. I even had to show some of my mates who support other clubs.

They pretty much came to the same conclusion, that you are a prime example of why we are the laughing stock of the league. We turn on our players so quickly. Our chairman always goes for the quick fix, and the main point they made over a few beers, was that we can never keep anything in house like other clubs can.

You are a prime example of this. For someone in the know. Shut the Fuuck up and let your mates pat you on the back around a quite beer! There has been a thousand threads about Carney that your comments could have been added too. But look at me Tobin needs to start his own. Pathetic!

[melon....]

And that is what gets my goat Billy. For someone in a position to know whats happening, why would carry on about the refs so much to the point of conspiracy theories last year??

Why would you rave on about big banners that he can't even hold??

And even more to the point, why would you air your dirty laundry on an open forum, when you are in the know??

Love of the club maybe the answer. To me it looks like a man who needs his mates to cheer him on. And what easier way than to pick on a bloke, that already has a screwed up life to deal with. I don't know who to feel more sorry for. Todd or Tobin!

I think the answer to your question is neither. You dont feel sorry for Carney who is a childish idiot and you dont feel sorry for JT who can take care of himself.

Were you a Finch fan as well? Just asking.

[Guest]

I think the answer to your question is neither. You dont feel sorry for Carney who is a childish idiot and you dont feel sorry for JT who can take care of himself.

Were you a Finch fan as well? Just asking.

The more I read, the more I am leaning towards Tobin. Just because you have been implicated as a merry man, don't tar me with the Finch brush.

[supermario]

Alot of people say don't blame carney....and yes he is true, he cannot be blamed for the debarcle that was the first 21 rounds of season 2011.

BUT and it is a BIG BUT.

He is the lowest common denominator and he is the one the media targeted.

it is unfortunate that a person should be subjected to that sort of scrutiny, but when you are, you need to adapt, be smart with what and how you do things.

Carney was not, it caused division between the team which lead to the poor year we had.

It was the same in Canberra when he was there. The issues he had off the field caused issues with his team mates which caused problems off the field.

Carney had the perfect chance to focus this season, ride the success of last year (where he did focus and was in control), but decided to throw it away.

So while todd carney can be praised for his efforts both on and off the field in 2010, he can also be criticised for his poor performances on and off the field in 2011

[melon....]

The more I read, the more I am leaning towards Tobin. Just because you have been implicated as a merry man, don't tar me with the Finch brush.

Imply all you like. Answer the question.....were you a Finch lover?

[Guest]

Imply all you like. Answer the question.....were you a Finch lover?

No I was not a Finch lover. Cant you read between the lines. Some need thing spelt out for them.

[Guest]

Alot of people say don't blame carney....and yes he is true, he cannot be blamed for the debarcle that was the first 21 rounds of season 2011.

BUT and it is a BIG BUT.

He is the lowest common denominator and he is the one the media targeted.

it is unfortunate that a person should be subjected to that sort of scrutiny, but when you are, you need to adapt, be smart with what and how you do things.

Carney was not, it caused division between the team which lead to the poor year we had.

It was the same in Canberra when he was there. The issues he had off the field caused issues with his team mates which caused problems off the field.

Carney had the perfect chance to focus this season, ride the success of last year (where he did focus and was in control), but decided to throw it away.

So while todd carney can be praised for his efforts both on and off the field in 2010, he can also be criticised for his poor performances on and off the field in 2011

Knowone can argue with anything you have said. Surely this was worthy of its own thread!

[Red.]

and the main point they made over a few beers, was that we can never keep anything in house like other clubs can.

You man like Souths keeping quiet about Bennett agreeing to go to Redfern?

Or like the Tigers kept the Adam Blair signing such a secret?

Please.

I defy you to name one NRL team that keeps it's business in-house.

[chook 56]

You man like Souths keeping quiet about Bennett agreeing to go to Redfern?



I defy you to name one NRL team that keeps it's business in-house.

Not confined to sport.
The larger the organisation the harder to keep a lid on the goings on.
Uncle Rupert will vouch that at the mo lol

[melon....]

No I was not a Finch lover. Cant you read between the lines. Some need thing spelt out for them.

Oh I can read between the lines. Just as you seem to be quick to judge.

But when I ask a question I want straight answers.

Carry on.

[trewhella]

I enjoyed reading this.

Adtza or whoever you are, you are just angry about something else in your life.
You can't be that pissed at Tobin for writing that.
Please.

Everyone knows that Toddy was a massive risk.
He is a car crash

And you know yourself, that when there is a car crash everyone slows down to have a look.
It's one he'll of a distraction when you are trying to reach a destination.

They way they played without Nate and Todd was an emphatic statement to the power brokers at the club.
A no "****w1t" policy.
If Carney leaving was a catalyst for Frank Paul having a dig then it is all worth while.
Frank Paul in form is crucial to the success of the joint.

And also in regards to Tobin,
If anyone was in your shoes it was me.
We hated each other for years.insults, personal abuse,character assassination........(sigh), those were the days!!
Just ask Billy Gunn how much of a prick he is.