The Coming Federal Election.

[ism22]

> They turned on Dutton bigtime- like it was all his fault. The most ridiculous was Andrew Bolt who said that Dutton needed to make a public stance and criticise Trump to show he wouldn't be intimidated and also something about it was a mistake not fighting culture wars. He then topped it off by blaming the Australian voters. These old geezers are really experienced at the blame game.

I heard Bill Shorten breaking it down on ABC today. He's got his ALP biases but essentially said that:

- Trump screwed it for everybody. But... if you'd asked him in Feb, Dutton was the favourite to win on a Trump-like platform. Politics can be like that.

- In hindsight, Dutton’s team mishandled the cost-of-living crisis by proposing job cuts, scrapping WFH (which saves outer suburb residents on tolls, childcare, etc.), and cutting support like nurses’ prac placement payments. At the same time, he planned massive spending on nuclear power and military aid to Israel, while reducing aid to Palestinians. The optics were clear: money was being shifted from struggling Aussies to nuclear ambitions and foreign conflicts — not a winning message for Gen Z voters focused on everyday costs.

- He was trying to appeal to 'Howard's battlers' from 1996... that is... working class ALP voters from the outer suburbs who became more conservative when they hit ~50-60. They're all either gone or in nursing homes today. Also, the outer suburbs are full of Gen Z voters (see the above para).

[ism22]

Well i was wrong bigtime about the Greens- i thought they were set to do really well and they really crashed. Even their leader Adam Bandt is struggling to hold his seat.....i wonder if Tanya Plibersek ripping him a new arsehole on Q & A on Monday night have much to do with it.

As for One Nation & Trumpets of Patriots.....LOL

Do we know how much Palmer spent on all that BS?

[Random Rooster]

Do we know how much Palmer spent on all that BS?

60 million-according to the Daily Telegraph.

Australians are a different animal to Americans. Doubt Clive will learn his lesson-his ego is bigger than his arse

[milanja]

Do we know how much Palmer spent on all that BS?

Reportedly 60million.

[King Salvo]

King Muppet is the biggest loser! At least Dutton was gracious and is now moving on.

You'd be a shite bean counter with your poor attitude towards average folk.

Master you were born a loser and nothing will ever change that.

Never mind Master keep buying takeaways and pretending you cook it -You should give Chef Mike the credit instead for re-heating at least.

Don't forget what Gordon says below - keep watching and you may learn something for once.

"You F*cking Donut, Of Course You Don't Put A Salad In A Microwave" | Kitchen Nightmares FULL EP

[SamKerrSimp]

No surprise to see King's true colours shine talking down to the working class people and seeing them as mere peasants, elitist wanker

[Rooster1908]

No surprise to see King's true colours shine talking down to the working class people and seeing them as mere peasants, elitist wanker

So what's your take on Ism crap them?

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=King Salvo;n1098506]

Oh my it's not like being a chalkie - 3 year degree and then unleashed in a class room whether capable or not of being a chalkie

Medical Degrees are 6 years ( conditional registration) then a 1 year internship in the public hospital system to obtain full registration - Then Proceed to specialist training which depending on the speciality they have been accepted into can take between 3 to 8 years.

GP's are specialist doctors who have to be across the whole medical health spectrum as they treat all common medical conditions and refer patients to hospitals and other medical services for urgent and specialist treatment..

10 or so years medical training to be competent as a GP plus continuing professional development to maintain Medical registration and RACGP Membership.

Mrs Salvo as an overseas trained Doctor had to pass the AMC ( Australian Medical Council ) 2 Exams - AMC CAT MCQ Examination and AMC Clinical Examination- then undertake the 1 year Internship in Rural Public Hospitals to obtain full registration.

Mrs Salvo was a Gynaecologist / Obstetrician in the Soviet Union but no chance of being this in Australia so she took the GP pathway.

Mrs Salvo had to undertake the GP training course in Rural Medical practices which included 2 x 3 hour exams plus doctor- patient simulations
(clinical examinations) - 13 stations - folk would present as "patients" with undisclosed medical conditions - needed to correctly diagnose this and provide the appropriate medical care etc. - could not fail even 1 of these stations.

