When will these blokes choose Pepsi

[Bondicigar]

The thing is regardless of whether you think its okay or whether others are doing it they are professional athletes who sign contracts saying they wont. There are people who put a lot of money into the game who will not be happy which in turn hurts the players doing the right thing. I just think its time NRL athletes started behaving like professional sports people. The whole "they are young why cant they party" crap doesn't cut it. If you don't like what you signed up for do something else.

Become a professional truck driver

[Batemans Bay Rooster]

The thing is regardless of whether you think its okay or whether others are doing it they are professional athletes who sign contracts saying they wont. There are people who put a lot of money into the game who will not be happy which in turn hurts the players doing the right thing. I just think its time NRL athletes started behaving like professional sports people. The whole "they are young why cant they party" crap doesn't cut it. If you don't like what you signed up for do something else.

Fair point. I wonder though if these types of things do really hurt the game and upset sponsors anymore like they once would have. In some sort of way you could even argue that these incidents keep the sport in the media esp in the off season and you know the fans need something to talk about. The whole thing will be forgotten in a week just like all the others before this one.

[Rooster_6]

Don't take it so personally.
I never mentioned care factor.
Your post suggested they should do whatever they want and not get punished if caught doing something which is illegal no matter how many players are doing it.
It is a matter of condoning it or not.
I don't condone it because a lot of kids look up to players like Cheese so if found guilty I don't care what he cops. You make your own bed.

This role model shit is a load of crap. No one is going to go out and start doing coke because they saw Brandon Smith doing it.

Drug addicts are usually lead down that path due to poverty, parenting, peers or aggressive behaviour. Not because Brandon Smith was seen on tiktok having a bit of fun before the Dally M's.

And then causal drug users who can demonstrate control are often just experimenting or out for a good time.

Simply just condoning everything doesn't work either, kids don't respond to just being told good and bad, there needs to be education on the topic so they can make educated decisions for themselves.

I do agree though if the club decides to punish him then he's made his own bed. As a professional sports person he knows the risks of doing drugs and social media and he chose to put himself in that situation so he will have to face the music.

But why the general public cares, I don't get it. He's not hurting anyone else.

[BUDDY]

“The kids” lol no matter how much parents want everyone else to raise their kids the footballers aren’t role models.

Not sure if you have kids or are involved in kids sports.

Go out on a weekend when this lockdown is over and watch a game of kids rugby league or a cricket game or a soccer game. Even just listen to kids playing in the park as you go for your walk.

Tell me if you ever hear one call themselves Teddy or The Big Show or even Sam Kerr. Hopefully their parents are their role models but kids will always try to mimic their sporting heroes and that includes teenagers. Must be ok to snort a line if Cheese does it (allegedly).

That's why sponsors also want clean skins. Imagine Mr Steggles if it was Teddy or JWH or Walker caught with a bag of cocaine in their pocket. I know I would be gutted. But hey that is fine because everybody is doing it. Didn't we nearly lose Steggles a few years back because of one of our players doing the wrong thing?

[Rooster_6]

Not sure if you have kids or are involved in kids sports.

Go out on a weekend when this lockdown is over and watch a game of kids rugby league or a cricket game or a soccer game. Even just listen to kids playing in the park as you go for your walk.

Tell me if you ever hear one call themselves Teddy or The Big Show or even Sam Kerr. Hopefully their parents are their role models but kids will always try to mimic their sporting heroes and that includes teenagers. Must be ok to snort a line if Cheese does it (allegedly).

That's why sponsors also want clean skins. Imagine Mr Steggles if it was Teddy or JWH or Walker caught with a bag of cocaine in their pocket. I know I would be gutted. But hey that is fine because everybody is doing it. Didn't we nearly lose Steggles a few years back because of one of our players doing the wrong thing?

Yeh for sure next year instead of trying to run like Teddy, leap like Toops, hit like Radley or step like Manu they're going to be in the bathrooms snorting like Cheese.

lol.

See it all the time.

[BUDDY]

Yeh for sure next year instead of trying to run like Teddy, leap like Toops, hit like Radley or step like Manu they're going to be in the bathrooms snorting like Cheese.

lol.

See it all the time.

You obviously don't get the point and that is fine. You tend to do that when someone is against your argument.

I have seen what drugs can do to a young person so have self interest.

But being in possession of cocaine or using it is illegal as far as I know no matter how many people are doing it.

And I think you are over reading the care factor of the public. I doubt anyone cares what he does with his life. But fair to comment that what he was possibly doing is not legal and should be punished now that he got caught.

[Steakface]

coke is probably the least harmful recreational drug around. I have no issue with it except for the f wit filmed and leaked the video

Not really.

