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  • #31
    Originally posted by roosterproud View Post
    Can anyone see the big picture. Joey is learning Kearys game and style. Adding this to Joeys bow of skills will prepare him to play along with Sams game style. If Joey is our next half he has to learn how to be one from Lukes experience. Learn from an experienced half like Sam is from Cooper.
    lets see if Luke gets a rest and Joey and Sam have a stint together
    You just don't wake up one morning as a 26 year NRL strike centre and decide you want to be a five- eighth. It's not that simple! It's a stopgap solution that will inevitably fail and force Robbo's hand.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bates View Post

      Were you just as skeptical about Cronk? Hunt is just as good. Don't be influenced by his his form at the Dragons. They are rabble! He will tear NSW apart in the upcoming SOO series. Hunt is the perfect short term solution for us.
      Hunt couldn't tie Cronks boot laces. I'll take Walker for the next 12-15 years over Hunt

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post

        Would that be the oldest halves pairing to ever win a GF together?
        Hopefully.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva View Post

          Hunt couldn't tie Cronks boot laces. I'll take Walker for the next 12-15 years over Hunt
          Unfortunately Cronk is no longer available.

          Is that Sam turnstile Walker from the Reggies you're referring too? We need an experience 7 to steer the team around park. Let's not waste another year!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bates View Post

            Unfortunately Cronk is no longer available.

            Is that Sam turnstile Walker from the Reggies you're referring too? We need an experience 7 to steer the team around park. Let's not waste another year!
            And what success has Hunt achieved so far to justify signing an aging playmaker like him for $1million plus a season?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva View Post

              And what success has Hunt achieved so far to justify signing an aging playmaker like him for $1million plus a season?
              Hunt is a current state and national representative. He can play in the halves or hooker, He is also a great bench utility/impact player. There's a shortage of quality halves and that's why they command so much.

              Hunt is 33. Cronk joined the Roosters when he was 34. I don't think his age is an issue.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bates View Post

                Hunt is a current state and national representative. He can play in the halves or hooker, He is also a great bench utility/impact player. There's a shortage of quality halves and that's why they command so much.

                Hunt is 33. Cronk joined the Roosters when he was 34. I don't think his age is an issue.
                But Cronk knew how to win games and steer a team to a premiership. His signing was always going to bring sucess. Hunt can't get his team into the finals. In the salary cap era his $1m price tag isn't warranted. I would much prefer someone like Townsend or Reynolds (hate to say it) over Hunt.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by roosterproud View Post
                  Can anyone see the big picture. Joey is learning Kearys game and style. Adding this to Joeys bow of skills will prepare him to play along with Sams game style. If Joey is our next half he has to learn how to be one from Lukes experience. Learn from an experienced half like Sam is from Cooper.
                  lets see if Luke gets a rest and Joey and Sam have a stint together
                  Correct, largely.

                  Manu is Keary's longer term replacement, although it is possible down the line that Robbo will revert to another option if it doesnt seem to be working out. I really think we need Manu to properly develop his kicking game to top knotch level though.

                  I am and always well be a massive Keary fan. An incredible player, central to our recent premierships. His own man with firm principles...the way he told off Rusty Crowe and stood up for his old toothless teammates when they wouldnt say a thing speaks volumes of the man.

                  However, if we are to face reality he has a very limited life span in the NRL from now on due to concussion issues. I think he'll retire at the end of 2024, but of course there is always the chance that could eventuate earlier if he cops a couple of nasty ones.

                  So, if/when it happens....you've got Manu, Watson, Hutch or go on the open market for someone in the No.6 jersey. I think Manu has the makings of a good 6, I think Watson is much better suited to bench utility, and I think Hutch should bulk up and aim to become a decent second rower elsewhere. As far as the open market goes, nothing gets me particularly excited aside from these who we are extremely unlikely to get (Hynes, Burton, Munster).

                  I do wonder....at a stretch....could Radley have a crack at the no.6? I think he has some of the chops there to eventually give it a shake, but certainly not the mentality/temprament. .
                  Last edited by Steakface; 05-04-2023, 11:17 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Hunt isn't the missing piece we need. Like Maloney or Cronk were. The issue we have is that our attack is full of individual superstars who are still trying to gel as a team. Once they do we will become a superstar team

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                    • #40
                      Cronk was brilliant! He was also fortunate to play for the Storm and the Roosters. 2 powerhouse we’ll run clubs that play for premierships. I honestly don’t think Cronk would’ve made much difference to the Dragons. That club is a basket case! They need an overhaul starting at the top.

