There is the difference...

[davos]

Had Maloney not turned up in the final 20 minutes, his contract price would have crashed. His first half performance was very poor.

I thought SOH had a good game. A lot of young halfs over complicate things when they arrive onto the scene, but he kept things simple. Didn't overplay his hand and looked the goods. Plenty of room for improvement obviously but he could be anything. Can't wait to watch his development unfold.

[Rooster_6]

That was a set play, you cannot prove it wasn't. Yes they run off the halfback at training lol

Maloney cannot be put in the same category as pearce, actually maloney could have won the churchill if DCE didn't steal it. Maloney was twice the player as pearce in that GF, if u think otherwise u are deluding yourself or have no understanding of the game.

It's will be a travesty to lose genuine match winners like RTS and Maloney yet keep a choking myth like Pearce. $500,000 per yr to go missing in tight crunch games lol.

I never said Pearce was as good or better than Maloney, don't try and change my stance now cause you're losing the argument. As I said the day after the grand final if not SBW then Maloney or Moa should've been the MOTM.

I don't need to prove that it wasn't a set play, anyone who knows Rugby League and I presume you do knows that's not a set play just watching it. Sure they practice Backrowers running off a half at training, it's Rugby League 101. That doesn't make it a set play though just like SBWs offload to Maloney wasnt a set play even though they would've practiced that at numerous training sessions.

Like RR2 said you're quick to hand out blame but go missing when praise is deserved.

Pearce didn't go missing in the Grand Final and he certainly didn't go missing last year in the finals series when a few others did.

[davos]

If NSW wins this years Origin series and the Roosters take out the premiership, all the credit will go to someone else.

If QLD wins and the Roosters are eliminated in the finals series then all the blame will go to Pearce.

The guy can't win either way with some people.

I know some non-rooster fans wh blame him on the loss in game one of origin, even though Hodgkinson played like he had a blindfold on. That mis-kick for touch is going in the golden classics.

[Rooster_6]

Had Maloney not turned up in the final 20 minutes, his contract price would have crashed. His first half performance was very poor.

I thought SOH had a good game. A lot of young halfs over complicate things when they arrive onto the scene, but he kept things simple. Didn't overplay his hand and looked the goods. Plenty of room for improvement obviously but he could be anything. Can't wait to watch his development unfold.

SOH stood up big time when Maloney was faltering, I think it was one kick out on the full, 2 charged down and plenty of average ones mixed in.

Hastings kicking game was on point all game and he really took a lot of that pressure off Maloney who was then just allowed to go about what he does best. Robbo made special comment of this in his press conference.

The fact that a rookie could not only hold his own but play to a level maturity that meant his other half (the more senior player) was relieved of some of this duties and could just go about playing his own game was very impressive.

We simply don't win without Jimmy on Saturday and Jimmy isn't allowed to play his natural game without SOH showing of maturity well beyond his years and experience.

[Rocky Rhodes]

I never said Pearce was as good or better than Maloney, don't try and change my stance now cause you're losing the argument. As I said the day after the grand final if not SBW then Maloney or Moa should've been the MOTM.

I don't need to prove that it wasn't a set play, anyone who knows Rugby League and I presume you do knows that's not a set play just watching it. Sure they practice Backrowers running off a half at training, it's Rugby League 101. That doesn't make it a set play though just like SBWs offload to Maloney wasnt a set play even though they would've practiced that at numerous training sessions.

Like RR2 said you're quick to hand out blame but go missing when praise is deserved.

Pearce didn't go missing in the Grand Final and he certainly didn't go missing last year in the finals series when a few others did.

You said Maloney and Pearce were just support players, you put them in the same category. Me losing this argument? lol...u have no substance yet u think u are winning! haha.

Pearce deserves praise for what? One very good game vs the cows...that's about it for this yr so far.

Pearce was missing when the GF was in the balance. The half is there to control the show and make good decision in the game deciding moments.

No point going on, just watch the origin and watch Pearce closely if it's a tight battle and the game is in the balance. Who know's, he is due. But chances are he will choke again.

[davos]

You said Maloney and Pearce were just support players, you put them in the same category. Me losing this argument? lol...u have no substance yet u think u are winning! haha.

Pearce deserves praise for what? One very good game vs the cows...that's about it for this yr so far.

Pearce was missing when the GF was in the balance. The half is there to control the show and make good decision in the game deciding moments.

