Lessons Learnt

[theGman]

That is your opinion - move on

Well grasshopper.....what's your opinion on Turpin or your beloved Hutch?

Out of the 2 which one gets the utility bench spot because with Lodge and others returning in coming weeks I cannot see both in the 17.

Turpin for mine hands over! Can fill the void in the halves as well as hooker.
If we need coverage in the centres well Crichton or a back rower can do.

[HunchoRooster]

Lessons I've learnt after reading through this thread (I was busy with Easter break).

- Sam Kerr Gimp wants detailed analysis and dialogue so long as its completely in line with their opinion otherwise you are a crybaby or a moron, which is definitely not "baseless" name calling but rather acerbic wit that only those with the highest intellect like SK Gimp would understand.

- You cannot question Robbo. If you do, you may as well support another team because you are a fair-weather fan with no loyalty.

- Radley should be shot into the sun for a soft sin binning.

In all seriousness, I actually think this loss was down solely to our lack of intensity and awful ball handling. Melbourne wanted it more and completed with more discipline. Robbo wasn't to blame I think the attitude of the squad was down. Hutch is obviously a liability but Corey Allan is shocking in his own right and wouldn't have been much of an upgrade. We get Teddy back next week and therefore Hutch goes to the bench at best and is given 5 mins off the bench so we can't blame him if we lose next week.

I'm more concerned with Radley's ability as a footy player waning than I am his lack of discipline. Thought the sin binning was harsh and soft and that he gets targeted unfairly. Im worried his ball playing has gone backwards and he stifles our attack a bit. I take what Robbo says with a pinch of salt re: Radley's intelligence as he only recently compared Hutch to Aubo which is like comparing a Daihatsu Charade with a BMW.

[Eggspert]

Lessons I've learnt after reading through this thread (I was busy with Easter break).

- Sam Kerr Gimp wants detailed analysis and dialogue so long as its completely in line with their opinion otherwise you are a crybaby or a moron, which is definitely not "baseless" name calling but rather acerbic wit that only those with the highest intellect like SK Gimp would understand.

- You cannot question Robbo. If you do, you may as well support another team because you are a fair-weather fan with no loyalty.

- Radley should be shot into the sun for a soft sin binning.

In all seriousness, I actually think this loss was down solely to our lack of intensity and awful ball handling. Melbourne wanted it more and completed with more discipline. Robbo wasn't to blame I think the attitude of the squad was down. Hutch is obviously a liability but Corey Allan is shocking in his own right and wouldn't have been much of an upgrade. We get Teddy back next week and therefore Hutch goes to the bench at best and is given 5 mins off the bench so we can't blame him if we lose next week.

I'm more concerned with Radley's ability as a footy player waning than I am his lack of discipline. Thought the sin binning was harsh and soft and that he gets targeted unfairly. Im worried his ball playing has gone backwards and he stifles our attack a bit. I take what Robbo says with a pinch of salt re: Radley's intelligence as he only recently compared Hutch to Aubo which is like comparing a Daihatsu Charade with a BMW.

Fair points, JWH has seemed to have got the niggle & rubbish out of his game & is playing great & staying on the field.

Radley however hasn't caught up yet on how to stop disadvantaging his team. Then add "one of the smartest thinker" comments by Robbo then one of them is definitely taking the piss.

[mattyh]

Lessons I've learnt after reading through this thread (I was busy with Easter break).

- Sam Kerr Gimp wants detailed analysis and dialogue so long as its completely in line with their opinion otherwise you are a crybaby or a moron, which is definitely not "baseless" name calling but rather acerbic wit that only those with the highest intellect like SK Gimp would understand.

- You cannot question Robbo. If you do, you may as well support another team because you are a fair-weather fan with no loyalty.

- Radley should be shot into the sun for a soft sin binning.

In all seriousness, I actually think this loss was down solely to our lack of intensity and awful ball handling. Melbourne wanted it more and completed with more discipline. Robbo wasn't to blame I think the attitude of the squad was down. Hutch is obviously a liability but Corey Allan is shocking in his own right and wouldn't have been much of an upgrade. We get Teddy back next week and therefore Hutch goes to the bench at best and is given 5 mins off the bench so we can't blame him if we lose next week.

I'm more concerned with Radley's ability as a footy player waning than I am his lack of discipline. Thought the sin binning was harsh and soft and that he gets targeted unfairly. Im worried his ball playing has gone backwards and he stifles our attack a bit. I take what Robbo says with a pinch of salt re: Radley's intelligence as he only recently compared Hutch to Aubo which is like comparing a Daihatsu Charade with a BMW.

i think radley is sometimes better off to run more and ball play less ...we have walker, keary and teddy and joey and cheese ...rads doing to much ball play is maybe a case of to many chefs?

just an opinion.

[theGman]

i think radley is sometimes better off to run more and ball play less ...we have walker, keary and teddy and joey and cheese ...rads doing to much ball play is maybe a case of to many chefs?

just an opinion.

Agree.
Just roll the sleeves up and do your job..... the hard yards and leave the smarts up to Teddy, Luke and co.
Pretty simple game Rugba League can be.

[Sentimentinel]

Radley's there to be the link man in the middle. Something Penrith copied (from us mind you) and Yeo does a good job. I think Rads has less runs these days as we don't get many 6A's, so his quick PTB's are nullified so instead he's trying to draw in defenders allowing Keary more space on the left once he passes to him.

