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Let's not get too carried away and intimidated by Penrith.
Geez, Let's get some perspective.
In the last 22 years, Easts have been in 8GFs and won 4. Weve won quite a few minor premierships, won SG Ball and Jersey Flegg GFs as well. (Against Penrith incidently which had many of their current FG players). If that's not a dynasty in a professional, salary cap era, I don't know what is.
This is not to mention Melbourne and their dynasty in the same period.
What about the Brisbane dynasty?? And they had a junior base of an entire state and no salary cap. Where are they now?
Human nature to suffer from 'recentism'.
Empires rise and empires fall. Penrith are in a purple patch atm. Respect them, but Let's not be intimidated by them.
2023..Let's hunt some Panthers.
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Originally posted by Bruce Pickett View PostLet's not get too carried away and intimidated by Penrith.
Geez, Let's get some perspective.
In the last 22 years, Easts have been in 8GFs and won 4. Weve won quite a few minor premierships, won SG Ball and Jersey Flegg GFs as well. (Against Penrith incidently which had many of their current FG players). If that's not a dynasty in a professional, salary cap era, I don't know what is.
This is not to mention Melbourne and their dynasty in the same period.
What about the Brisbane dynasty?? And they had a junior base of an entire state and no salary cap. Where are they now?
Human nature to suffer from 'recentism'.
Empires rise and empires fall. Penrith are in a purple patch atm. Respect them, but Let's not be intimidated by them.
2023..Let's hunt some Panthers.
Winners are grinners but they don't have to be cocky wankers to their opponents. Their bro carry-on is making me dislike them immensely.
One thing we can copy is to play controlled aggression & discipline. When do you see their players being sin binned or suspended for dumb play or their completion rate consistently below 70% a game.
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Originally posted by Eggspert View Post
Agree - Their good times are only as good until the next major injury or suspension to a star player.
Winners are grinners but they don't have to be cocky wankers to their opponents. Their bro carry-on is making me dislike them immensely.
One thing we can copy is to play controlled aggression & discipline. When do you see their players being sin binned or suspended for dumb play or their completion rate consistently below 70% a game.
On that note, I shall bid you all farewell..take care everyone and be happy, safe and well...enjoy the World Cup those of you watching..should be fun as a spectacle.."Be good enough to forgive people but don't be stupid enough to trust them again."
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Originally posted by weplayforprems View Post
No one is even close to them except us. If they keep being blessed by no injuries it really just comes down to player desire. They might lose one or two a year to the cap but given how dominant they are at every level it’s scary what they could do.
If you can't play 80 minute games week in week out your not going to be a real contender - you may make the finals playing 50 or so minute games but you will be found out in the finals when you come up agiants those sides that can play 80 minute games.
It was said a number of times in press conferences that they aren't playing 80 minutes but what will be done about it in pre-season for the 2023 season.
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Originally posted by redwhiteblue View Post
That's the point I was making to King Salvo.. there was no need for their players to do that...Geelong didn't do that to the Swans..classy teams acknowledge and respect their grand final opponents no matter what. I remember Jake and Boyd speaking very highly of and respectfully to our opposition. These boy band antics are very off putting..
On that note, I shall bid you all farewell..take care everyone and be happy, safe and well...enjoy the World Cup those of you watching..should be fun as a spectacle..
I hope it gets you the attention you do desperately crave.FVCK CANCER
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Originally posted by zac View Post
don't think anyone's saying penrith shouldn't have been in the top 2 lol but cowboys and cronulla ...
Some folk could then also say the Roosters had an equally soft draw as the Sharks and Cows during those 2 premiership years.
Luck of the draw as you can only play who you are scheduled to play against
Roosters Premiership years
2018 - 11 games vs other top 8 sides - 5 wins and 6 losses - 13 games against bottom 8 teams - 11 wins and 2 losses
2019 - 10 games vs other top 8 sides- 6 wins and 4 losses - 14 games against bottom 8 teams - 11 wins and 3 losses
Sharks 2022 - 9 games vs other top 8 sides - 4 wins and 5 losses - 15 games against bottom 8 teams- 14 wins and 1 loss
Cows 2022 - 10 games vs other top 8 sides - 5 wins and 5 losses - 14 games against bottom 8 teams- 12 wins and 2 losses
Penrith's Premiership Years
2021 - 12 games against other top 8 sides - 11 wins and 1 loss - 12 games against bottom 8 teams - 10 wins and 2 losses
2022 - 14 games against other top 8 sides - 10 wins and 4 losses - 10 games against bottom 8 teams - 10 wins and 0 lossesLast edited by King Salvo; 10-07-2022, 05:53 PM.