No point going on, just watch the origin and watch Pearce closely if it's a tight battle and the game is in the balance. Who know's, he is due. But chances are he will choke again.

Are you talking about the 2010 gf or the 2013 gf?

In the one against the seas eagles, we were 10 points down with 30 to go and he put guerra through for a try that turned the momentum our way.

Maloney played well also but running as a support player off sbw, was not pearce's role in the team. He was there to organize the attack, which I thought he did well. That try that guerra scored was the first time we had been in manly's 20 in ages from memory and he made the most of it with good vision.

[Rooster_6]

You said Maloney and Pearce were just support players, you put them in the same category. Me losing this argument? lol...u have no substance yet u think u are winning! haha.

Pearce deserves praise for what? One very good game vs the cows...that's about it for this yr so far.

Pearce was missing when the GF was in the balance. The half is there to control the show and make good decision in the game deciding moments.

No point going on, just watch the origin and watch Pearce closely if it's a tight battle and the game is in the balance. Who know's, he is due. But chances are he will choke again.

Yes Pearce, Maloney and others played support roles in what was a comeback lead by SBW. That's exactly what I said. As I said SBW would've been my pick but if you wanted to pick the next best (because at the time some were arguing SBWs first half negated his second half perfomance) then I thought Moa and Maloney were the best of the rest.

Pearce set up the try that started the comeback, if you think that's representative of a player who went missing then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

What happens from here on out doesn't really matter because we know you'll just rewrite the story to suit the agenda.

[2026]

If if if if.......if Pearce was a genuine match winner and not a overrated choker and cap thief then i wouldn't be having this discussion.

How many premierships and minor premierships does Pearce have to win to satisfy you? The guy is 26. Andrew Johns stated that halves hit their prime at 25 but you'll probably choose to argue with the 8th immortal.There is a strong possibility that he'll win another if not 2 more before he's done.

The fact that you can't acknowledge QLD have had a team full of once in a generation type players come through at the same time just highlights your agenda against Pearce.

There was also no Gallen, Ferguson and Hayne for game 3 back in 2013.Another piece of important information that's overlooked as it's easier to blame Pearce..Let's not forget that Maloney was also part of that campaign.He was the weak link in the defensive line that QLD targeted.

[HBK]

oh wow, Maloney is awesome because he ran a support line off SBW. Pearcey did that too in 2013 to win us the minor premiership.


Pearce is a quality player. Sure he's not Freddy or Joey, but he's in the top 5 halfbacks in the game. H

[Headless Chook]

Rocky needs to go back and watch the last 5 mins of the Broncos game to see just how 'cool' a customer Maloney can be when the game is in the balance.

[Johnny.]

I can imagine the conversation between father and son.

Jackson Hastings: I wanna follow in your footsteps.
Kevin Hastings: Do you wanna change your name to Horrie Junior? The kids can call you Hoju!
Jackson: I'll get back to you on that.

[Kingbilly]

SBW helped to get a premiership in 2013 by being big part of the people that brought an increased level of professionalism to the club.
He also helped get us a premiership in 2013 by having an incredibly high work rate.
Without these 2 factors no matter how many flashy things he did the Roosters would not have got to the GF let alone win it.

[HBK]

I can imagine the conversation between father and son.

Jackson Hastings: I wanna follow in your footsteps.
Kevin Hastings: Do you wanna change your name to Horrie Junior? The kids can call you Hoju!
Jackson: I'll get back to you on that.

you've been watching too much simpsons

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Yes he is quick - I remember the first try in the cowboys semi and the Inglis chase down in rd 26. Isn't it frustrating we have not seen him use that pace this year?

He has plenty of ability - he is the NSW half after all. But I am coming out of the closet as someone who has lost patience with him. His short kicking game is just abysmal and he is not a game winner in a tight contest. Maloney is, and he has proven that many times. Jr peaked at the end of 2014 - he looked like the potential was finally being fulfilled. That was 2014. This year he plays well as part of a team that is winning, but a game changer he is not. Not ever.

Tell me again why we are getting rid of Maloney and Pearce's place is never called into question?

I pretty much agree with your sentiments player1.

I must say though I enjoyed the article on the weekend about Pearceys mindset and attitude to life now...he is on the right track there which can only help his footy too.

[Guest]

The one great thing about Teflon is that he always generates a great debate, there is no in-between you either rate him or you don't, he is definatly more a rocks or diamond player than SKD