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Originally posted by Bates View PostFoxsports are now suggesting that it's just a handshake deal.
Let's hope Robbo had his fingers on his other hand crossed making the agreement null and void.
At different points during the year DCE has been signed, it is only a hand shake deal, he has a 2 year contract, he has signed a 1 year contract and then will be the halves coach, the deal is worth anywhere from $500K to $1M, he will retire (fingers crossed). I believe none of it. Just clickbait on a big news story.
At some point the one who arsed it will come out and say I told you so.
FFS
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Originally posted by Inflictor View Post
There have been half a dozen different versions of events in the last week from different reporters. Some claim they have spoken to the Roosters and others to the DCE camp.
At different points during the year DCE has been signed, it is only a hand shake deal, he has a 2 year contract, he has signed a 1 year contract and then will be the halves coach, the deal is worth anywhere from $500K to $1M, he will retire (fingers crossed). I believe none of it. Just clickbait on a big news story.
At some point the one who arsed it will come out and say I told you so.
FFS
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Originally posted by Bates View PostThis is how I would play it.
Happy to honour the handshake deal however based on current form Sammy and Hugo are our preferred pairing with DCE playing Cup and biding his time.
If DCE is happy with that then game on moles
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Originally posted by A Country Member View PostNah, what he needs is an honest conversation about his form and legacy. And all I’d give him is a hook to hang his boots on.
Imo the likelihood of him playing NSW Cup could be the best way out.
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DCE comes across to me likes it’s DCE world and we are all just living in it
selfish and all about himself - he has ****ed over manly before and now again and the titans
just retire like you should have done with rep footy before being pushed out
this selfishness if everything the roosters don’t want - we need team players
and Sammy Walker and Hugo Savala are out halves for the best 10 plus years
so unless he wants to come on $200k and play reserve grade and help nurture a rodwell through no way is he good enough
he has lost interest and lost the manly team and club
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I definitely think it’s been handled poorly by both parties. It’s just been a circus from Day 1. If he’s coming why don’t we just get on the front foot and end the ability for the media to speculate and destabilise with their crap.
In terms of on field, I’m still cutting him a bit of slack as I genuinely think he’s completely checked out from Manly and their coach and is coasting to avoid injury. I think we haven’t seen anywhere near what he’s capable of and I reckon once he hits 350 this week I reckon he won’t play for final 2 weeks of the year.
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40/20: DCE: 2 - Hugo: 0
Errors: DCE: 16 - Hugo: 14
Kicking Metres: DCE: 8790 - Hugo: 5441
Linebreaks: DCE: 5 - Hugo: 2
Linebreak Assists: DCE: 10 - Hugo: 2
Offloads: DCE: 17 - Hugo: 5
Running Metres: DCE: 1324 - Hugo: 680
Tackles: DCE: 386 made, 43 missed - Hugo: 376 made, 34 missed
Tackle Breaks: DCE: 30 - Hugo: 13
Try Assists: DCE: 14 - Hugo: 9
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Looking at these stats you can see that despite a shocking 4-5 weeks DCE still beats Hugo in almost everything, Hugo is slightly less error prone and slightly better in defence this year but DCE beats him with in play kicking, playmaking and funnily enough even running game which is odd as running isn't really DCE's expertise especially at 36 years old.
Furthermore, Hugo plays at a better team with better players surrounding him, doesn't have the media pressure, doesn't have the Origin dropping or inner club turmoil playing on his mind or anything like that, DCE does.
You guys really don't think that DCE comes next year and looks much better in our team? No media pressure, no toxicity, no Origin dropping, a team that 1-17 is probably better than Manly and a much better halves partner? I think all signs point to yes, he would do better. Worst case scenario if he plays as bad as he has this year he's still better than Hugo statistically anyway...
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Originally posted by MKCS View Post40/20: DCE: 2 - Hugo: 0
Errors: DCE: 16 - Hugo: 14
Kicking Metres: DCE: 8790 - Hugo: 5441
Linebreaks: DCE: 5 - Hugo: 2
Linebreak Assists: DCE: 10 - Hugo: 2
Offloads: DCE: 17 - Hugo: 5
Running Metres: DCE: 1324 - Hugo: 680
Tackles: DCE: 386 made, 43 missed - Hugo: 376 made, 34 missed
Tackle Breaks: DCE: 30 - Hugo: 13
Try Assists: DCE: 14 - Hugo: 9
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Looking at these stats you can see that despite a shocking 4-5 weeks DCE still beats Hugo in almost everything, Hugo is slightly less error prone and slightly better in defence this year but DCE beats him with in play kicking, playmaking and funnily enough even running game which is odd as running isn't really DCE's expertise especially at 36 years old.
Furthermore, Hugo plays at a better team with better players surrounding him, doesn't have the media pressure, doesn't have the Origin dropping or inner club turmoil playing on his mind or anything like that, DCE does.
You guys really don't think that DCE comes next year and looks much better in our team? No media pressure, no toxicity, no Origin dropping, a team that 1-17 is probably better than Manly and a much better halves partner? I think all signs point to yes, he would do better. Worst case scenario if he plays as bad as he has this year he's still better than Hugo statistically anyway...
DCE - 1675 Minutes
Hugo - 1159 Minutes
DCE has played 516 minutes more which equates to 6.45 games.
As for the dramas at Manly. This is all DCE doing! The fact that he hasn't announced where he's going next season is selfish and has destabilised his teams season. What a little prick!
The best indicator of where he's at is SOO. There were no dramas and he was surrounded by world class players and still failed. QLD replace him and they go on to win the next 2 games and the series.
Time to give it up and jump on board the Hugo and Sammy bus which has transformed our season and has opposition looking over their shoulder.
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Originally posted by MKCS View Post40/20: DCE: 2 - Hugo: 0
Errors: DCE: 16 - Hugo: 14
Kicking Metres: DCE: 8790 - Hugo: 5441
Linebreaks: DCE: 5 - Hugo: 2
Linebreak Assists: DCE: 10 - Hugo: 2
Offloads: DCE: 17 - Hugo: 5
Running Metres: DCE: 1324 - Hugo: 680
Tackles: DCE: 386 made, 43 missed - Hugo: 376 made, 34 missed
Tackle Breaks: DCE: 30 - Hugo: 13
Try Assists: DCE: 14 - Hugo: 9
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Looking at these stats you can see that despite a shocking 4-5 weeks DCE still beats Hugo in almost everything, Hugo is slightly less error prone and slightly better in defence this year but DCE beats him with in play kicking, playmaking and funnily enough even running game which is odd as running isn't really DCE's expertise especially at 36 years old.
Furthermore, Hugo plays at a better team with better players surrounding him, doesn't have the media pressure, doesn't have the Origin dropping or inner club turmoil playing on his mind or anything like that, DCE does.
You guys really don't think that DCE comes next year and looks much better in our team? No media pressure, no toxicity, no Origin dropping, a team that 1-17 is probably better than Manly and a much better halves partner? I think all signs point to yes, he would do better. Worst case scenario if he plays as bad as he has this year he's still better than Hugo statistically anyway...
They have different roles in their respective sides. Sam is our Cherry Evans, Hugo plays a different role altogether. Hugo has half a season of first grade under his belt.
The only stat that matters - Manly have made the top 4 ONCE in the last 10 seasons.
Imagine if we went through 10 seasons with just one top 4 finish, what an absolutely disastrous period for the club that would be seen as. And you want to sign the 37 year old who has led his him team to that??
But I acknowledge you are beyond help on this matter
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