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Originally posted by redwhiteblue View Post
That's the point I was making to King Salvo.. there was no need for their players to do that...Geelong didn't do that to the Swans..classy teams acknowledge and respect their grand final opponents no matter what. I remember Jake and Boyd speaking very highly of and respectfully to our opposition. These boy band antics are very off putting..
On that note, I shall bid you all farewell..take care everyone and be happy, safe and well...enjoy the World Cup those of you watching..should be fun as a spectacle..
Why?
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Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post
Some of that, but mostly...we are rebuilding. after losing::
Frìend
Cordner
BMoz
JMoz
Maubs
Liu
Cronk
Latrell...our brilliant left centre who scored many tries, many points, and won us many games. Our "bobby dazzler Mk2" try at the end of the 2019 GF as part of our "lethal left side", for example.
Fergo 2018 GF
Napa 2018 GF
Tetevano 2018 GF
Are we really rebuilding? I don’t believe so. We might be reinventing our playing style and tactics though. But as a whole? I don’t think so.
No need.
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Originally posted by ChookMaster View Post
Despite losing all that talent and calibre.. all things considered we still have one of the strongest rosters out there.
Are we really rebuilding? I don’t believe so. We might be reinventing our playing style and tactics though. But as a whole? I don’t think so.
No need.
Radley is bouncing off opposition forwards.
Panthers lock Yeo, doesn't bounce off.
Suaali'i lets tries in down his wing.
Left centre is a problem.
We're short a prop.
Our bench needs some more size.
Our roster is strong, but to win a comp we need some x factor.
2013 we had SBW.
2018/2019 we had Cronk.Last edited by bondi.boy; 10-07-2022, 11:08 PM.
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Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post
Yes, rebuilding.
Radley is bouncing off opposition forwards.
Panthers lock Yeo, doesn't bounce off.
Suaali'i lets tries in down his wing.
Left centre is a problem.
We're short a prop.
Our bench needs some more size.
Our roster is strong, but to win a comp we need some x factor.
2013 we had SBW.
2018/2019 we had Cronk.
Yeah we are short in the prop rotation position for sure, but does that mean us as a club are rebuilding? No.
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Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post
Yes, rebuilding.
Radley is bouncing off opposition forwards.
Panthers lock Yeo, doesn't bounce off.
Suaali'i lets tries in down his wing.
Left centre is a problem.
We're short a prop.
Our bench needs some more size.
Our roster is strong, but to win a comp we need some x factor.
2013 we had SBW.
2018/2019 we had Cronk.
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Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post
Yes, rebuilding.
Radley is bouncing off opposition forwards.
Panthers lock Yeo, doesn't bounce off.
Suaali'i lets tries in down his wing.
Left centre is a problem.
We're short a prop.
Our bench needs some more size.
Our roster is strong, but to win a comp we need some x factor.
2013 we had SBW.
2018/2019 we had Cronk.
His passion, power & aggression against Will Chambers to unsettle him & ultimately IMO lose his 1st grade spot at Melbourne & his remarkable flick pass to Toops to get us home against a surging Canberra side will always be remembered.
Manu is more sliky & finesse while Lattrell is explosive power & aggression which made us have an unbelievable centre partnership.
Since he left something is definitely missing.
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Originally posted by Eggspert View Post
Lattrell was definitely our X factor in 18/19
His passion, power & aggression against Will Chambers to unsettle him & ultimately IMO lose his 1st grade spot at Melbourne & his remarkable flick pass to Toops to get us home against a surging Canberra side will always be remembered.
Manu is more sliky & finesse while Lattrell is explosive power & aggression which made us have an unbelievable centre partnership.
Since he left something is definitely missing.
Cronk was the general but Latrell was the game breaker & like you said he had explosive power & aggression, he was the X factor.
Manu & Latrell are the best centre pairing the Roosters have ever had.
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