Time for a new coach

[Mr Whippet]

Brad Arthur, Adam O’Brien, Jason Demetriou, Trent Barrett, David Furner, Hook, Holbrook, take your pick? Who will it be?

JD and Latrell as a package, spark up the forum.

[Arties Pie]

Robinson...triple premiership winning coach.

Keary, premiership winning 6.

They are not the problem..

On Keary he WAS a great player but with age has lost a yard of pace and isn’t creating the opportunities he once did hence his low percentage passing game that has crept into his gameplay over the last couple of seasons. Couple that with the fact he can’t steer the team around and has a very short kicking game…

Most of this is no fault of his as he was always a running half with a short kicking game.. The fault lies with recruitment for not bringing the Pearce / Cronk style half that we need to the club.

On Robbo, it’s like the game has past him by, all the teams that are doing well are the ones that do the basics well, high percentage plays with low unforced errors..
ALL the other teams are staying down and playing for the penalty game except us and that coupled with our usual high error rate is always going to kill us.

[Bates]

I don't care who but it's time. Robinson has to go. We are no longer in the upper echelon of teams and it's because of the guru. I sincerely thought we'd give it a shake this year, however this team is ordinary. That was rubbish what we witnessed tonight.

You're a piece of shit mate. I didn't get the opportunity to respond to your BS post on the other thread before it was closed.

Farking racist carnt!

[King Salvo]

On Keary he WAS a great player but with age has lost a yard of pace and isn’t creating the opportunities he once did hence his low percentage passing game that has crept into his gameplay over the last couple of seasons. Couple that with the fact he can’t steer the team around and has a very short kicking game…

Most of this is no fault of his as he was always a running half with a short kicking game.. The fault lies with recruitment for not bringing the Pearce / Cronk style half that we need to the club.

On Robbo, it’s like the game has past him by, all the teams that are doing well are the ones that do the basics well, high percentage plays with low unforced errors..
ALL the other teams are staying down and playing for the penalty game except us and that coupled with our usual high error rate is always going to kill us.

Not sure one can say that Luke Keary isn't creating the opportunities based on try assists stats during his time at the Roosters - Sam Walker is the one who has been struggling in this department since 2023. - see stats below

Walker needs to create on the right to bring Joey Manu and the Dominator (Dom Young) into the game more, as if not, it's left up to Keary and Tedesco, who will continually be heavily marked by the opposition, as was the case in the Storm Game.

You are right though that neither Keary nor Walker are organising/game manager halves; Sandon Smith is, and Hugo Savala is and also a rarity as he can do both roles: running half and organising/game manager half. A very tall half - good kicking game and also a goal kicker


Try Assist Stats

Luke Keary

2017 - 16 - 26 games
2018 - 21 - 23 games
2019 - 22 - 22 games
2020 - 18 - 20 games
2021 - 7 - 3 games
2022 - 22 - 22 games
2023 - 19 - 26 games
2024 - 5 - 6 games

Sam Walker

2021 - 19 - 21 games
2022 - 16 - 25 games
2023 - 4 - 10 games
2024 - 1 - 5 games

[The Real King]

Most of this is no fault of his as he was always a running half with a short kicking game.. The fault lies with recruitment for not bringing the Pearce / Cronk style half that we need to the club.

Thanks scoop and who's fault is that?

[Arties Pie]

Not sure one can say that Luke Keary isn't creating the opportunities based on try assists stats during his time at the Roosters - Sam Walker is the one who has been struggling in this department since 2023. - see stats below

Walker needs to create on the right to bring Joey Manu and the Dominator (Dom Young) into the game more, as if not, it's left up to Keary and Tedesco, who will continually be heavily marked by the opposition, as was the case in the Storm Game.

You are right though that neither Keary nor Walker are organising/game manager halves; Sandon Smith is, and Hugo Savala is and also a rarity as he can do both roles: running half and organising/game manager half. A very tall half - good kicking game and also a goal kicker


Try Assist Stats

Luke Keary

2017 - 16 - 26 games
2018 - 21 - 23 games
2019 - 22 - 22 games
2020 - 18 - 20 games
2021 - 7 - 3 games
2022 - 22 - 22 games
2023 - 19 - 26 games
2024 - 5 - 6 games

Sam Walker

2021 - 19 - 21 games
2022 - 16 - 25 games
2023 - 4 - 10 games
2024 - 1 - 5 games

Hugo Savala scored a couple of tries over the weekend as well as goal kicker…Think he will get a go in firsts ?

[mightyrooster]

JD and Latrell as a package, spark up the forum.

Definitely has potential…..to spark up the forum!!

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

You're a piece of shit mate. I didn't get the opportunity to respond to your BS post on the other thread before it was closed.

Farking racist carnt!

Well said. He is an idiot who thinks our team should dominate every year. The guy is a farking baby who cries when we lose. That isn't passion, just damn childish behaviour from a moron.

[A Country Member]

I think the calls he was referring to were the ones by the bunker- and if thats the case then he is right, it didn't stop the team getting into a rhythm. How did you read it???

I detected hesitation in his voice and the answer. To put it in Trent’s words, he wasn’t clear in his delivery despite the words.

It’s not the first time I’ve thought so and made notice of it in another thread. The other was about pressure in acknowledging and celebrating Jennings 300 games. Weidler’s column on Sunday somewhat confirmed it. It’s a ‘tell’ to me and I find his press conferences compelling viewing, especially for the language.

His dismissal of the Herald journo, Dan Walsh, was particularly interesting. It showed he is feeling the pressure and was defensive of Tedesco when Dan asked a ‘clumsy’ question regarding fitting Manu and Tedesco into the same team.

