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  • #46
    Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post

    Comon yourself . Drugs are illegal petrol isn't . Dumb comparison .Buying drugs links you to crime by supporting the people that sell it. Not to much of a jump to conclude that drug dealers and a lot of users commit other crimes
    I like some others have witnessed first hand what drug do to individuals and families . Coke is additive and weed / cannabis does as much damage to someone who is susceptible to mental health than most other drug.
    One small irony in this is that petrol can literally be an illegal drug lol

    Tbh your whole argument (bar the ill informed last part) points more towards legalising drugs then anything else lol, hell if addiction and mental health damage are your prerequisites for danger then what’s your opinion on alcohol? Is it the legality that makes it a more morally viable option? Or do you feel more comfortable giving money to a huge money industry rather then the dude who slings green to earn a some tax free bacon?




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    • #47
      Originally posted by roostersrule2 View Post
      One small irony in this is that petrol can literally be an illegal drug lol

      Tbh your whole argument (bar the ill informed last part) points more towards legalising drugs then anything else lol, hell if addiction and mental health damage are your prerequisites for danger then what’s your opinion on alcohol? Is it the legality that makes it a more morally viable option? Or do you feel more comfortable giving money to a huge money industry rather then the dude who slings green to earn a some tax free bacon?



      Petrol is not an illegal party drug though it is a substance that is commonly abused as is things like aerosol which again is not a illegal substance. . Alcohol used in moderation is not a issue for those that can handle it but for those who cant then yes its a major problem but again it is a legal substance for those over 18 and the soon to be double vaccinated but we were talking about illegal substances and not the storm players alcohol use . And the dude that is slinging green doesn't care about the damage that his green is doing to families and kids all over the world. I don't actually give much money at all to the huge money industry and most definitely none to the dude slinging the green. And im guessing that makes me just boring or miss informed by your standards . Ill keep it clean and green . You know in the garden .
      Ps can you explain the misinformed part as you are the expert as from my experience the green as you call it does cause massive mental health issues to those who are susceptible as I stated .
      Last edited by Rooster1908; 09-28-2021, 11:19 PM.

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      • #48
        Might explain why Munster does some weird shit on the field, like kneeing Maun in the head in the 2018 GF, and more foul play since.
        Then again, a few of his decisions in the Prelim against the Riff raised my eyebrows as well.
        You have got to be nuts taking this shit - of course its going to impair your mental faculties - and as a footballer you are supposed to be an elite athlete.
        The stuff has widespread use - I heard from a Saints supporter that the Dragons did not re-sign a very quick fullback this year, because of substance abuse.

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        • #49
          The main issue I have with coke, is that people on it are massive punishes. So boring.
          Making Steve Naughton look like Vince Mellars...

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          • #50
            Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

            If people didn't buy drugs though there would be no drug cartels or crime syndicates involved in the drug trade- same as if all people switched to solar/electric cars/trucks/MB's there would be no oil industry - one can't exist without the other.

            No matter what though when people are buying drugs from dealers the source of the drugs can be traced back to drug cartels and crime syndicates via the supply and distribution chain.
            The biggest drug cartel in the world is the CIA how naive are you?

            people have been getting high for thousands of years, the only reason cocaine is illegal is because it makes it easier to put minority people in to for profit prisons and it takes away from big pharma subscriptions. Remember: cocaine = bad but Xanax = good all because of where its made.

            It’s funny how all these fans get all up in arms over a few lines but have no problem with all the injections and pain killers the players are on which are more addictive than coke and do just as much damage health wise.
            Last edited by SamKerrSimp; 09-29-2021, 06:13 AM.

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            • #51
              The real point is
              Drugs are illegal
              Players sign a contract that they will not bring the game into disrepute.
              They earn a lot of money and are risking all that for what they call a bit of harmless fun .
              So if you want to do something illegal and there are consequences that follow don't whinge .
              I f you need drugs or alcohol to make sure you have a great time then you are obviously doing it wrong .

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              • #52
                "Beers beers, beers" is legal.
                It takes 72 hours for a player to recover fully and be able to train and play at full skill and energy levels after a drinking session.
                One or two beers, not so much.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post

                  The biggest drug cartel in the world is the CIA how naive are you?

                  people have been getting high for thousands of years, the only reason cocaine is illegal is because it makes it easier to put minority people in to for profit prisons and it takes away from big pharma subscriptions. Remember: cocaine = bad but Xanax = good all because of where its made.

