The Coming Federal Election.

[Paddo Colt 61]

If you actually believe the myth of human induced climate change, Australia's contribution is absolutely diddly squat anyway. Voting for any of the left wing parties (teals included) will only destroy our economy. It is looking very likely that the greens will hold the balance of power and that will be the end of our way of life as we know it.
They will eradicate Australia day, and Anzac day among others. Think about it.

Over the top BD. That is the media line that you're serving up. It's owned by the rich an d powerful. "Freedom of the Press" is bullshit thing which enables the big end of town to be powerful political players. I don't see anything on the manifesto that would ruin the country.

[Random Rooster]

If you actually believe the myth of human induced climate change, Australia's contribution is absolutely diddly squat anyway. Voting for any of the left wing parties (teals included) will only destroy our economy. It is looking very likely that the greens will hold the balance of power and that will be the end of our way of life as we know it.
They will eradicate Australia day, and Anzac day among others. Think about it.

Bloody hell a destroyed economy and the end of our way of life as we know it!!

That's really serious. Only Peter Dutton can save us!!

[ism22]

Bloody hell a destroyed economy and the end of our way of life as we know it!!

That's really serious. Only Peter Dutton can save us!!

Yep by ignoring climate change, throwing $5.2 trillion at nuclear power (though we don't have it as our economy is worth $500 billion a year and he doesn't believe in clean energy), re-hiring Mike Pezzulo (sacked for corruption) to head up Defence, using Jacinta price as Australia's 'DOGE' with a plan to sack 45,000 people, openly supporting Benny boy's genocide of arabs and bootlicking Donald Trump.

Zzzz...

Like a significant percentage of Australians, I've already voted and did not do so under some weird@rse false belief that Dutton's our saviour (and that Albo's team have somehow destroyed our country by focusing more on social policies, while getting inflation / interest rates under control after ScoMo failed to contain inflationary pressures during his term).

In response to Dutton's question about whether I've been better off since Abbott, Turnbull and ScoMo farked off... yes. I'm doing great thanks. Thoroughly happy with where Australia's at and am in no way interested in us bootlicking the Donald thank you.

[caz]

If you actually believe the myth of human induced climate change, Australia's contribution is absolutely diddly squat anyway. Voting for any of the left wing parties (teals included) will only destroy our economy. It is looking very likely that the greens will hold the balance of power and that will be the end of our way of life as we know it.
They will eradicate Australia day, and Anzac day among others. Think about it.

there's a lot to unpack there, dog.
i'm not a scientist but it seems like pretty much all scientists, the people who have spent their lives studying these things, agree that human induced climate change is real.
the world is transitioning away from carbon based energy so it's also an economic decision for us to get on board. no doubt the devil is in the detail, but saying that climate change isn't real doesn't sound right.
labor won't be a party to eradicate an australia day. there will always be an australia day. the date might change but so what? personally i'm ambivalent about changing the date, but if there's support for changing it then i'd be on board.
labor be a party to eradicate anzac day? do you really believe that? that's just nutty.

[Rooster1908]

Yep by ignoring climate change, throwing $5.2 trillion at nuclear power (though we don't have it as our economy is worth $500 billion a year and he doesn't believe in clean energy), re-hiring Mike Pezzulo (sacked for corruption) to head up Defence, using Jacinta price as Australia's 'DOGE' with a plan to sack 45,000 people, openly supporting Benny boy's genocide of arabs and bootlicking Donald Trump.

Zzzz...

Like a significant percentage of Australians, I've already voted and did not do so under some weird@rse false belief that Dutton's our saviour (and that Albo's team have somehow destroyed our country by focusing more on social policies, while getting inflation / interest rates under control after ScoMo failed to contain inflationary pressures during his term).

In response to Dutton's question about whether I've been better off since Abbott, Turnbull and ScoMo farked off... yes. I'm doing great thanks. Thoroughly happy with where Australia's at and am in no way interested in us bootlicking the Donald thank you.

5.2 trillion . Thats a fantasy even coming from you . Even Albo says its 600billion

[Mickie Lane]

So you would cheer for Jacinta Price?

Changing the date will do nothing to appease the perpetually outraged/offended. They would keep going until you have to hand over all your property to the stone age mob.