I think Robbo probably loses sleep thinking about game plans to avoid the clutches of Sutton and Klien, I actually think he's done very well to date, I know he's found a great balance with our ruck control and avoiding being bashed out of games with an avalanche of set restarts against us.

The 6A era has calmed somewhat, but last Thursday was a bridge too far, the first penalty was extremely innocuous which got them out of their end, then compounded by klien giving them 2 6A's on fourth tackle etc.

Our mental fortitude weakened, along with our completion rate, bad right side defense and with a few thrashings on the weekend, I was glad we stopped their momentum to only lose 28 to 8.

[Batemans Bay Rooster]

I'd swap Radley for Murray with 1 leg,1 arm & 50% less intelligence. Murray is twice the player Easley currently is. I'm in the bracket of hating what the game has come regarding late hits, shoulder charges,blokes being characters etc,but unfortunately it's the game we have. Radley despite being paid massive money is just far too dumb & immature to understand this.The hit was fine in my eyes,but reality says it just can't be done & I'd say probably only Radley & Munster are the 2 blokes dumb enough to fall for things like that.
I may be wrong,but honestly I think i could count the really good games on 1 finger that Radley has played over the last 3 seasons,he's played some ok ones on that time but nothing really outstanding. In opposition he's played at least half a dozen where he has cost us the game or put us in a vulnerable position by being brain dead. Easiest thing to do to beat us is to niggle Radley,you're guaranteeing a 1 man advantage from then on.
In his current form he's not in the top half dozen locks in the comp for mine.

I'll respectfully suggest that you'll end up eating those words. I don't disagree that Victor needs to work on some things, but if he continues to and is successful, he's the better footballer than Cameron Murray every day of the week.

[Vasco]

Agree.
Just roll the sleeves up and do your job..... the hard yards and leave the smarts up to Teddy, Luke and co.
Pretty simple game Rugba League can be.

Yep, he's most effective when running up the guts, supporting runners and doing the hard stuff.

[Thirteen]

The good think is that Melbourne, one of our threats for the title, could only beat us by 20 despite our pathetic completion rate.

[SamKerrSimp]

Where has anybody said Robbo is a bad coach?

Those with insight (and there are many on here) are critically analysing some potential weaknesses in his coaching.

That's something morons like you can't do...

Give some actual critical analysis on the weakness of Trent Robinson as a coach I would love to read it. And real analysis too not BS like “he can’t use a bench” tell me what it is about his current bench usage that’s wrong and how it needs to work properly

None of you have given any analysis on why Robinson is a bad coach or is overrated without being extremely vague like “he can’t use a bench” “he needs a superstar” “Bennett is better”

[mattyh]

critical analysis ...does shaun lane have the best head of hair in the nrl ? wish i had that head of hair

[BondiBob]

Sad but true. We used to defend him saying that he was better than Cameron Murray.

Murray is now the length of the Randwick straight ahead of him.

Don’t forget YEO Radley should be forced to watch how these two guys play and hopefully learn I have said it before he is a liability I hope Nathan Brown aims up and they should drop Radley if there is another incident

[Johnny Brass]

i think radley is sometimes better off to run more and ball play less ...we have walker, keary and teddy and joey and cheese ...rads doing to much ball play is maybe a case of to many chefs?

just an opinion.

The return of the ball playing lock has come about because the half and 5/8 split left and right on the field and only occasionally combine in the course of the match.
Murray is practically the Souths half-back when they attack in good ball positions particularly on the right edge of the field.
Most of the top teams have a very good ball playing lock and it's become a crucial part of a teams attack.
Shout out to our old club legend Isaac Liu who has taken on the role at the Titans and been terrific for them in that new found role.
With so much of the hit ups done by wingers and centres off the line its probably taken some of the runs off the lock.
No doubt they still have to be a running threat but the ball playing is a massive part of the position.

[HunchoRooster]

i think radley is sometimes better off to run more and ball play less ...we have walker, keary and teddy and joey and cheese ...rads doing to much ball play is maybe a case of to many chefs?

just an opinion.

I 100% with that opinion

[King Salvo]

If you talk about the bench it is very subjective on whom you have on it and how you use it.

Many will say the following makeup for a bench

2 Props
1 Second dummy half
1 utility player

What type of utility player do you have though - A Forward Utility or a Back Utility - be great if you had a utility that can play a range of back and forward positions such as you know who - H

Not all dummy halves need replacing as they play 80 minutes - so a second dummy half could well be an under utilised bench player - not used at all in a game

If you have a utility back as a number of commentators say you need- if no back goes down and needs replacing then that bench player may not be used in a game either

Ditto a utility forward.

HIA'a and Injuries could throw your interchange bench out as well.

I think they need to look at the bench numbers especially now with category ones

Squads are cut to 19 players - with one player named the 18th player who can be activated for 2 failed HIA's or when a player suffers a game ending injury as a result of foul play where the offender is sin binned or sent off

Why not use both these players - increase the interchange bench from 4 to 5 with the 19th player activated under the same criteria as the 18th player currently is.

5 Player Interchange bench could look like this- same number of interchanges - 8

2 Props
1 Second Dummy Half
1 Utility Forward
1 Utility Back
19th Player who can be activated under the same criteria as the current 18th player is

or

2 Props
1 Utility that can play both back and forward positions
1 Utility Forward
1 Utility Back
19th Player who can be activated under the same criteria as the current 18th player is