When will these blokes choose Pepsi

[roostersrule2]

Petrol is not an illegal party drug though it is a substance that is commonly abused as is things like aerosol which again is not a illegal substance. . Alcohol used in moderation is not a issue for those that can handle it but for those who cant then yes its a major problem but again it is a legal substance for those over 18 and the soon to be double vaccinated but we were talking about illegal substances and not the storm players alcohol use . And the dude that is slinging green doesn't care about the damage that his green is doing to families and kids all over the world. I don't actually give much money at all to the huge money industry and most definitely none to the dude slinging the green. And im guessing that makes me just boring or miss informed by your standards . Ill keep it clean and green . You know in the garden .
Ps can you explain the misinformed part as you are the expert as from my experience the green as you call it does cause massive mental health issues to those who are susceptible as I stated .

Alcohol is no different to any other drug in that moderation is the key. You’re clearly having issues separating morality from legality which is why alcohol is far more palatable then anything else for you. The reason I brought it up is you have no problem with it yet the illegal drugs you do. Marijuana is illegal if you’re going to tell me it’s more dangerous then alcohol well then I’m not sure if you’re boring or not but you’re definitely misinformed.

Also lol sniffing petrol is 100% illegal, and if you are caught sniffing petrol rather then using it for your car you don’t think it’d be confiscated? Similar to prescription drugs in that they’re legal if you have a prescription for them, not so when you don’t.

[Rooster1908]

Alcohol is no different to any other drug in that moderation is the key. You’re clearly having issues separating morality from legality which is why alcohol is far more palatable then anything else for you. The reason I brought it up is you have no problem with it yet the illegal drugs you do. Marijuana is illegal if you’re going to tell me it’s more dangerous then alcohol well then I’m not sure if you’re boring or not but you’re definitely misinformed.

Also lol sniffing petrol is 100% illegal, and if you are caught sniffing petrol rather then using it for your car you don’t think it’d be confiscated? Similar to prescription drugs in that they’re legal if you have a prescription for them, not so when you don’t.

If you like to re read I didn't say sniffing petrol was legal , I said petrol isn't illegal..And yes moderation is the key to all legal substances .Abstenace would be the key to all illegal substances.Guess that makes me boring .Also not misinformed when you talk about the effects of weed , drugs on people with mental health issues as I have seen it at close quarters with my own eyes .Have also witnessed achohol addition from one of my parents if we are to be truthful and as a witness bro both I can inform you without hesitation that although they are both bad , drugs destroys the family from the inside and the out .Now if you have no actual logical information bon why drugs are good please unless you have lived and suffered then talk sense

[Batemans Bay Rooster]

Regardless of whether people think drugs are bad, despite the fact that drugs are illegal, and despite those thinking it's terrible that footballers betray the responsibilities of their contracts by doing drugs, etc etc etc, one thing is for sure - people are going to continue to do drugs. Lots of people. If you accept that, then we might as well make some money out of it rather than throw trillions down the gurgler trying to stop it. There are so many benefits of having drugs controlled and effectively distributed by the government. Put your ideological stance aside for a minute and consider the benefits.

[Rooster1908]

Regardless of whether people think drugs are bad, despite the fact that drugs are illegal, and despite those thinking it's terrible that footballers betray the responsibilities of their contracts by doing drugs, etc etc etc, one thing is for sure - people are going to continue to do drugs. Lots of people. If you accept that, then we might as well make some money out of it rather than throw trillions down the gurgler trying to stop it. There are so many benefits of having drugs controlled and effectively distributed by the government. Put your ideological stance aside for a minute and consider the benefits.

Yes there would be many different things that would come of this .One to mention could be the extra burden on the medical establishment b, mental and physical that would come if this.But it's all good that the money will be there to pay for it .Benifits I'm struggling to think of any that would be morally acceptable for just giving up and say let's make money

[Batemans Bay Rooster]

Yes there would be many different things that would come of this .One to mention could be the extra burden on the medical establishment b, mental and physical that would come if this.But it's all good that the money will be there to pay for it .Benifits I'm struggling to think of any that would be morally acceptable for just giving up and say let's make money

Morally acceptable?
How much extra $$ do you think there would be to fund the "medical establishment?" if the govt sold the drugs?
Is more money for the treatment for addicts morally acceptable to you? Or is it just their own fault and they should have just said no?
All those police resources that could be diverted to other areas in the community.
All the extra tax revenue that could be used to fund things like public housing.
Elimination of large sector of organized crime. The greatest proponents for continuing the ongoing war on drugs madness are the drug criminals themselves.

[Rooster1908]

Morally acceptable?
How much extra $$ do you think there would be to fund the "medical establishment?" if the govt sold the drugs?
Is more money for the treatment for addicts morally acceptable to you? Or is it just their own fault and they should have just said no?
All those police resources that could be diverted to other areas in the community.
All the extra tax revenue that could be used to fund things like public housing.
Elimination of large sector of organized crime. The greatest proponents for continuing the ongoing war on drugs madness are the drug criminals themselves.

