Tetevano Hit

[Game Fowl]

Under the current interpretation of the rules, onus is on the defender not to come into contact with the head. Would have been considered a good tackle in about 2004 but those days are long gone.

If a rooster player got smashed in the head and stretchered off like that you'd all be calling out for a long suspension, come on get real.

This is the problem, if he jumps up and plays on , it was a great tackle , if he is hurt its 3 weeks, too reactionary.

[Guest]

Yo we is all one eyed Roosters but what are the rest of the NRL community seeing that we aren't you know what Im sayin. It was one of the best hits I have ever seen yo.

[Game Fowl]

And that's the problem. You can't penalize the injury. Only the play and that surely looked like a great play to many of us.

That is what I alluded too.

[dice]

Hit of the year

[BallyChook]

Mini escaped a suspension a while back just before the semis for a high tackle.

From recollection they charged him with an offence (the wrong one) and he was successful in arguing against that and was completely exonerated. That's what will need to happen here.

However I don't like our chances given the injury sustained - which shouldn't come into it mind you. It was just a great front-on tackle.

[Guest]

^^ Yo this is perspective you know what I'm sayin

[BallyChook]

Hit of the year

The no penalty there was just incredible but entirely predictable.

Luckily for us the resulting scrum was a debacle and we all know what happened after that.

[dice]

The no penalty there was just incredible but entirely predictable.

Luckily for us the resulting scrum was a debacle and we all know what happened after that.

Very similar with JWH lowering and Dwyer rising before impact. Unfortunately, it is not a precedence because it never went to the judiciary.

Assuming Tetevano has no carry over points (?), I expect Roosters to plead guilty and contest the grading only. That would mean Tetevano would be free to play if downgraded to Grade 1 Careless.

[Waylander]

Assuming Tetevano has no carry over points (?), I expect Roosters to plead guilty and contest the grading only. That would mean Tetevano would be free to play if downgraded to Grade 1 Careless.

He has no carry over points, and a completely clean record. However, I don't think you can downgrade from a Reckless charge, to a Careless one. We could try for a Grade 1 Reckless, which would reduce the suspension to 2 weeks (IIRC).

I'm hoping for a 'Minichiello' verdict, as mentioned earlier. If we can demonstrate that it wasn't reckless at all, then he could get off scott-free like Mini a few years ago.

[barryd]

You can only bring up incidents that got charged. So we can only use past cases as jistification for a downgrade or dismisal. We can't use hits that weren't charged.

Will Chambers was charged and received a fine

[dice]

He has no carry over points, and a completely clean record. However, I don't think you can downgrade from a Reckless charge, to a Careless one. We could try for a Grade 1 Reckless, which would reduce the suspension to 2 weeks (IIRC).

I'm hoping for a 'Minichiello' verdict, as mentioned earlier. If we can demonstrate that it wasn't reckless at all, then he could get off scott-free like Mini a few years ago.

Are you saying that if judiciary agrees it was Careless instead of Reckless he gets of scott free? It true then I agree there will be no guilty plea.

[ism22]

I am not so sure.

If they can show it's not reckless then I think it can disappear altogether.

And that's exactly what he's doing...

http://www.nrl.com/tetevano-lussick-...9/default.aspx

Guilty plea, disputes offence. Reckless, grade 3 was overly harsh and they know it. A grade 3 reckless would be leading with your forearm cocked and then extending it towards their chin (or higher) as you make contact.

IMO the judiciary will have a very difficult time proving it's a grade 3 reckless. Cummins did this maliciously to try and force him to plead guilty and challenge the grading rather than saying 'it wasn't high at all'.

I'll take it 1 step further... I think Cummins should be rested for the finals series based on his form if it's anything but a grade 3 reckless. He made way too many mistakes:
1. Got a forward pass wrong
2. Called a legit tackle a grade 3 reckless (rookie error)
3. Had touchies dictating to him all night (who is making the decisions in this relationship mate?!?!?)

IMO this is enough to demonstrate he should play no part in the reffing of the finals. Whoever missed the send-off offence from Maloney last week should be stood down too. These might sound like minor errors, but you can't afford to make mistakes of this magnitude in sudden death finals. IMO it's reasonable to stand down refs for such things, otherwise they will never learn.

[BallyChook]

And that's exactly what he's doing...

http://www.nrl.com/tetevano-lussick-...9/default.aspx

Guilty plea, disputes offence. Reckless, grade 3 was overly harsh and they know it. A grade 3 reckless would be leading with your forearm cocked and then extending it towards their chin (or higher) as you make contact.

IMO the judiciary will have a very difficult time proving it's a grade 3 reckless. Cummins did this maliciously to try and force him to plead guilty and challenge the grading rather than saying 'it wasn't high at all'.

I'll take it 1 step further... I think Cummins should be rested for the finals series based on his form if it's anything but a grade 3 reckless. He made way too many mistakes:
1. Got a forward pass wrong
2. Called a legit tackle a grade 3 reckless (rookie error)
3. Had touchies dictating to him all night (who is making the decisions in this relationship mate?!?!?)

IMO this is enough to demonstrate he should play no part in the reffing of the finals. Whoever missed the send-off offence from Maloney last week should be stood down too. These might sound like minor errors, but you can't afford to make mistakes of this magnitude in sudden death finals. IMO it's reasonable to stand down refs for such things, otherwise they will never learn.

As much as dislike Cummins, it's my understanding that it's the Match Review Committee who formulate the charge and grading. I don't think you can blame Cummins for this. I would be happy though if he was rubbed out for the finals (Cummins, that is).

[Tommy Smith]

Was it late like Soliolas? No of course not.

Was there a swinging arm? No.

By what metric was it reckless?

Careless? Fine I can live with that even if I disagree. But reckless? Get ****ed.

[The Sack]

I personally missed that mate. Is that why they call you sack.

A member of your family gave me the name lol.