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Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post
While your Robbo views are slightly more extreme than mine mate, it appears we are in the the wrong for saying that Robbo is anything but perfect and the most amazing man/coach in history...
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Originally posted by Rooster36 View Post
3 roosters“Soon will the present day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead”- (Baha’u’llah)
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Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post
I'm in the middle on this. Pretty harsh to call him average and give him little to no credit for our success. I think he is better off the pitch than he is with anything his sides produce on it. Average is tough due to the huge amount of truly woeful or average coaches that have been around the league in the past decade or so. He has a very unique mentality different to other NRL coaches and has improved our culture out of sight. I dont think you can argue that he hasn't improved our culture. It was a rabble for a while there. We seem more like a special club than we did 10-15 years ago.
Now, with the on field stuff i think your argument has more merit. Before 2018, Robbo's coaching in big games was highly suspect. Some absolutely honking botches in finals series where we really shouldve won or at least made a GF. I attribute our comp wins in 18-19 more to the group of players you previously mentioned than I do Robbo.
But this aura he has on here and the blasphemy if you dare question him is a bit much. The bloke has spent far too much time reading self help books and watching Diary of a CEO than he has reading footy play books and ironically "going back to basics". I think he has a big ego and is very stubborn, sometimes at the detriment to the team. Persisting with types of play that are not conducive to the current rule set or the type of players we have that have cost us in the long run. Dont get me started on this "Roosters footy" rubbish. Its corporate speak in the guise of "club pride/loyalty".
He shouldn't be Teflon. We have an amazing squad. Its better than every other squad on paper barring the Riff, who 3 years ago weren't anywhere near our level. He must evolve and he should face criticism for sure. He has had great sqhads in the past and won. I think whilst 3 comps in 10 years is amazing, there were missed opportunities to win more that say Bellamy probably wouldve taken. The only time ive been truly impressed by Robbo's coaching was the 2021 season where we narrowly missed out on Top 4 with virtually a reserve grade side when every other side wouldve fell out of the 8. People on here shouldn't shoot you down as quickly as they have.
My main issue with Robbo is that we havent adjusted as well to the new game of Rugby League post 2019, as have some other coaches/teams.
The less physical encounters and penalising intimidation through force has hurt us more than any other club. It was our point of difference and made us who we were across Robbos 3 premierships. It has brought us right back to the field. Throw in bad luck with injuries and weve been toast.
We need a plan B.
He is undoubtedly the most intelligent brain Ive seen in the game. Does that mean always the top dog as Coach? No.
What he has done for the club in terms of culture and professionalism has been incredible though. Even if he never won a comp, we owe him that hugetime.
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Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
Great post Hunch pretty much with ya. And the Kid has a point too.
My main issue with Robbo is that we havent adjusted as well to the new game of Rugby League post 2019, as have some other coaches/teams.
The less physical encounters and penalising intimidation through force has hurt us more than any other club. It was our point of difference and made us who we were across Robbos 3 premierships. It has brought us right back to the field. Throw in bad luck with injuries and weve been toast.
We need a plan B.
He is undoubtedly the most intelligent brain Ive seen in the game. Does that mean always the top dog as Coach? No.
What he has done for the club in terms of culture and professionalism has been incredible though. Even if he never won a comp, we owe him that hugetime.
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Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post
Agree with all this but we must move forward and not accept that past glories, trophies are all that matter. We have been flogged far to often since 2019 . Our D and attack is not acceptable for the Roosters and anyone who says thats not on Robbo is a fool. Hes the top dog when it come to the team and for that reason must find a way to adapt to the new game as others have . I love and appreciate Robbo as much as anyone but Im sure even he must be disappointed in some of the decisions he has made . Even if he won't admit it
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Originally posted by Mickie Lane View PostSack Robbo I say.
Its laughable to say Robbo is an average coach but if NorfolkStreetkid says Robbo is an average coach then it must be true.
Its one of the most dumbest things Ive ever read on here that Robbo is an average coach. He is the best coach the Roosters have ever had & anyone who thinks that you don't need top players to win comps has no idea.
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Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
Great post Hunch pretty much with ya. And the Kid has a point too.
My main issue with Robbo is that we havent adjusted as well to the new game of Rugby League post 2019, as have some other coaches/teams.
The less physical encounters and penalising intimidation through force has hurt us more than any other club. It was our point of difference and made us who we were across Robbos 3 premierships. It has brought us right back to the field. Throw in bad luck with injuries and weve been toast.
We need a plan B.
He is undoubtedly the most intelligent brain Ive seen in the game. Does that mean always the top dog as Coach? No.
What he has done for the club in terms of culture and professionalism has been incredible though. Even if he never won a comp, we owe him that hugetime.
Not saying anything silly ATM but it's been 3yrs without a deep finals run & some of the things that have been happening since 18/19 are disappointing. If we stay injury free & still can't make a prelim final then serious questions need to be asked.
He lost me a bit in the lead up to the Manly jersey fiasco last year where he stuck his gob in when it wasn't his problem. Other coaches worried about their own team.
Also how is it possible we are bottom or close to every year with errors. It's become the norm now.
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Originally posted by Rooster36 View Post
no by all means criticise him… but! he has called a bloke who has one 3 premierships 3 minor premierships a nines 3 world club challenges an average coach … sorry as I type this it ridiculous.. I totallly agree he and the team need to shape up this year but fair dinkum you’re heading in to micky lane territory here of taking the contrarian opinion .. go support the vermin
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Originally posted by NorfolkStreetKid View Post
The stats mean nothing..... I am saying that with the players Robbo has had, the results he has achieved are not great.... they are just about what an average coach would have achieved with the same cattle.
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Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
Great post Hunch pretty much with ya. And the Kid has a point too.
My main issue with Robbo is that we havent adjusted as well to the new game of Rugby League post 2019, as have some other coaches/teams.
The less physical encounters and penalising intimidation through force has hurt us more than any other club. It was our point of difference and made us who we were across Robbos 3 premierships. It has brought us right back to the field. Throw in bad luck with injuries and weve been toast.
We need a plan B.
He is undoubtedly the most intelligent brain Ive seen in the game. Does that mean always the top dog as Coach? No.
What he has done for the club in terms of culture and professionalism has been incredible though. Even if he never won a comp, we owe him that hugetime.
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Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post
While your Robbo views are slightly more extreme than mine mate, it appears we are in the the wrong for saying that Robbo is anything but perfect and the most amazing man/coach in history...
Robinson is not immune to criticism, no one is. But let’s be real no one’s arguing Norfolk’s point because they think Robinson is perfect, it’s because he called him average. Like middle of the pack, not good or bad just mid. Just think about it for a second. Average.
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