Ive never heard of her until you mentioned her, Im not into politics.
I hear the names Albo, Dutton & Clive Parmer but no one else, I had to look up the Greens leader Bandt.
I posted this before that in my time as an adult it hasnt mattered which political party is in power my life has remained good so for me who ever is the Prime Minister it doest matter.
Its not the political parties that make Australia the best country in the world its the people of Australia that make it the best.
1 more thing its laughable that you would think that all Australians would have to hand back over all that we own.

[Paddo Colt 61]

The latest UGov poll indicates that the majority of voters can't cop Dutts to the point where the primary vote for the Libs is 33.5%, the lowest ever. The 2pp vote is now 53.5 ALP to 46.5 Lib. Pollsters say that it's mostly because of the ogre "impression" that Dutts has managed to convey to people.

What interested me more was the male/female voting patterns.Almost 20% of women will vote Green compared to 9% of men.

That bullshit macho pose that the Murdoch media specialises in is attractive to the many male meatheads around who either don't see the constantly emerging confidence of women in our society or are, as with so much else, in denial. Females see implications but pathetic powerless blokes stick with the media fools having given no thought to anything much - if the truth be known Oz "men" are frightened, almost emasculated conformists, mostly too thick to reason an opinion. I often hear of couplings like a female Doctor/Engineer and a greenkeeper/t truck driver hubby.

Aus jock blokes, generally, are ignorant of most issues by choice. Unreasonably self obsessed but frightened and threatened by life they tend to huddle around the campfires of their oppressors, taking up the oppressors' Right wing self serving nonsense, too dumb to realise that doing so is abrogating their own economic self interests.The rationale seems to be, "Oh, I'm a dill am I? well fcuk youse I'm not!!". DUH!!!

[mightyrooster]

The latest UGov poll indicates that voters can't cop Dutts to the point where the primary vote for the Libs is 33.5%, the lowest ever. The 2pp vote is now 53.5 ALP to 46.5 Lib. Pollsters say that it's mostly because of the ogre "impression" that Dutts has managed to convey to people.

What interested me more was the male/female voting patterns.Almost 20% of women will vote Green compared to 9% of men.

That bullshit macho pose that the Murdoch media specialises in is attractive to the many male meatheads around who either don't see the constantly emerging confidence of women in our society or are, as with so much else, in denial. Females see implications but pathetic powerless blokes stick with the media fools having given no thought to anything much - if the truth be known Oz "men" are frightened, almost emasculated conformists, mostly too thick to reason an opinion. I often hear of couplings like a female Doctor/Engineer and a greenkeeper/t truck driver hubby.

Aus blokes, generally, are ignorant of most issues by choice. Frightened and threatened by life they tend to huddle around the campfires of their oppressors, taking up the oppressors' Right wing self serving nonsense. The rationale seems to be, "Oh, I'm a dill am I? well fcuk youse I'm not!!".

Lol, too late Paddo. You already had a dig at me yesterday for allegedly falling for the MSM / Murdoch propaganda machine. I posted some weeks back that I know many women who are anti Dutton and will vote ALP, Green or Teal.

[Random Rooster]

I don't suggest anything other than you and Randy (forget those others, they're beyond redemption) are examples of those who are essentially thinking people but who have succumed to media anti Green bias. No need to sweat it, it has been so intense for so long that it is almost a conventional wisdom. It's called The Illusory Truth Effect - if a lie is repeated often enough, it will become accepted as fact.

You comments (and Randy's) re The Greens indicate reluctance, even rejection, probably because the media lies compliment your financial interests and that is the reason for most of the ejection.

Paddo you're just wrong- you have taken it the wrong way. I have no bias towards the Greens either way. You have taken my comment about myself having no influence on my 2 sons voting Green and twisted it into something that it is not. The Greens support has increased because they have moved on from being a "party of protest" and have come up with strong policies- which is in my opinion attracting a lot of young voters support

I have also said in the past that Australia benefits from a strong conservative party with clear policies that challenges the opposition-which i still believe. I like balance in the political field, its healthy for democracy.

