SBW's fight to be held less than 3 weeks before start of NRL season

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

[QUOTE=SConcierge;260208]FMD

Will he be fit? is the pope catholic, are we stupid or pretending!

The only negative that can be debated is game plan if he joins the club a couple of weeks from Rnd1, now how long will it take him to get up to speed? lol serious pettiness and stupid posts!

Considering we kept who we wanted and lost a piece of heavy dead wood in Anasta and picked up a decent 5/8 whats all the fuss about??
The guy will make a big difference in our team, a big difference in crowds and I think he will lift the whole team. Our big boys will be pumped to play with him they idolise him, you can hear the hope and excitement in their voices. I spoke to JWH and he is jumping up and down like a little kid with his fingers and toes crossed.

Anyone that is against the SBW signing is a frken idoit we lost nothing to sign him.[/QUOTE]

I reckon we lost our integrity and around $800K.

I'm a frken idiot.

[milanja]

I reckon we lost our integrity and around $800K.

I'm a frken idiot.[/QUOTE]

so how much have we lost with the likes of anasta carney mini friend symonds fpn? Does the whole game lose integrity by signing folau back and the guys who left the game for union and then came back?

With the 800k would you have given it to mini or split it up among the rest of the playing group because they deserve it? Would you have spent it on players like beau ryan and heighinton that were off contract? If the 800k came out of your pocket i cld see your concern, but it hasnt so you can try to enjoy the ride or keep being a sour puss with no real options of what should have happened with the 800k.

[Salvatori Grubber]

^ Good post

[SConcierge]

[QUOTE=Kingsgrove-Loiner;260221]

FMD

Will he be fit? is the pope catholic, are we stupid or pretending!

The only negative that can be debated is game plan if he joins the club a couple of weeks from Rnd1, now how long will it take him to get up to speed? lol serious pettiness and stupid posts!

Considering we kept who we wanted and lost a piece of heavy dead wood in Anasta and picked up a decent 5/8 whats all the fuss about??
The guy will make a big difference in our team, a big difference in crowds and I think he will lift the whole team. Our big boys will be pumped to play with him they idolise him, you can hear the hope and excitement in their voices. I spoke to JWH and he is jumping up and down like a little kid with his fingers and toes crossed.

Anyone that is against the SBW signing is a frken idoit we lost nothing to sign him.[/QUOTE]

I reckon we lost our integrity and around $800K.

I'm a frken idiot.

Mate I dont see how you can post that! pure speculation and means nothing.

I could say we signed him for 500 based on agreeing to the rugby stint and the boxing plus sponsorship?

Either way mate he will ADD to the team, without us loosing any players. If we dont resign him the following yr we have a tidy packet to pick up a gun or top up the current players.
I dont see how we have lost out from this deal? and I dont understand why people are against it? So far every argument against put forward adds up to I dont like him??? whats yours?

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

One simple question guys......do you believe that we should make Money Bill the highest paid player in the game?

[stsae]

One simple question guys......do you believe that we should make Money Bill the highest paid player in the game?

How do you know what we are going to pay him will make him the highest paid player in the game???

Will money matter if he performs very well for us???

Me personally I don't believe he would be earning as much as a Thursthead or Smiff or Slater. But if he is able to pick that coin up, well good on him.

Suits at the club balance the cap. That's their job and if they can do it and afford a $BW well that's good enough for me, they are doing their job, giving us as much chance to win a comp as is possible under the cap.

The fact is no one but $BW and the suits at the club know what his wage will be. Like it is for every player in the comp. Anyone quoting figures are reprinting speculation at best, the Rothwitt method.

For the life of me I can't understand why fans or the media want to speculate about players wages. Not having a go at you specifically mate, it's just a general statement.

I'm gonna just enjoy watching and hoping he performs and lifts the players around him. Not worry about his wage or the cap.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

I'm not saying I know how much he's on mate.....but he walked out on around $500K, so you don't need an abacus to work out that he's going to be on a lot more than that 5 years later.

The general concencus on here seems to be that he'll be worth it. I very much doubt it, but I hope I'm wrong.

Here's another scenario...what if we go close next year, but he's bailed after one year to go to say, St George. We're back to the drawing board, minus the undisclosed wedge. Would you consider it a worthwhile exercise?

[Guest]

How do you know what we are going to pay him will make him the highest paid player in the game???

Will money matter if he performs very well for us???

Me personally I don't believe he would be earning as much as a Thursthead or Smiff or Slater. But if he is able to pick that coin up, well good on him.

Suits at the club balance the cap. That's their job and if they can do it and afford a $BW well that's good enough for me, they are doing their job, giving us as much chance to win a comp as is possible under the cap.

The fact is no one but $BW and the suits at the club know what his wage will be. Like it is for every player in the comp. Anyone quoting figures are reprinting speculation at best, the Rothwitt method.

For the life of me I can't understand why fans or the media want to speculate about players wages. Not having a go at you specifically mate, it's just a general statement.

I'm gonna just enjoy watching and hoping he performs and lifts the players around him. Not worry about his wage or the cap.

This'll throw the cat amongst the pigeons;

The club is seemingly going to make Mini captain for next year,so i reckon they should tempt $BW with the captaincy for 2014 onwards as an incentive to make him a long term Rooster..