I thought the teak started the Storm game well and were gaining the ascendancy by playing direct. As is the Roosters way (credit to the Storm) they started playing laterally and lost their way. It wasn’t until Manu’s second half switch in attack, that any of the backs played straight.

And that is the key, direct play through the middle. Batter the middle from centre to prop. Maintain the focus and possibly hold the ball too

[Noosa Rooster]

Have a look at the ladder.

We have the fourth best points differential.

If a few calls went our way in the Manly, Bulldogs and Storm games we could have won all three.

That puts us on 12 points and equal first - second on points differential.

I think it's a bit early to be calling for a new coach.

[Bates]

Have a look at the ladder.

We have the fourth best points differential.

If a few calls went our way in the Manly, Bulldogs and Storm games we could have won all three.

That puts us on 12 points and equal first - second on points differential.

I think it's a bit early to be calling for a new coach.

The effort is there plus our D is respectable. Biggest issue is scoring more points than the opposition. I hate to say it but if the official were fair dinkum or we had lady luck on our side we'd be cruising in 1st.

Robbo has become the games biggest whinger so somethings not right..

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Not sure one can say that Luke Keary isn't creating the opportunities based on try assists stats during his time at the Roosters - Sam Walker is the one who has been struggling in this department since 2023. - see stats below

Walker needs to create on the right to bring Joey Manu and the Dominator (Dom Young) into the game more, as if not, it's left up to Keary and Tedesco, who will continually be heavily marked by the opposition, as was the case in the Storm Game.

You are right though that neither Keary nor Walker are organising/game manager halves; Sandon Smith is, and Hugo Savala is and also a rarity as he can do both roles: running half and organising/game manager half. A very tall half - good kicking game and also a goal kicker


Try Assist Stats

Luke Keary

2017 - 16 - 26 games
2018 - 21 - 23 games
2019 - 22 - 22 games
2020 - 18 - 20 games
2021 - 7 - 3 games
2022 - 22 - 22 games
2023 - 19 - 26 games
2024 - 5 - 6 games

Sam Walker

2021 - 19 - 21 games
2022 - 16 - 25 games
2023 - 4 - 10 games
2024 - 1 - 5 games

Good points King.

Even if you look at Kez's game last week...both try assists, two try savers on Shawn Blore and Papschmeer. Good kicking game with a coordinated kick chase which was quite effective. Yes we know he hasn't got the big boot...however..Has done ok for a team with only one kicker and all the playmaking responsibilities last two weeks.

A few are getting doey goo luv eyes for Sandon only cos the poor bastard hasn't played enough games in the halves for them to get their claws out. Our supporters kill our halves historically. All of em. Dumbos.

[Random Rooster]

I detected hesitation in his voice and the answer. To put it in Trent’s words, he wasn’t clear in his delivery despite the words.

It’s not the first time I’ve thought so and made notice of it in another thread. The other was about pressure in acknowledging and celebrating Jennings 300 games. Weidler’s column on Sunday somewhat confirmed it. It’s a ‘tell’ to me and I find his press conferences compelling viewing, especially for the language.

His dismissal of the Herald journo, Dan Walsh, was particularly interesting. It showed he is feeling the pressure and was defensive of Tedesco when Dan asked a ‘clumsy’ question regarding fitting Manu and Tedesco into the same team.

I thought the teak started the Storm game well and were gaining the ascendancy by playing direct. As is the Roosters way (credit to the Storm) they started playing laterally and lost their way. It wasn’t until Manu’s second half switch in attack, that any of the backs played straight.

And that is the key, direct play through the middle. Batter the middle from centre to prop. Maintain the focus and possibly hold the ball too

That's a great reply!! He can be a hard guy to read but you make sense. I do think the "super coach" question got what it deserved-im pretty sure all first grade coaches would have been a bit insulted and shut it down if it was asked to them.

Ill be taking more notice of his mannerisms in interviews for sure.

[Steggles]

Not sure one can say that Luke Keary isn't creating the opportunities based on try assists stats during his time at the Roosters - Sam Walker is the one who has been struggling in this department since 2023. - see stats below

Walker needs to create on the right to bring Joey Manu and the Dominator (Dom Young) into the game more, as if not, it's left up to Keary and Tedesco, who will continually be heavily marked by the opposition, as was the case in the Storm Game.

You are right though that neither Keary nor Walker are organising/game manager halves; Sandon Smith is, and Hugo Savala is and also a rarity as he can do both roles: running half and organising/game manager half. A very tall half - good kicking game and also a goal kicker


Try Assist Stats

Luke Keary

2017 - 16 - 26 games
2018 - 21 - 23 games
2019 - 22 - 22 games
2020 - 18 - 20 games
2021 - 7 - 3 games
2022 - 22 - 22 games
2023 - 19 - 26 games
2024 - 5 - 6 games

Sam Walker

2021 - 19 - 21 games
2022 - 16 - 25 games
2023 - 4 - 10 games
2024 - 1 - 5 games

I think the real issue these stats cannot highlight is that when Walker plays in the same team as Keary, he seems to take a back seat with Keary as the lead act. When Keary isn’t in the team, Walker plays much better and is far more creative. Keary seems to direct the plays, but the problem is he’s not an organiser and he’s no longer doing so well as a running half either. This leaves Walker’s game seemingly a bit confused. My view is that a Walker/Hutchinson combo was actually much better than a Walker/Keary combo, as is a Walker/Smith combo now.
Anyway, that’s my take on it.

[Ray Stehr]

You're a piece of shit mate. I didn't get the opportunity to respond to your BS post on the other thread before it was closed.

Farking racist carnt!

I'm not the one supporting terrorists.