                  It’s funny how all these fans get all up in arms over a few lines but have no problem with all the injections and pain killers the players are on which are more addictive than coke and do just as much damage health wise.
                  The charges of CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking were revived in 1996, when a newspaper series by reporter Gary Webb in the San Hose Mercury News claimed that the trafficking had played an important role in the creation of the crack cocaine drug problem in the United States. Webb's series led to three federal investigations, all of which concluded there was no evidence of conspiracy by the CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the United States.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

                    That's a very different argument to the one you first put up though. None of that means someone who uses or buys drugs is linked to a crime syndicate.

                    For example I'm not linked to Coles because I bought some milk there today but it's also good to be socially aware that my choice to buy milk from Coles has a detrimental impact on farmers and may not be the most ethical.

                    The moral argument about who and where you buy from is a very different argument to whether someone's "linked" to another organisation or person because they bought something from them. Most drug supplies are a monopoly right, there's no power in choice other than the choice not to buy?
                    Coles is a retailer though and sell products from a range of suppliers that supply these to Coles.

                    If buying drugs there is a link to drug syndicates as the seller/dealer is an employee for want of a better word of these syndicates via their associates in relevant countries who are answerable to these syndicates - they don't get anyone to be a seller/dealer of drugs or an importer and distributor of drugs - they all have a connection back to the drug syndicates one way or another
                    Last edited by King Salvo; 09-29-2021, 12:06 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post

                      The biggest drug cartel in the world is the CIA how naive are you?

                      people have been getting high for thousands of years, the only reason cocaine is illegal is because it makes it easier to put minority people in to for profit prisons and it takes away from big pharma subscriptions. Remember: cocaine = bad but Xanax = good all because of where its made.

                      It’s funny how all these fans get all up in arms over a few lines but have no problem with all the injections and pain killers the players are on which are more addictive than coke and do just as much damage health wise.
                      I suggest reading Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky.

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                      • #56
                        They will be getting (according to NRL360) fines and a 2 week suspension for next year. One or two of the fines is pretty big, but still light compared to what happened to Mitchell Pearce and someone the media has forgotten about, SKD, who was sacked by the Roosters for buying some. For all the posturing of 'culture' that comes from the Storm, they certainly don't look like they're coming anywhere near the Roosters' standards. even though they've been found to have brought the game into disrepute, didn't co-operate with the NRL investigation and embarrassed their club and coach on Dally M night. Bellamy had to stand there and field questions about it after winning the Coach of the Year award.
                        Last edited by ccfc bondi; 09-29-2021, 06:15 PM.

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                        • #57
                          hahahah laughing at the 60's and 70's when every one was scoffing down Bex and Vincents that had pain killers speed cociane and a few other ingrediants my old man was mad he would 3 or 4 of these a day....when they banned them he went stupid.
                          Coke has been rife amongst players for over 20 years .....not all do it but seem s to be quite a few idiots .
                          Ive seen NRL players a long time ago do it with my own eyes ...so dont throw stones .
                          Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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                          • #58
                            Lets put this in perspective, remember the Pearce simulated sex with a dog incident!
                            From memory Pearce copped 5 weeks and $50k fine.
                            Lets see the consistency. Its all about brand perception and what it could cost the NRL. This looks bad, I don't care about your personal opinion about drugs, this look bad.
                            Big companies don't want to be associated with drugs.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Team Evil View Post
                              Lets put this in perspective, remember the Pearce simulated sex with a dog incident!
                              From memory Pearce copped 5 weeks and $50k fine.
                              Lets see the consistency. Its all about brand perception and what it could cost the NRL. This looks bad, I don't care about your personal opinion about drugs, this look bad.
                              Big companies don't want to be associated with drugs.
                              Eight-week suspension, $75,000 fine - plus $50,000 suspended - and stripped of co-captaincy for video simulating lewd act with a dog.
                              Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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                              • #60
                                Didn't think it was possible to dislike the head kicker anymore than I do already. And then footage of him high on drugs , dancing shirtless on a table turns up . Lol

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