When you get your hands on a rare talent like $BW you do what i takes to keep them as long as you can..

IMO of course..

[stsae]

I'm not saying I know how much he's on mate.....but he walked out on around $500K, so you don't need an abacus to work out that he's going to be on a lot more than that 5 years later.

The general concencus on here seems to be that he'll be worth it. I very much doubt it, but I hope I'm wrong.

Here's another scenario...what if we go close next year, but he's bailed after one year to go to say, St George. We're back to the drawing board, minus the undisclosed wedge. Would you consider it a worthwhile exercise?

To answer your scenario mate I wasn't unhappy when we signed Carntey. I knew it was a sink or swim signing. And his 2 seasons here had both. Anytime you make a GF it's worth it. So I say yep, if that played out I could live with it.

Every signing is a risk. Anything can happen. Anyone can leave or can be pushed at anytime.

Personally I believe 5 year contracts are bad business, players or coaches. When people have to perform for another deal more often they play better, IMO that's natural.

I like $BWs attitude, he is prepared to put his rep on the line each season and back his ability. He's always hungry.

I agree with HorrieIsGod. His idea of the captaincy to $BW makes some sense. It's every players dream to captain a GF winning side, it's the holy grail. I'm sure $BW wouldn't be much different.

I'd be prepared to seriously consider a 2 year max limit on all contracts at the club. IMO it could work. You perform and you get renewed, if the club can't afford it your market values high cos you perform and you will be picked up, it's a win-win situation. Everyone's hungry, everyone backs themselves.

What's a contract worth now really??? Fark me every year we see players and clubs and coaches wrangle out of contracts when it suits.

On $BW I would believe his contract would be heavily subsidized by 3rd party payments. That's the case with all the highly paid players, their cap value is always much lower than we speculate, cos they are topped up by sponsors not included in the cap. They will be lining up to sponsor $BW, just the media attention he gets alone and his clean living image, he's a marketeers wet dream.

IMO it's a no brainer signing the bloke for a year or two or whatever the fark he wants. The crowds and TV audiences and sponsors alone will ensure that.

I just hope he clicks on the field and stays relatively injury free.

[SConcierge]

One simple question guys......do you believe that we should make Money Bill the highest paid player in the game?

Mate Lockeyer was on 200k!
SBW deal would be a combo of Jap rugby + fights + his sponsors will follow him + a que on new sponsors + a contract in favour of Easts in terms of $$$$.

[Guest]

Big NO to SBWalkout.

[Guest]

I'm not saying I know how much he's on mate.....but he walked out on around $500K, so you don't need an abacus to work out that he's going to be on a lot more than that 5 years later.

The general concencus on here seems to be that he'll be worth it. I very much doubt it, but I hope I'm wrong.

Here's another scenario...what if we go close next year, but he's bailed after one year to go to say, St George. We're back to the drawing board, minus the undisclosed wedge. Would you consider it a worthwhile exercise?

Walked out on 400k and if/when he leaves we can pick up to players for the price of one e.g Glen Stewart/Mateo Tamou/Kingston Bird/Farah.

[Guest]

I dont understand the argument people make for saying that we could get 2-3 good players with the money spent on SBW when he leaves. Why the fark dont we do that now? Putting all your eggs in one basket is usually a recipe for disaster. A short term fix is also a long term loss.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

I dont understand the argument people make for saying that we could get 2-3 good players with the money spent on SBW when he leaves. Why the fark dont we do that now? Putting all your eggs in one basket is usually a recipe for disaster. A short term fix is also a long term loss.

Agree mate. We could get Tamou and Bird for starters, and still have change.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

To answer your scenario mate I wasn't unhappy when we signed Carntey. I knew it was a sink or swim signing. And his 2 seasons here had both. Anytime you make a GF it's worth it. So I say yep, if that played out I could live with it.

Every signing is a risk. Anything can happen. Anyone can leave or can be pushed at anytime.

Personally I believe 5 year contracts are bad business, players or coaches. When people have to perform for another deal more often they play better, IMO that's natural.

I like $BWs attitude, he is prepared to put his rep on the line each season and back his ability. He's always hungry.

I agree with HorrieIsGod. His idea of the captaincy to $BW makes some sense. It's every players dream to captain a GF winning side, it's the holy grail. I'm sure $BW wouldn't be much different.

I'd be prepared to seriously consider a 2 year max limit on all contracts at the club. IMO it could work. You perform and you get renewed, if the club can't afford it your market values high cos you perform and you will be picked up, it's a win-win situation. Everyone's hungry, everyone backs themselves.

What's a contract worth now really??? Fark me every year we see players and clubs and coaches wrangle out of contracts when it suits.

On $BW I would believe his contract would be heavily subsidized by 3rd party payments. That's the case with all the highly paid players, their cap value is always much lower than we speculate, cos they are topped up by sponsors not included in the cap. They will be lining up to sponsor $BW, just the media attention he gets alone and his clean living image, he's a marketeers wet dream.

IMO it's a no brainer signing the bloke for a year or two or whatever the fark he wants. The crowds and TV audiences and sponsors alone will ensure that.

I just hope he clicks on the field and stays relatively injury free.

Some good points mate, but the last line is the important bit. He hasn't played for a very long time, who knows what he's going to be like....