Originally posted by The Thracian
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is Daniel Tupou a Roosters great?
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His record speaks for itself. And off the field he is a very humble, softly spoken person. Which is probably why he hasn't been involved in any BS.
My hope for Toops over the next 5-6 years is that he
1. Wins another couple of comps with us
2 Scores another 70 odd tries (which will take him past Mimi's record for most tries scored)
3. Plays out his career with us
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Originally posted by The Thracian View PostMany here would consider Mitchell Pearce a club great
lets see, Toops has won one more premiership, has a far better origin record, has played an official test match for his country, has stayed loyal to the club on less than half the coin, is a pleasure to speak too and has never dragged this clubs name through the ringer.
based on those principles alone yes he is
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Pearce would be an interesting one to debate. He was a club captain. He played 238 first grade games for the Roosters (5th all time). all 200+ gamers are Roosters greats - Mini, Ricko, Aubbo, Friend, Fitzy, SKDsy, Horrie and Freddy. He won a premiership for the club, represented his state on many occasions (though did not win too often), and was the Jack Gibson Medallist three times. But counting against him was his inability to win high pressure games (SOO and prelims) and his off-field incidents (girl in the yellow dress, and the dog humping). Also I think that the way that Cronk replaced him and promptly won a premiership (along with the broken scapula sidestory) has meant that we have focussed on Cooper and kinda forgotten Mitch. I think once some time has passed we'll probably see him as comparable to Lammy in that he was a fine player, but below the class of Mayes/Horrie/Cronk
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Originally posted by HBK View PostPearce would be an interesting one to debate. He was a club captain. He played 238 first grade games for the Roosters (5th all time). all 200+ gamers are Roosters greats - Mini, Ricko, Aubbo, Friend, Fitzy, SKDsy, Horrie and Freddy. He won a premiership for the club, represented his state on many occasions (though did not win too often), and was the Jack Gibson Medallist three times. But counting against him was his inability to win high pressure games (SOO and prelims) and his off-field incidents (girl in the yellow dress, and the dog humping). Also I think that the way that Cronk replaced him and promptly won a premiership (along with the broken scapula sidestory) has meant that we have focussed on Cooper and kinda forgotten Mitch. I think once some time has passed we'll probably see him as comparable to Lammy in that he was a fine player, but below the class of Mayes/Horrie/Cronk
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Originally posted by Thirteen View PostHas he played a better game than he played for us on Thursday? I thought he was brilliant. Many tough carries and very safe hands.
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Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View PostNo...but he is absolutely a great clubman, and a high quality player.
I'm a bit stingy handing out the "Roosters great" tag though.
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His game on ANZAC day was one of his best ever.
I really think he underachieved in seasons 15,16 and 17....and i know your all going to blast me for saying it- but i thought after 2013 he was going to be a dominant player not just a solid first grader.
Last year he started to play with confidence and this year has been his best start to a season yet. I'm loving the way he is running through the line on his kick returns and no longer backing his way into the defence to try a pop a pass. He is also way more confident in defence and when running in he is committing to stopping the ball from spreading and hammering the opposing centre. Now they are policing attacking players getting run off the ball in attack he can really use his height and jumping ability.
I hope i haven't gone off too soon but he looks like a player who knows he is bigger,stronger and faster than the guy who is marking him and is making his mark with aggression.
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View PostNot yet.
Time will cement his legacy at the club.
He is in the same boat as Liu, SST and Cornder for mine. If they left tomorrow they would be remembered fondly but if they stick around for another 5 years they will be remembered as greats of the club.
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Originally posted by TheLoneRooster View PostI love the guy with the following caveats:
1. Toops, you're a big guy, use your size more effectively when hitting the ball up
2. If you're not going to do point number 1, then don't let yourself get dragged back so far and so often
3. It's OK to smile occasionally, especially when you score a try
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