                      It’s difficult for players around a timid halfback who doesn’t take control and can’t demand their attention. Players need frame work and structure so they can perform at their best. They practice within a playing system which relies heavily on the halfback to execute.

                      Sam has potential but he may need years to develop that aspect of his game.

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                      • #41
                        Hutch to 7 and we don't need walker or keary

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                        • #42
                          Robbo game me a call and said I'm playing #7 as he loves my footy brain and reckons I'll gel with the boys.

                          My distance running regime has given me the fitness. However, losing 10kg over the past 6 months leaves me a little bit lean. That said, the Inflictor texted me to say he's got my back so I'm all sweet.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Bates View Post

                            Were you just as skeptical about Cronk? Hunt is just as good. Don't be influenced by his his form at the Dragons. They are rabble! He will tear NSW apart in the upcoming SOO series. Hunt is the perfect short term solution for us.
                            No, because 1. Cronk and Hunt are not to be compared, Cronk is arguably a top 3 halfback of all time, who was coming off a grand final and a premiership. Hunt is an overpaid halfback who's only claim to fame is that he performs well at Origin every so often and almost won the most undeserving Dally M, by being the best player on a pretty crap team. 2. Walker and Manu are the halves of the future. 3. Mitchell Pearce had his chance at the Roosters and was already on the downwards as a player. 4. I can name at least 4 halfbacks with absolute certainty are better than Hunt atm, and at least another 2 that IMO are better. He is exceptionally overrated, on the wrong side of his playing career in his age, outside of a single season with the Broncos has had limited to no success at club level and will cost close to or over a million meaning we would have to release a younger, stronger player

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by FlamingRooster View Post

                              No, because 1. Cronk and Hunt are not to be compared, Cronk is arguably a top 3 halfback of all time, who was coming off a grand final and a premiership. Hunt is an overpaid halfback who's only claim to fame is that he performs well at Origin every so often and almost won the most undeserving Dally M, by being the best player on a pretty crap team. 2. Walker and Manu are the halves of the future. 3. Mitchell Pearce had his chance at the Roosters and was already on the downwards as a player. 4. I can name at least 4 halfbacks with absolute certainty are better than Hunt atm, and at least another 2 that IMO are better. He is exceptionally overrated, on the wrong side of his playing career in his age, outside of a single season with the Broncos has had limited to no success at club level and will cost close to or over a million meaning we would have to release a younger, stronger player
                              1 . They are comparable. They both tick all the boxes of a quality half. Both are/were state and national representatives.. Both command $1 million plus a season. Where they differ significantly is premierships won.. There are plenty of RL greats that have't won a premiership.

                              2 . I agree that Walker could potentially be our half in the future. I don't think he's ready yet. Manu is not a five eighth. He doesn't have the skill set. He's not a fullback. He doesn't have the motor. He is one of the games best strike centres.

                              3 Pearce's deficiency was a critical one. His decision making under pressure was poor. This effected many parts of his game and eventually wore thin with coach Robinson

                              4 Are the halfbacks you rate higher than Hunt potentially available? There's a good chance Hunt will be a free agent if the Dragons coach is sacked.

                              How much Hunt costs is irrelevant. It's pointless having a start studded team with an average halfback.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bates View Post

                                1 . They are comparable. They both tick all the boxes of a quality half. Both are/were state and national representatives.. Both command $1 million plus a season. Where they differ significantly is premierships won.. There are plenty of RL greats that have't won a premiership.

                                2 . I agree that Walker could potentially be our half in the future. I don't think he's ready yet. Manu is not a five eighth. He doesn't have the skill set. He's not a fullback. He doesn't have the motor. He is one of the games best strike centres.

                                3 Pearce's deficiency was a critical one. His decision making under pressure was poor. This effected many parts of his game and eventually wore thin with coach Robinson

                                4 Are the halfbacks you rate higher than Hunt potentially available? There's a good chance Hunt will be a free agent if the Dragons coach is sacked.

                                How much Hunt costs is irrelevant. It's pointless having a start studded team with an average halfback.
                                How are Cronk and Hunt comparable excatly? How many times has Hunt started at #7 for Qld or Aust? Cronk owned those positions. How many GFs has Hunt won? Cronk was a champion before he came to the Roosters and the best #7 in the game at the time . IMO Hunt isn't in the top 5 halfbacks atm, and has no runs on the board (besides a couple of moments of magic in a couple of QLD games).

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