Its very addictive, and the effects on the heart and cardiovascular system from prolonged user are pretty dire.

The least harmful recreational drug is without a doubt marijuana.

[King Salvo]

People forget that organised crime syndicates are the one's importing/ exporting and trading in these illicit and illegal drugs - they are not the folk you would want to know or come across.

These players by association with drug sellers/dealers are linking themselves to organised crime syndicates so they should face the music.

Easiest thing is to think what would this look like if it became public in deciding to do something or not - if your worried about it appearing in the public domain then don't do it.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

Not really.

Its very addictive, and the effects on the heart and cardiovascular system from prolonged user are pretty dire.

The least harmful recreational drug is without a doubt marijuana.

We prefer to call it Cannabis

[SamKerrSimp]

Not sure if you have kids or are involved in kids sports.

Go out on a weekend when this lockdown is over and watch a game of kids rugby league or a cricket game or a soccer game. Even just listen to kids playing in the park as you go for your walk.

Tell me if you ever hear one call themselves Teddy or The Big Show or even Sam Kerr. Hopefully their parents are their role models but kids will always try to mimic their sporting heroes and that includes teenagers. Must be ok to snort a line if Cheese does it (allegedly).

That's why sponsors also want clean skins. Imagine Mr Steggles if it was Teddy or JWH or Walker caught with a bag of cocaine in their pocket. I know I would be gutted. But hey that is fine because everybody is doing it. Didn't we nearly lose Steggles a few years back because of one of our players doing the wrong thing?

Just because they are on the TV doesn't make them role models no matter how much you want some dopey footballers to be the inspiration for your kids instead of yourself. Most of the kids out there in the playground are mimicking the behaviour of their parents or lack thereof anyway but that's the elephant in the room in these discussions.

Charles Barkley said it best: "I am not a role model" they play football, that's it, they aren't there in society to be a role model for your kids or be an inspiration for your kids that's your job.

You're also kidding if you think sponsors are going to walk away from the Melbourne Storm in droves over this they are one of the hottest sporting teams in the country and even if sponsors walk they'll have new ones the day after, sponsors use this as an excuse to walk away from shit teams hence they "didn't we nearly lose steggles?" I don't remember if we did or not but last time I checked they are still here because we are one of the hottest attractions in the country and having steggles on a Roosters jersey does more positive than SKD carrying a bag of coke does harm.

[Rooster_6]

People forget that organised crime syndicates are the one's importing/ exporting and trading in these illicit and illegal drugs - they are not the folk you would want to know or come across.

These players by association with drug sellers/dealers are linking themselves to organised crime syndicates so they should face the music.

Easiest thing is to think what would this look like if it became public in deciding to do something or not - if your worried about it appearing in the public domain then don't do it.

Buying drugs does not link you to crime sydnicates any more than buying petrol links you to the oil industry or buying prescription drugs links you to the pharmaceutical industry.

Come on..

[Rooster_6]

You obviously don't get the point and that is fine. You tend to do that when someone is against your argument.

I have seen what drugs can do to a young person so have self interest.

But being in possession of cocaine or using it is illegal as far as I know no matter how many people are doing it.

And I think you are over reading the care factor of the public. I doubt anyone cares what he does with his life. But fair to comment that what he was possibly doing is not legal and should be punished now that he got caught.

No I get your point hence why I've offered up counter points. I just don't agree with your point of view and that's fine we don't have to agree, would be a boring forum if we all did.

I think you're downplaying just how much the general public care about this and overplaying the influence on kids. The reacrion and action are not proportionate to one another. This thread starter called for the banning of one third of the competition...

[milanja]

Buying drugs does not link you to crime sydnicates any more than buying petrol links you to the oil industry or buying prescription drugs links you to the pharmaceutical industry.

Come on..

Is petrol now illegal?? Actually probably will be soon enough.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

Buying drugs does not link you to crime sydnicates any more than buying petrol links you to the oil industry or buying prescription drugs links you to the pharmaceutical industry.

Come on..

A lot more people are taking notice of how things like porn, drugs or even their mobile may involve someone who has been trafficked or even slave labor for minerals in the phones.

[King Salvo]

Buying drugs does not link you to crime sydnicates any more than buying petrol links you to the oil industry or buying prescription drugs links you to the pharmaceutical industry.

Come on..

If people didn't buy drugs though there would be no drug cartels or crime syndicates involved in the drug trade- same as if all people switched to solar/electric cars/trucks/MB's there would be no oil industry - one can't exist without the other.

No matter what though when people are buying drugs from dealers the source of the drugs can be traced back to drug cartels and crime syndicates via the supply and distribution chain.