No it's not acceptable to me , right and wrong .There's no inbetween for me .Sorry if that's an inconvenience .But a moral society won't accept that doing the wrong thing to get some sort of benefits is acceptable.As I said in another post , both drugs and alcohol have effected my life and no way would I believe that selling it to treat it is a smart thing .And yes simply saying no is the right thing , unfortunately some can't . Can you honestly say that you would like your medical system funded from taxes of drugs .Maybe that's acceptable bro you but not me and I suspect not most

[ism22]

Alcohol is no different to any other drug in that moderation is the key. You’re clearly having issues separating morality from legality which is why alcohol is far more palatable then anything else for you. The reason I brought it up is you have no problem with it yet the illegal drugs you do. Marijuana is illegal if you’re going to tell me it’s more dangerous then alcohol well then I’m not sure if you’re boring or not but you’re definitely misinformed.

My perspective is...
- I don't want anything to do with drug dealers. I think that once you're going out of your way to discover them and try lotsa different banned substances, a habit has formed. To me there's a big gap between sipping a beer at the dinner table and experimenting with illegal stuff purely to experience a different sort of high. Thrill seeking and socialising with dealers is very different from having a beer.

- From a risk management perspective, we know the long-term effects of alcohol and tobacco since they've been used so widely. Illegal drugs come with unquantifiable risks (physical, mental and social) which is dangerous in itself. For example most people who have been scheduled into mental health facilities have a history of abusing various illegal substances (sometimes it takes just one bong aged 15 to trigger lifelong psychotic illnesses). Maybe it's just 'them' and not 'you' but as somebody who has had a pretty farked up life already, I'm not willing to risk any illegal shyte with unknown consequences.

- Above all, dealing with crooks and actively breaking the law says a lot about one's character. Whether or not you agree with a law is largely irrelevant. I mean... it's illegal to possess pornographic cartoons that depict Bart having sex with Lisa... this is strictly speaking incest and child abuse material. I dare say a few of us may have stumbled upon such photos online while browsing through comedy sites (and nobody would consider such people paedophiles, or accessories to crime on the basis that they didn't immediately call the police). However, I don't think this makes consumption of such materials okay. If you're actively asking dealers for more images of this nature and collecting them on your computer then you're developing an illegal habit that says something about your character. May mot mean your the AFP's most wanted paedophile. But... it's a disregard for the law all the same, and a slight deviation from '1 or 2 funny pictures' (e.g. trying to bring home some child abuse materials from a Japanese comic store) is actually a pretty darn serious crime. With crimes, the boundaries ALWAYS have to sit somewhere and there will ALWAYS be people arguing that something sitting 2mm over the line isn't a 'real crime'. However, why test it? Why actively network with people who are pushing the boundaries to the next level and seek advice from them on how you might emulate some of their experiences? IMO deliberately (and regularly) testing the line, with a blatant disregard for the fact that it exists says something about CHARACTER. If we're talking about footy players who we're considering throwing big money at then I think their CHARACTER (not the little individual mistakes they've made) is what counts.

[Rooster1908]

My perspective is...
- Above all, I don't want anything to do with drug dealers. I think that once you're going out of your way to discover them and try lotsa different banned substances, a habit has formed. To me there's a big gap between sipping a beer at the dinner table and experimenting with illegal stuff purely to experience a different sort of high. Thrill seeking and socialising with dealers is very different from having a beer.

- From a risk management perspective, we know the long-term effects of alcohol and tobacco since they've been used so widely. Illegal drugs come with unquantifiable risks (physical, mental and social) which is dangerous in itself. For example most people who have been scheduled into mental health facilities have a history of abusing various illegal substances (sometimes it takes just one bong aged 15 to trigger lifelong psychotic illnesses). Maybe it's just 'them' and not 'you' but as somebody who has had a pretty farked up life already, I'm not willing to risk any illegal shyte with unknown consequences.

- Above all, dealing with crooks and actively breaking the law says a lot about one's character. Whether or not you agree with a law is largely irrelevant. I mean... it's illegal to possess pornographic cartoons that depict Bart having sex with Lisa... this is strictly speaking incest and child abuse material. I dare say a few of us may have stumbled upon such photos online while browsing through comedy sites (and nobody would consider such people paedophiles, or accessories to crime on the basis that they didn't immediately call the police). However, I don't think this makes consumption of such materials okay. If you're actively asking dealers for more images of this nature and collecting them on your computer then you're developing an illegal habit that says something about your character. May mot mean your the AFP's most wanted paedophile. But... it's a disregard for the law all the same, and a slight deviation from '1 or 2 funny pictures' (e.g. trying to bring home some child abuse materials from a Japanese comic store) is actually a pretty darn serious crime. With crimes, the boundaries ALWAYS have to sit somewhere and there will ALWAYS be people arguing that something sitting 2mm over the line isn't a 'real crime'. However, why test it? Why actively network with people who are pushing the boundaries to the next level and seek advice from them on how you might emulate some of their experiences? IMO deliberately (and regularly) testing the line, with a blatant disregard for the fact that it exists says something about CHARACTER. If we're talking about footy players who we're considering throwing big money at then I think their CHARACTER (not the little individual mistakes they've made) is what counts.