Look at the ludicrous situation in the US with the Republians tanking everything they touch yet the Democrats are so useless they can hardly make a dent in public opinion. Thats not healthy for democracy- its giving a autocrat a free run

[ism22]

Paddo you're just wrong- you have taken it the wrong way. I have no bias towards the Greens either way. You have taken my comment about myself having no influence on my 2 sons voting Green and twisted it into something that it is not. The Greens support has increased because they have moved on from being a "party of protest" and have come up with strong policies- which is in my opinion attracting a lot of young voters support

Agreed. They've become the party of 'legalise drugs and dole out free housing', which sounds great to 23 year olds crying out shyte like 'I have a master's degree in underwater basket weaving so shouldn't HAVE to live in an apartment!!! My wife and I are both HIGHLY educated and politically aware individuals!!!'

It sounds illogical but these people can then swing to the hard right when they 'grow up' and start saying 'the REAL reason why we're farked is because migrants are taking all the jobs!!! I was a fool to bathe their feet as they all stabbed me in the back and stole my jobs/housing opportunities!!! Ban em!!!'

IMO it's a story of 'the extremes'.

[ism22]

News flash: Peter Dutton announces a 'road use charge' (totally not a tax) for EV users a week out from the election.

Damn why did I vote early? That's totally gonna swing my vote

[mightyrooster]

Paddo you're just wrong- you have taken it the wrong way. I have no bias towards the Greens either way. You have taken my comment about myself having no influence on my 2 sons voting Green and twisted it into something that it is not. The Greens support has increased because they have moved on from being a "party of protest" and have come up with strong policies- which is in my opinion attracting a lot of young voters support

I have also said in the past that Australia benefits from a strong conservative party with clear policies that challenges the opposition-which i still believe. I like balance in the political field, its healthy for democracy.

Look at the ludicrous situation in the US with the Republians tanking everything they touch yet the Democrats are so useless they can hardly make a dent in public opinion. Thats not healthy for democracy- its giving a autocrat a free run

Paddo can be his own worst enemy at times, always looking for an argument or having a dig. There’s times when I’m actually agreeing with some of what he says and he then includes me in the people to have a big swat at. My two kids like the Greens because of the environmental stance plus the daughter admitted to me yesterday, because they are pledging free tertiary education. She also went on to say that she’s graduating this year so that’s not much use to her now. I’m not opposed to some of the Greens ideas but they ignore the economic management side of things. There’s a bit more to running an economy and government than just super taxing the rich. I think once the kids get older and have more responsibilities with money and bills and families they may see things differently. The realities of life may take priority over idealism.

[Mickie Lane]

No matter who wins the election life in Australia for me will remain good.
Australia is still the lucky country & Ive been lucky enough to be be born here & live my whole life here.
Im just so thankful.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Lol, too late Paddo. You already had a dig at me yesterday for allegedly falling for the MSM / Murdoch propaganda machine. I posted some weeks back that I know many women who are anti Dutton and will vote ALP, Green or Teal.

You did point that out MR. Interestingly the split of the NLP among male and female vote is about 50/50 and the same with One Nation. Possibly it represents that stratum of society where the male is still the boss and the female likes it that way.

It wasn't so much a dig as it was an illustration MR. Most of us are conditioned to live by the media and believe what it tells us. It is pretty much inescapable and the consensus in our media, which is owned by the rich and powerful, is a conservative one, the hacks' job being to align the public with their bosses' interests, business and philosophical. I'm not saying that you and Randy are dullardsbut I think that you, like the majority of folk, have been influenced in a negative way (perhaps unconsciously) re The Green movement.

When you talk about management credentials, those of the majors are nothing to celebrate. What you forget is that no party micromanages Government administration. That job is assigned to professional, trained bureaucrats who actually design the administration of government policy. The Bureaucracy is from where Australia is really ruled and we are good at it as we have 200+ years of public admin and of being a mixed economy. A Green Government would rely on our public service as the others also do.

[mightyrooster]

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-cuts-canberra

Yeah I’m a Canberran and ex public servant - who worked for a department considered vitally important by the Liberal Party. So I’m biased but why do we have to go the Canberra bashing route every time? It’s my home and public servants need to feed their families and pay bills too. And our cost of living is one of the highest in the country. There’s an example of long time media stereotyping of a city and its people.