How many fans are too scared to criticize Nick Politis?

[Darkone]

I pay for a seat every season & I hate to see the team lose

From the changes the past months it seems there's a genuine attempt to appease fans

If Politis has contributed to or instigated those changes to achieve better results on the field I support him or whoever

the questions about money & from whom or from where is just bull$hit ponderings tainted with agenda

[Bansai Pipeline]

I'm with The Wheel.

Members should have a say.

I'm a member, I want a say.

Why wouldn't I?

Who does the board answer to otherwise?

What if they decided to privatise the club?

In the AFL, hugely successful clubs with giant membership bases like Essendon and Collingwood give their members voting rights.

Those clubs aren't suffering as a result. To the contrary, they're thriving and their fans feel engaged and part of the place.

Why fans would willingly say no to a say in their club, I have no idea.

That position is either idiotic or just plain apathetic.

Either way, it's cowardly.

[Headless Chook]

I asked him that sometime last year Gman and got a sarcastic, derogatory put down in response. Be warned.

He reminds me of The Predator out of the Arnie movies. The Predator only showed up in places of great violence and death, much like Tony only shows up when the Roosters are going through turmoil and controversy.

[BUDDY]

Hey TOK you forgot to address this question a couple of times asked.

Are you happy with how we are looking in 2013; player roster, coaches, COO?

Are you happy with how we are looking for the next 4-5 years?

If so, who would you give credit to for putting us in this position?

[stsae]

I'm with The Wheel.

Members should have a say.

I'm a member, I want a say.

Why wouldn't I?

Who does the board answer to otherwise?

What if they decided to privatise the club?

In the AFL, hugely successful clubs with giant membership bases like Essendon and Collingwood give their members voting rights.

Those clubs aren't suffering as a result. To the contrary, they're thriving and their fans feel engaged and part of the place.

Why fans would willingly say no to a say in their club, I have no idea.

That position is either idiotic or just plain apathetic.

Either way, it's cowardly.

Who is saying they would willingly say no to having a say in the club mate???

I can only see people saying they have no problems with how it's being run now.

That doesn't mean if members had a chance to vote people wouldn't accept that or Not use that right. It just means they are happy with what the current set up offers. They don't see a need for that sort of change.


Let me ask, if we had such elections or votes for positions on the board, wouldn't it be the case that whatever board someone like Politis wanted he could pretty well get??? I mean the person who could reach the most members and convince them to vote the way they wanted them to???


Look if we were in a position we were in in the early 90s, more than a decade of mismanagement, I'm sure many more would support more vocally such an idea. But for the majority of the time since Politis took over running the joint we have done very well.

People obviously hope next season will bring a turn in current on field fortunes. The lower grades did very well so the youth thingy seems to be working. Changes have been made to the coaching and support staff and a couple of good players been purchased.

[theGman]

Gman, I will give you a simple and legitimate answer
Yes
If questioning the validity of a dictatorial chairman who operates under a closed shop when it comes to accountability leads you to think that I must therefore not be a supporter of the club, then you're a moron.
Please don't ask me again

Tony, thanks for setting the record straight. Up until now you've avoided disclosing whether you are indeed a RWB supporter, so it's understandable for many of us to consider you a shite stirring troll.

You're an interesting "character" & i scratch my head at times based on your views & comments. The fact you're employed by one of Ruppie's companies adds a different dimension to your forum contributions

p.s I would jump at the chance of becoming a member of the football club and having an opportunity to vote on pertinent matters relating to the future of my team i.e name change, relocation (if) etc...

[Guest]

Tony, thanks for setting the record straight. Up until now you've avoided disclosing whether you are indeed a RWB supporter, so it's understandable for many of us to consider you a shite stirring troll.

You're an interesting "character" & i scratch my head at times based on your views & comments. The fact you're employed by one of Ruppie's companies adds a different dimension to your forum contributions

I'm not at all surprised that you spend quite a bit of time head scratching Gman.

And the fact that I'm one of the god knows how many thousand people who work for his companies has absolutely nothing to do with any of my views. It's just a convenient handle for the fools we have on this site to grab onto when their arguments fail.

And why you think that would "add another dimension" to my forum contributions or make you confused only serves to underline the fact that you are, indeed, confused Gman.