Had to pass all these to obtain the FRACGP to work as a GP.


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Most GPs don't specialise because of the degree of difficulty, most are content to remain well paid pill dispensers. Sure, they provide an essential service but so do bus drivers.

Cuba turns out GPs at a prolific rate and if committed enough, foreign students can receive a degree free of charge provided that they contract to work for a period in the undeveloped world. But, anywhere GP training is eminently do-able. Ain't rocket science but it is certainly well above the capacity of people who are plumbers, carpenters and brickies. This bunch has lost the plot as far as their real worth is concerned. The majority are border line competent at best.

Obviously your wife is not railing against Bulk Billing, she gets a wage whatever. As usual it is the sole traders, the Med Centre investors who want more more more. This is dopey, selfish, careless greed and, hopefully, with the Howard Battler vote now in tatters, the ALP will crack down on anti social tax avoidance. I'll be doing my best to assist the ATO as we all should.

Speaking of Howard Battlers, it was hilarious to see Johnny wheeled out in a final act of desperation. A mummy like figure with a rictus grin who surely made things worse. He was the architect of tax free profit for Tradies. "It's about time we brought youse Tradies into the tent. We've been avoiding tax forever, even inventing avoidance schemes so about time youse got your snouts in the trough as well so if ya can get cash stick it in the sky rocket, we won't be checking. Don't worry about those PAYE mugs who pay their tax, they're actually our gold mine.

[Bates]

Master you were born a loser and nothing will ever change that.

Never mind Master keep buying takeaways and pretending you cook it -You should give Chef Mike the credit instead for re-heating at least.

Don't forget what Gordon says below - keep watching and you may learn something for once.

"You F*cking Donut, Of Course You Don't Put A Salad In A Microwave" | Kitchen Nightmares FULL EP

I don't know you well enough to label you a loser but what I do know based on your comments and the way you interact with others is that you're a Muppet.

King Muppet.

[King Salvo]

I don't know you well enough to label you a loser but what I do know based on your comments and the way you interact with others is that you're a Muppet.

King Muppet.

mmm we all know what you are and like to do so never mind and Chef Mike is calling you so keep them busy with reheating those takeaways.

[King Salvo]

[QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n1098568]

Oh my it's not like being a chalkie - 3 year degree and then unleashed in a class room whether capable or not of being a chalkie

Medical Degrees are 6 years ( conditional registration) then a 1 year internship in the public hospital system to obtain full registration - Then Proceed to specialist training which depending on the speciality they have been accepted into can take between 3 to 8 years.

GP's are specialist doctors who have to be across the whole medical health spectrum as they treat all common medical conditions and refer patients to hospitals and other medical services for urgent and specialist treatment..

10 or so years medical training to be competent as a GP plus continuing professional development to maintain Medical registration and RACGP Membership.

Mrs Salvo as an overseas trained Doctor had to pass the AMC ( Australian Medical Council ) 2 Exams - AMC CAT MCQ Examination and AMC Clinical Examination- then undertake the 1 year Internship in Rural Public Hospitals to obtain full registration.

Mrs Salvo was a Gynaecologist / Obstetrician in the Soviet Union but no chance of being this in Australia so she took the GP pathway.

Mrs Salvo had to undertake the GP training course in Rural Medical practices which included 2 x 3 hour exams plus doctor- patient simulations
(clinical examinations) - 13 stations - folk would present as "patients" with undisclosed medical conditions - needed to correctly diagnose this and provide the appropriate medical care etc. - could not fail even 1 of these stations.

Had to pass all these to obtain the FRACGP to work as a GP.


.................................................. .................................................. ...............

Most GPs don't specialise because of the degree of difficulty, most are content to remain well paid pill dispensers. Sure, they provide an essential service but so do bus drivers.

Cuba turns out GPs at a prolific rate and if committed enough, foreign students can receive a degree free of charge provided that they contract to work for a period in the undeveloped world. But, anywhere GP training is eminently do-able. Ain't rocket science but it is certainly well above the capacity of people who are plumbers, carpenters and brickies. This bunch has lost the plot as far as their real worth is concerned. The majority are border line competent at best.