Makes a lot of sense .And for me being an older version von this site I and many I presume have watch as society continues to move the line further .Accepting what wasn't accepted only a decade prior .Drugs have always been there but the facts are the weed they smoke today shows no similarities to the dope from the past .Some are suggesting the government regulate and sell the drugs for tax profits .Which ones do we draw the line at today .Is ice acceptable today or do we simply wait another decade and move the line a fraction more .

[SamKerrSimp]

The charges of CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking were revived in 1996, when a newspaper series by reporter Gary Webb in the San Hose Mercury News claimed that the trafficking had played an important role in the creation of the crack cocaine drug problem in the United States. Webb's series led to three federal investigations, all of which concluded there was no evidence of conspiracy by the CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the United States.

Farkin hell you're getting information from Wikipedia now lol you need a history lesson on the CIA, drug supply and Latin America

[SamKerrSimp]

If you like to re read I didn't say sniffing petrol was legal , I said petrol isn't illegal..And yes moderation is the key to all legal substances .Abstenace would be the key to all illegal substances.Guess that makes me boring .Also not misinformed when you talk about the effects of weed , drugs on people with mental health issues as I have seen it at close quarters with my own eyes .Have also witnessed achohol addition from one of my parents if we are to be truthful and as a witness bro both I can inform you without hesitation that although they are both bad , drugs destroys the family from the inside and the out .Now if you have no actual logical information bon why drugs are good please unless you have lived and suffered then talk sense

Not only does it make you boring but it makes you incredibly naive; just because something is legal doesn't mean it isn't as bad or worse than what is illegal and you should read up on the zombies in society who are doped up on benzos and opiods they get from their trust totally-not-backed-by-their-pharamceutical-mates GPs and the scary part is most players are pumped full of this shit too

[Mickie Lane]

Its a very difficult decision to make by a Government whether or not to regulate & decriminalise drugs. I used to think that legalising all drugs would be the way to go but Im not so sure of that these days & thats mainly because of Ice & maybe my age. Constant use of drugs & alcohol in my opinion is not good, it definitely impacts your life you wont reach your true potential. If you have a spliff or a snort of a white powder on an occasion, maybe but if its a daily use of any illicit drug your not right.
All of the drugs that are used on the street are used in hospital settings as well. There are many legal drugs that harm like Methadone, it would be up there as one of the worst drugs ever, its legal & it farks people lives.
Amsterdam seems to function ok & it allows drug use, I think Greece does too.

[Mickie Lane]

Morally acceptable?
How much extra $$ do you think there would be to fund the "medical establishment?" if the govt sold the drugs?
Is more money for the treatment for addicts morally acceptable to you? Or is it just their own fault and they should have just said no?
All those police resources that could be diverted to other areas in the community.
All the extra tax revenue that could be used to fund things like public housing.
Elimination of large sector of organized crime. The greatest proponents for continuing the ongoing war on drugs madness are the drug criminals themselves.

You make very good points.
At different times in my life I have wondered why Governments dont control all the drugs & profit from it & the only reason I can think of why they dont is because people at the top make money from the way it is rather than letting Governments make the money. I dont have any facts but I would think the cartels & crooked Politicians, High ranking Military people, high ranking Federal Police control things & profit from it. They dont see the drugs themselves but they know about it & organise for it to be brought into Australia.

[Rooster1908]

Not only does it make you boring but it makes you incredibly naive; just because something is legal doesn't mean it isn't as bad or worse than what is illegal and you should read up on the zombies in society who are doped up on benzos and opiods they get from their trust totally-not-backed-by-their-pharamceutical-mates GPs and the scary part is most players are pumped full of this shit too

Really MOST players , think that's a furphy

[Team Evil]

Eight-week suspension, $75,000 fine - plus $50,000 suspended - and stripped of co-captaincy for video simulating lewd act with a dog.

WOW, I remember being outraged but far out, it also completely derailed our season.
Its looking like they are going to get a slap on the wrist.

[Johnny Brass]

You make very good points.
At different times in my life I have wondered why Governments dont control all the drugs & profit from it & the only reason I can think of why they dont is because people at the top make money from the way it is rather than letting Governments make the money. I dont have any facts but I would think the cartels & crooked Politicians, High ranking Military people, high ranking Federal Police control things & profit from it. They dont see the drugs themselves but they know about it & organise for it to be brought into Australia.

Look how all the precursors for ice comes from China and it's made in Myanmar with the military backing then syphoned by the hill tribes into Thailand and distributed throughout the world, there's definitely government involvement.