Hence the head scratching

Enjoy the off season

[Guest]

Hey TOK you forgot to address this question a couple of times asked.

Are you happy with how we are looking in 2013; player roster, coaches, COO?

Are you happy with how we are looking for the next 4-5 years?

If so, who would you give credit to for putting us in this position?

so sorry to have kept you waiting Buddy

1) yes, but then I'm always happy and hopeful leading into any season. For 2013 though, I'm extremely optimistic regarding Robinson, and think it's so much of a better move than the usual Nick way - throw stacks of cash at someone who's worked out well elsewhere. Good call Nick. As for the roster, I have reservations, and I don't believe it's a roster that can make the top 4 or threaten. But I'll be hoping like hell that I'm wrong.

2) odd question. Things change so much from year to year, I don't think any club or any supporters can be confident about where they'll be in 5 years. What I do want though is stability, and for the club to build a long term culture whereby players want to come here for more than the cash. Politis certainly hasn't helped in that regard

[theGman]

I'm not at all surprised that you spend quite a bit of time head scratching Gman.
And the fact that I'm one of the god knows how many thousand people who work for his companies has absolutely nothing to do with any of my views. It's just a convenient handle for the fools we have on this site to grab onto when their arguments fail.
And why you think that would "add another dimension" to my forum contributions or make you confused only serves to underline the fact that you are, indeed, confused Gman.
Hence the head scratching.
Enjoy the off season

As you can see, i'm a very direct & straight up person.....i don't tolerate fools.

Is Rothwit an acquaintance of yours? Does he influence your views?
It's obvious he hates our club with a passion......any opportunity to paint us in a negative way he does so. Tony, as a fan of our club & fellow journo of his, do you ever pull him up & remind him of his childness?

[Guest]

I'm with The Wheel.

Members should have a say.

I'm a member, I want a say.

Why wouldn't I?

Who does the board answer to otherwise?

What if they decided to privatise the club?

In the AFL, hugely successful clubs with giant membership bases like Essendon and Collingwood give their members voting rights.

Those clubs aren't suffering as a result. To the contrary, they're thriving and their fans feel engaged and part of the place.

Why fans would willingly say no to a say in their club, I have no idea.

That position is either idiotic or just plain apathetic.

Either way, it's cowardly.

exactly, and if the president isn't performing, he's answerable to those members and will find himself gone

[Guest]

As you can see, i'm a very direct & straight up person.....i don't tolerate fools.

Is Rothwit an acquaintance of yours? Does he influence your views?
It's obvious he hates our club with a passion......any opportunity to paint us in a negative way he does so. Tony, as a fan of our club & fellow journo of his, do you ever pull him and remind him of his childness?

Gman, it's a very big company mate

I've never met him, never spoken to him. I'm not a journalist

You do need to understand though that journalists like him are employed to be controversial. I'd suggest fans at every club disagree with a stack of what he writes, but they still read the paper, and then go and talk with their mates about "what that idiot Rothfield wrote today"

That's what it's about

I'd also add that him aside, The Roosters receive excellent coverage, probably more than any other club in the comp

[Guest]

I notice Teabags picks & chooses the posts he answers..

Now that is cowardly..

[Bansai Pipeline]

Who is saying they would willingly say no to having a say in the club mate???

I can only see people saying they have no problems with how it's being run now...

Fair enough.

It's been said on here before though that people wouldn't want members to have a vote, as it would mean 'the idiots taking over the asylum' etc, etc.

[Guest]

Yeah, lets get rid of the one person that has had our backs since God knows when. Without Politis, our club would have never made it through the super league era because we didnt meet the criteria. We would have merged with Souths or been a feeder club in the NSW cup. Go back and read the news articles. People have such short memories.
Nick Politis is a fan and an administrator. He hires and fires coaches and expects results, like we all do. He can walk away at any time and people seem to forget that before he took over, our previous CEO and his family were taking trips to Hawaii with the clubs finances during a time where we were struggling on the field. There is no smarter businessman than Politis and he has been one of leagues most powerful men for decades now. He has given more to this club than anyone here and here we are questioning his viability. Not Me. Politis IS the Roosters.

[chook 56]

Good post, Egg Daddy.