Valentine Holmes

[2026]

GI at fullback has been a flop at national level.

Slater the little grub is still da man.

[stringaz]

Easy to kill at centre in origin when you have Smith, cronk and Thurston giving early ball and playing off the back of Scott and thaiday etc. I think G.I is a better fb than centre largely because he picks and chooses when he injects himself whereas at centre in club level he has to rely on lesser skilled people around him. Couldn't say mini was better than Inglis and I think history will show that quite clearly. Slater, Hayne and lockyer are all debatable. Inglis also much better than Stewart.

As for rts and teddy, time will tell.

It will always sound bias but I think mini was a better fb all round than ginglis. I'll pose the question of whether inglis would have come back from a back injury like mini did

[stringaz]

When we were linked to James Tedesco POS came out and said we're not going to sign him because we've got a kid in SG BALL who is the real deal.
When we lost RTS Trent Robinson came out and said it'll be Latrell Mitchell who replaces him, but only when he's ready.

There has been support & faith put into this kid being our fullback for a very, very long time.

Enter past hypothesis. POS apparently was quite cut losing rts, how long would we have kept him for (being quite young) until he was moved on for latrell to go to fb, NOT debut, but fb

[Tommy Smith]

Slater pisses all over Inglis as a fullback. As does Lockyer. Hayne at his peak is probably the best of the lot but didn't do it long enough.

But Slater is an infinitely better defender. Much busier. A better ball player. A far better support player. The only area GI has him covered is with his phenomenonal ball running ability. He's obviously a very powerful ball runner but Slater, and Lockyer, Mini and Hayne (and Stewart) have him covered in all other areas.

Oh and Mini at his peak has Inglis at fb covered. Between 2003-2005 he was amazing. He played at a much higher level than Inglis ever has at fullback.

Look at Mini for Aus. Back to back Kangaroos Player of the Tour. And a dominant force for NSW. Inglis however has been a flop at fullback for Aus, who have been a shadow of their former selves without the great Billy Slater at fullback.

[Arties Pie]

You still crying about RTS?

Nah actually couldn't give a rat's ass as he's just a player, but was making the point we didn't lose him rather that he left.

[Guest]

Enter past hypothesis. POS apparently was quite cut losing rts, how long would we have kept him for (being quite young) until he was moved on for latrell to go to fb, NOT debut, but fb

Roger Tuivasa Sheck was seen as the long term five-eighth

[Kelby]

No for me. I'd prefer SBW for 18 months, Shaun Lane and Kodi Nikorima. AND bye bye pearce..........

[davos]

Roger Tuivasa Sheck was seen as the long term five-eighth

Not sure why people think this would have been a good idea. I think that robbo would have only played him at 5/8th in the case of an emergency or in trials games but long term, RTS does not possess the characteristics of a champion 5/8th. Sure he has a good step, but I don't think he is as creative as a good 5/8th when there is a line of defenders in front of him with little space and a higher defensive workload. This is part of the reason why mitchell moses has struggled.

[davos]

On Valentine Holmes, I think he'd be good for like 1 year maybe 2 but after that he would struggle to hold down a spot at fb with a fully NRL experience Latrell.

He'd probably know that which would make it very hard for him to commit to this club. I personally think he'd have a better career at St George, even though I still rate Josh Dugan highly as a fb regardless of what people say about him being a centre or his stats last year. I still think he has one of the best running games. Problem is that he is just too injury prone.

[Insider]

I think he is brilliant in any position. Probably more dangerous at FB cause he can pop up anywhere.

Had Inglis signed with any other club other than mel, manly or us I think he would have spent most of his club career at FB. You couldn't have moved slater, mini, or Stewart to centre to accomodate Inglis at FB they just wouldn't have been as effective. Inglis could destroy a team from both positions.As others have stated, different style of player, devastating but I guess a bit lazy or not really the type that gets fully involved all game or week in week out.Hayne was similar to Inglis in that way as well, devastating but had his quiet periods.

[Salvatori Grubber]

Inglis is a phenomenon in attack, but the talk of him becoming an immortal (Tele, Channel 9) is ridiculous.

[davos]

It will always sound bias but I think mini was a better fb all round than ginglis. I'll pose the question of whether inglis would have come back from a back injury like mini did

Same here but pre 2006. I think the only better fb I have ever seen than that was hayne in the end of 2009.

But Mini pre 2006 , certainly has the better of both Inglis, Slater and maybe even RTS, all round I mean.

Some of those runs he made on kick returns back then were in a class of their own. Defensively he was always as safe as a house.

[Rooster_6]

Inglis has destroyed NSW at centre in almost every game he's played.

At fullback he can go stretches of one whole month without being sighted. He was bog average last year for Souffs, even when fit.

Even in 2014 he was quiet for large stretches and it was the monster that is Sam Burgess that dragged them home on the back of the penalty-a-thon.

GI is easily the best centre I've ever seen. But he'd probably be the 6th best fullback I've seen behind Slater, Mini, Lockyer, Hayne and Stewart. RTS and Tedesco will also surpass him as a fullback.

They have infinitely higher involvement on a week to week basis.

Inglis is a great centre, there's no denying that but he's much more involved as a fullback than he ever was a centre, don't forget his lack of involvement and poor output for Souths in the centres is what triggered the move to begin with.

It's a slightly different story a rep level when you're consistently getting quality ball and are kept in the game by class players but his quiet games at club level in the centres far outweigh his quiet games at fullback, there's no doubting that.

In his first season for Souths as a centre he average 90m per game, since moving to fullback in his second season he's averaged 140m+ every season since, he averages nearly twice as many lienbreaks, try assists and nearly 3 times as many line break assists. A more involved Inglis means a better Souths. His play at fullback is limited and sometimes overrated but it's undoubtedly the position that gets the best out of him.

[Tommy Smith]

I don't deny that you get more out of him at fullback. That's just basic maths as he touches the ball more.

I'm just saying that he's a better centre. I'd rate him an 8/10 fullback and a 10/10 centre.

But of course if you were coach you'd still pick him at fullback for your club, that's just common sense unless you're John Lang.

[Bigchook]

Inglis is a phenomenon in attack, but the talk of him becoming an immortal (Tele, Channel 9) is ridiculous.

The only ones in contention to be immortalised should be jt and smith.