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  • #46
    Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
    Are you happy with how we are looking in 2013; player roster, coaches, COO?

    Are you satisfied with what our club has achieved since 2000? Do you believe our results since are the envy of most Sydney clubs?

    yes, but picking 2000 simply supports your case

    Instead, perhaps consider 2 premiership wins in the last 37 years


    Were you the Tony that emailed Graeme Hughes a couple of days ago quoting Rothfield's article word for word?

    No

    I don't know of any clubs which don't go through rough patches. Mistakes are made with players, coaches, administrators. You acknowledge the mistakes, fix them and move on. That's why we have made the GF 5 years since 2000. Canterbury have gone through some shockers, made the proper changes and are on a high now. I believe we are now going to go through the same with the recent changes made. If you agree, who do you believe deserves credit for that? Why blame Nick when we go through the bad times but when we make grand finals all the credit goes to Freddy and Carney?
    You don't get it. Politis might be one of the mistakes you refer to, but he can't be "moved on". The members should have a voice, but they don't. That's the whole point

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    • #47
      There's only so much you can write about a story involving a heap of Qlders singing their team song after a test victory.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
        You don't get it. Politis might be one of the mistakes you refer to, but he can't be "moved on". The members should have a voice, but they don't. That's the whole point
        Oh I get it. I am just happy with the situation. Actually quite excited about the next few years. If we go through a decade that Souths, Eels, Sharks, Tigers, Dragons, Panthers, Knights, Raiders, Cowboys....have I missed anyone?.....have gone through then I will jump up and down like you. Actually I can't see that happening in the next decade. Can you?

        Good to hear you weren't that Tony. He came across as a complete Rothfield crony loser who had no idea what he was talking about. That's better left to internet forums.

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        • #49
          Wests Tigers, Penrith Panthers, St George-Illawarra, Cronulla Sharks are all inferior run clubs to the Sydney Roosters. Privately owned teams such as the Gold Coast Titans, Vodafone Warriors, South Sydney Rabbitohs and Newcastle Knights are also inferior run clubs.

          The Sydney Roosters are one of the very few self sustainable clubs in the NRL competition.

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          • #50
            Ignorance is Bliss

            or

            All Roosters are equal, but some are more equal than others

            That Orwell bloke was onto something, I reckon.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
              Oh I get it. I am just happy with the situation. Actually quite excited about the next few years. If we go through a decade that Souths, Eels, Sharks, Tigers, Dragons, Panthers, Knights, Raiders, Cowboys....have I missed anyone?.....have gone through then I will jump up and down like you. Actually I can't see that happening in the next decade. Can you?

              Good to hear you weren't that Tony. He came across as a complete Rothfield crony loser who had no idea what he was talking about. That's better left to internet forums.
              So, as a member of the club, and someone who is such a staunch fan that you spend time chatting with other fans regularly online, even during the off season, you'd prefer not to have the slightest say in who does or does not sit on the board?

              Is that because you don't trust yourself to be able to have a proper opinion as to who might or might not be suitable?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
                So, as a member of the club, and someone who is such a staunch fan that you spend time chatting with other fans regularly online, even during the off season, you'd prefer not to have the slightest say in who does or does not sit on the board?

                Is that because you don't trust yourself to be able to have a proper opinion as to who might or might not be suitable?
                No, it's because I can have my own opinion. I don't work for the DT.

                I am happy with the current set up. Why do I want to change it? We are going better than most of the privately owned clubs and ones run by members. As I said, if in ten years time we have a similar record to those clubs I mentioned then I might think that an 80 year old Politis is over it. I would say he may stand down well before then.

                So if Politis became owner of the club would you still have a stance against him? I'll give you a moment to ask Rothfield.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by BUDDY View Post
                  No, it's because I can have my own opinion. I don't work for the DT.

                  I am happy with the current set up. Why do I want to change it? We are going better than most of the privately owned clubs and ones run by members. As I said, if in ten years time we have a similar record to those clubs I mentioned then I might think that an 80 year old Politis is over it. I would say he may stand down well before then.

                  So if Politis became owner of the club would you still have a stance against him? I'll give you a moment to ask Rothfield.
                  Buddy, if the best you've got is the delusional, tired, Rothfield shit, then you're dumber than I thought

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
                    Buddy, if the best you've got is the delusional, tired, Rothfield shit, then you're dumber than I thought
                    Coming from someone who tends to post word for word and agrees with anything Rothfield writes and works in the same office, I will take that as complimentary.