Obviously your wife is not railing against Bulk Billing, she gets a wage whatever. As usual it is the sole traders, the Med Centre investors who want more more more. This is dopey, selfish, careless greed and, hopefully, with the Howard Battler vote now in tatters, the ALP will crack down on anti social tax avoidance. I'll be doing my best to assist the ATO as we all should.

Speaking of Howard Battlers, it was hilarious to see Johnny wheeled out in a final act of desperation. A mummy like figure with a rictus grin who surely made things worse. He was the architect of tax free profit for Tradies. "It's about time we brought youse Tradies into the tent. We've been avoiding tax forever, even inventing avoidance schemes so about time youse got your snouts in the trough as well so if ya can get cash stick it in the sky rocket, we won't be checking. Don't worry about those PAYE mugs who pay their tax, they're actually our gold mine.

Mrs Salvo was a specialist in the Soviet Union - Genealogist and Obstetrician, so it was not her fault that the AUS body told her she would have to do the same training again from scratch.

You took up teaching when even folk could be accepted into a teaching degree that failed their HSC - You need 96 plus to be accepted into medical degrees as a minimum.

How come you never applied to study for a medical degree then, since it is so easy to become a GP ?

Mrs Salvo is a mentor to OS-trained doctors going through the AUS system - we have had Indians/ Sri Lankans/ Russians / Belarusians/ Africans etc. that have stayed with us from time to time who undertook their medical degrees at Russian and Ukrainian Universities including even Mrs Salvo's old alma mate the Bukovinian State Medical University in Chernivtsi Ukraine.

Mrs Salvo receives 85% billing payments as she is self employed, but she does send a lot of these payments to her parents in Russia, who are on meagre pensions to say the least, plus her sister and brother, who are also doctors in Russian now. Her Sister is also a Genealogist and Obstetrician and her brother is a Surgeon drafted into the Russian Military for reasons you would be aware of.

Oh, my, you receive a very generous tax-free super pay-out for being a chalkie and having accumulated wealth, including building the mansion retreat in the wealthy upper class Southern Highlands, and you complain about others.

Wait and see what your Libertarians do with these "promises" as your slime greens are irrelevant.

I can see a disaster unfolding under laboring on and you and others will be reminded of it - you will be accountable in other words as much as vermin Alno and the other gang of idiot laboring on MP twats are.

[Random Rooster]

[QUOTE=King Salvo;n1098641]

Wait and see what your Libertarians do with these "promises" as your slime greens are irrelevant.

I can see a disaster unfolding under laboring on and you and others will be reminded of it - you will be accountable in other words as much as vermin Alno and the other gang of idiot laboring on MP twats are.

Albo did have a pretty good draw.....Scomo in the first election, Dutton in the second....a bit like if you got Parra and Titans in the first 2 weeks of this years competition.

Susan Ley and Angus Taylor are favorites to take over Duttons job-seriously. Im on record here as saying a strong conservative party is good for Australia but if these 2 are the best the Libs have got Albo may be in for a Penrith like premiership run.

[Random Rooster]

Sorry thats Sussan not Susan. She changed her name by deed poll because of numerology- again yes seriously

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=King Salvo;n1098499]

Can you explain what working class backgrounds are though?

It used to be folk from low-income/poor backgrounds who had a basic education and possibly left school early and were mostly employed in low-paid manual jobs and lived in council/housing commission properties.

Is this the lifestyle/ambition that laboring on want folk to aspire too?

What percentage of folk are still "working class" nowadays - even Liber Paddo can't pretend anymore that he is "working class" with his accumulated wealth and mansion retreat down in the wealthy southern highlands.


"Working Class" does not have the same indicia as in the past. Marx proposed that class depended on which side of the means of production people sat. If you didn't own or control the MOP or you had no control over working conditions you were Working Class.

I am not having a shot at you wife nor at her achievements. My target is the gouging that's going on everywhere and is labelled cost of living.

[Andrew Walker]

Sally really showing his lack of dignity once again No surprise though we saw his carry on in another thread when things didn’t go how he wanted them to.