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  • #61
    Originally posted by Thirteen View Post
    It's funny how they say in the article about the leadership group, that the players did certain activities to determine who were the natural leaders amongst the group.
    As if!
    Most of us here could have predicted that the guys named would have made the chop.
    The on field leader this year needs to be FPN. He is our most experienced forward. He needs to be the new leader of the pack.
    I've been critical of his attitude and work ethic in the past.
    2012 is a massive make or break year for FPN.
    We saw against Melbourne in 2010 how good he can be if he wants to be.
    C'MON FPN....It's time to wake up....AND FIRE UP!
    I agree with you and I hope the reports that he has been training the house down are true, because these reports seem to come out every year about players usually who have under performed the season before and usually nothing changes.. On the plus side was that he was very close to Fitzy whilst he was here and called him his mentor so perhaps his return has helped a lot.. to use another cliche it is make or break time for FPN as there is a queue to take his place.
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    • #62
      regarding the leadership group, this is the first step in placing the lunatics in charge of the asylum and is a great way to create divisions in the team. Have a Captain and a Vice Captain and that is your leadership group.. It is just a wank to make a few players feel good about themselves and serves no value.
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      • #63
        apart from the bitch fighting amounst some on here i am only hearing positives from our team. im feeling confident this year
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post
          regarding the leadership group, this is the first step in placing the lunatics in charge of the asylum and is a great way to create divisions in the team. Have a Captain and a Vice Captain and that is your leadership group.. It is just a wank to make a few players feel good about themselves and serves no value.
          Totally agree with this. The leadership group is a bunch of horseshit.

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          • #65
            But it has worked so well for the swannies....

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            • #66
              Regardless of whether a leadership group is a good or bad idea,i'm stoked that Pezz is recognized as a leader..

              He is the moral core of our football side..

              I wouldn't swap him for anyone in the comp..

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Big Arty View Post
                That is quite funny, as it was the great Jack Gibson who returned from the USA in 1974, with a questionnaire about leadership, pretty sure he pinched it from Vince Lombardi, which all the players were asked to complete & based on the results, replaced the great Ron Coote with the great Artie Beetson as captain who then went on to become the greatest club captain our great club has ever had! But I do agree that Jack wouldn't have needed to announce a leadership group, but leadership groups are not a new thing, ever since Dally Messenger every half decent team has always had a leadership group, they were the blokes who the younger guys would follow into the trenches, Ron Coote didn't need a (C) beside his name to be a leader in one of the greatest sporting teams to ever exist!
                Great post, 'leadership groups' have always been around, nowadays they're just being identified by management. I don't think it's a bad thing either given our young roster you would think there'd be a lot of tentativeness amongst the youngsters to 'step up' as they don't want to step on anyones toes.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                  Great post, 'leadership groups' have always been around, nowadays they're just being identified by management. I don't think it's a bad thing either given our young roster you would think there'd be a lot of tentativeness amongst the youngsters to 'step up' as they don't want to step on anyones toes.
                  Now the younger guys may be afraid to step on one of the leadership groups toes. It makes it worse when one of the younger guys is in the leadership group. Issues start happening when the leadership group starts creating codes of conduct, begins implementing penalties and creates distance between themselves and the rest of the squad. Natural leaders will evolve in any environment but I don't like it when it is imposed on the team like this. I call it a wankfest..
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                  • #69
                    Thanks Rooster 6, I can understand some of the older posters on here thinking it's a bit of a wank, but I don't really mind it, I don't think it will cause divisions within the playing group, as the playing group seem to be the ones who chose the 5 leaders, so they have ownership of it. Last years divisions, to my mind, were caused by Myles being in the leadership group & him letting the whole team down, by linking up with T.Carney on numerous benders etc.

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                    • #70
                      Leadership Group?????

                      They would be the 5 oldest members in the squad.

                      What activities were these blokes tested in, Who has the earliest bed time? Who needs more sleep? Who won at Bingo???

                      Every player should take ownership of their own performance and be a leader.

                      Don't get me wrong i like the PLayers in this "totally useless group" but surely a Captain, Vice Captain and mentor for the young fellas in Fitzy is all that is needed.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by melon.... View Post
                        Lets just say I can remember the strife these two got upto way back when at Marist Bros. But Pearce is smarter than most give him credit for...he keeps his head down.
                        You are kidding right?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Pass the Ball View Post
                          But it has worked so well for the swannies....
                          It has actually.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Big Arty View Post
                            Thanks Rooster 6, I can understand some of the older posters on here thinking it's a bit of a wank, but I don't really mind it, I don't think it will cause divisions within the playing group, as the playing group seem to be the ones who chose the 5 leaders, so they have ownership of it. Last years divisions, to my mind, were caused by Myles being in the leadership group & him letting the whole team down, by linking up with T.Carney on numerous benders etc.
                            Can you point out to me anywhere which identifies this as I cannot see it written anywhere.

                            edit.. found the article and here is an extract. Definitely not chosen by the players.

                            We recently went through a detailed process to determine the Leadership Group for the 2012 season.

                            The selection process was conducted in stages, firstly with all players requested to identify six key "Behaviours of a Leader". 

                            Once the six key leaderships behaviours were identified each team mate was audited based on the core behaviours and five players demonstrated "stand-out" results in the audit. 

                            These five players now form the 2012 Leadership Group:

                            Braith Anasta
                            Mitchell Aubusson

                            Martin Kennedy
                            Anthony Minichiello
                            Sam Perrett
                            Last edited by Cockadoodledoo; 01-20-2012, 03:38 PM.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by pearcesworstnightmare View Post
                              Leadership Group?????

                              surely a Captain, Vice Captain and mentor for the young fellas in Fitzy is all that is needed.
                              + 1

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Mad_Rooster_In_Hong Kong View Post
                                Haha - Braith sent me an email personally!! Nah one of those stupid mass emails the club sends.
                                Why do you say it was a "stupid mass email"? It had interesting information in it, didn't it?

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