                    Does that mean you have nothing new to add about Politis that you haven't repeatedly said every year we haven't made the top 8 but conveniently kept it eating at you inside while we were in there? Sort of like what Rothfield does.
                    Last edited by BUDDY; 10-18-2012, 12:28 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
                      So, as a member of the club, and someone who is such a staunch fan that you spend time chatting with other fans regularly online, even during the off season, you'd prefer not to have the slightest say in who does or does not sit on the board?

                      Is that because you don't trust yourself to be able to have a proper opinion as to who might or might not be suitable?
                      Tony,
                      I have a simple & legitimate question to ask you. Just to set the record straight, do you support the Roosters?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by trewhella View Post
                        Let's face it.
                        It's Nicks club.

                        Do the people that are criticizing me understand that concept?

                        So people are criticizing you cos you criticized them in your original post for not being as critical as yourself when it comes to criticizing Politis???

                        It means that he is the head of the tribe.
                        What he says goes.

                        From the top of my head.....
                        He has sacked due to poor performance before contract fulfillments.

                        Graham Murray
                        Ricky Stuart
                        Chris Anderson
                        Brad Fittler
                        Brian Smith.

                        Freddy wasn't sacked.


                        We have had wooden spoons, bottom 3 finishes , player mismanagement, culture problems, players moving to other clubs and performing better.

                        5 GFs, 1 win, 1 minor premiership, 5 top 4 finishes.


                        Yet.....somehow, fans do not seem to mind because of the financial gains assosciated with the owner.
                        But he is not really an owner!

                        Isn't it Politis and his boards job to keep us ahead financially while giving the 1st grade side every opportunity to be in the hunt consistently???



                        There is a disparity here and I think it deserves open debate.
                        If Nick was the official owner I would not question nor criticize him at all.
                        Yet, we have a "Mickey mouse " board and a pseudo owner that contributes unknown amounts.

                        So what do you actually want changed mate??? I still don't get why???
                        I refuse to multi quote, but I like to bold.



                        The FlogPen .

                        You know it makes sense.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by theGman View Post
                          Tony,
                          I have a simple & legitimate question to ask you. Just to set the record straight, do you support the Roosters?
                          I asked him that sometime last year Gman and got a sarcastic, derogatory put down in response. Be warned.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
                            You don't get it. Politis might be one of the mistakes you refer to, but he can't be "moved on". The members should have a voice, but they don't. That's the whole point
                            In your post you said going back to 2000 supports Buddy's argument, why not go back 37 years.

                            Didn't Politis start as the boss in 94-95??? In fairness if we are judging his record in charge shouldn't we use the period to judge his performance???

                            So since then, 18 seasons ago, we have made the semis 11 times, been top 4 at least 7 times, a minor premiership, 2 club championships, 5 GF appearances, a GF win and a WCC win??? That's off the top of my head I can't be farked googling. And we have also won a fair few lower grades comps in that time, even Ball and Flegg where we weren't competitive for decades before.

                            We have also come thru the SL war, the rationalization of teams, the mergers, the exclusions, News LTDs profit grab, salary cap scandals, TV deals etcetcetc all pretty well unscathed.

                            We have strong corporate sponsors and from all reports have a tidy property portfolio helping to ensure the club is viable for years to come.

                            All this has been achieved with a system you don't agree with.

                            Why would you expect people to accept your way is better when we have a very good track record compared to the majority of clubs we compete with???

                            You cannot guarantee your model for how Easts should be run works any better. I haven't seen a single example from you where another club has done better with the set up you want.

                            Why do you want things to change???



                            The FlogPen .

                            You know it makes sense.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by theGman View Post
                              Tony,
                              I have a simple & legitimate question to ask you. Just to set the record straight, do you support the Roosters?
                              He supports the Sharks.
                              Originally posted by turk-283
                              Kurt 79 - Kags 0..

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by theGman View Post
                                Tony,
                                I have a simple & legitimate question to ask you. Just to set the record straight, do you support the Roosters?
                                Gman, I will give you a simple and legitimate answer

                                Yes

                                If questioning the validity of a dictatorial chairman who operates under a closed shop when it comes to accountability leads you to think that I must therefore not be a supporter of the club, then you're a moron

                                Please don't ask me again

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