Our line up

[Bigchook]

Right but I don't think Tupou was ever that good to begin with and Guerra has really deteriorated as a player over the past 2 seasons.

These aren't form issues these are questions about their ability. Like I said form is something that comes and goes and is temporary, when it becomes a common occourence then by definition it's not a form issue.

I can understand the argument: player x isn't good enough to be playing First Grade and needs to be dropped. I've never understood the argument that players should be dropped on form.

I agree that Tupou and Guerra shouldn't be in the side but not because they're going through a bad trot.

I understand what your saying completey and generally I would agree. But last season I feel some players were just taking the piss. Guerra above all deserved a stint in regies. Ultimately, if you have players that you know can perform well but don't and you choose not to drop them it reflects poorly on the coaching and management staff. It's their job to get a player to perform to his potential. When players perform how they did either someone gets dropped or the coach must accept alot of the blame. I think the former needed to happen last year. Too many players put their heads down when things got tough.

[roosterproud]

our extended line up. Looking like eastern suburbs has moved over the river.

mandys newest signings

Blake Green (Storm), Johnathan Wright (Warriors), Shaun Lane (Warriors), Omar Slaimankhel (Roosters), Cameron Cullen (Titans), Akuila Uate (Knights), Curtis Sironen (Tigers), Brian Kelly (Titans), Joey Lussick (Roosters), Frank Winterstein (Union), Lloyd Perrett (Bulldogs), Jackson Hastings (Roosters).

spooners for 2017

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Right but I don't think Tupou was ever that good to begin with and Guerra has really deteriorated as a player over the past 2 seasons.

These aren't form issues these are questions about their ability. Like I said form is something that comes and goes and is temporary, when it becomes a common occourence then by definition it's not a form issue.

I can understand the argument: player x isn't good enough to be playing First Grade and needs to be dropped. I've never understood the argument that players should be dropped on form.

I agree that Tupou and Guerra shouldn't be in the side but not because they're going through a bad trot.

So you don't want them in the side, but also don't want them dropped. Got it.

[Tommy Smith]

Paul Carter is capable of playing on the edge. He'd add some serious grunt and work ethic there so if Guerra or Aubs start slow I'd look to Carter to get a crack in the no.12 jersey.

[Bigchook]

So you don't want them in the side, but also don't want them dropped. Got it.

Because it's team building apparently. There's many different styles of leadership. Robbo clearly has his and he has to live and die by it. But there's also something to be said for accountability with your performances. You don't drop players after a bad game or two but players with Guerras position of qld origin player, high salary and experience in a depleted team required much more effort. Plenty of younger guys out there willing to bleed for the jersey.

[eddie]

I'm not 100% sure but I think he signed a contract extension when rts left with the expectation that he would play fullback. Latrell only got the call up at the very last minute before round 1.

I dunno, Gigantic Chook . You may be right, but it would seem odd if uncle suddenly decided to pay Fergo the motza you guessed at .
No one at the club was automaticly assuming Fergo was the answer at fullback as far as I could tell.

[eddie]

. I've never understood the argument that players should be dropped on form.
.

Say what?

[Bigchook]

I dunno, Gigantic Chook . You may be right, but it would seem odd if uncle suddenly decided to pay Fergo the motza you guessed at .
No one at the club was automaticly assuming Fergo was the answer at fullback as far as I could tell.

Fergo trained there all off season. And again I'm not 100% sure but I think that was the time he negotiated his contract extension. I'd be surprised if he was on less tbh.

[Rooster_6]

So you don't want them in the side, but also don't want them dropped. Got it.

Give me a day and I'll get it published into a picture book for you so it's easier to understand.

[eddie]

I'd be surprised if he was on less tbh.

Than 600k?
That's a lot of money, Humongous Chook.

[Tommy Smith]

Poor form is one thing; a lack of effort is another entirely.

Guerra wasn't poor last year because of 'poor form'. He simply just didn't give a shit sometimes, as evidenced by some of his pathetic efforts in defence.

A lack of effort is a droppable offence. Guerra was Nate Mylesesque circa 2011 last year. Appalling.

[bondi paul]

Poor form is one thing; a lack of effort is another entirely.

Guerra wasn't poor last year because of 'poor form'. He simply just didn't give a shit sometimes, as evidenced by some of his pathetic efforts in defence.

A lack of effort is a droppable offence. Guerra was Nate Mylesesque circa 2011 last year. Appalling.

coincidental both are queenslanders.

[redwhiteblue]

Give me a day and I'll get it published into a picture book for you so it's easier to understand.

Ok its been a day..where is it? I like a good picture book.... summer reading and all that...

[redwhiteblue]

Poor form is one thing; a lack of effort is another entirely.

Guerra wasn't poor last year because of 'poor form'. He simply just didn't give a shit sometimes, as evidenced by some of his pathetic efforts in defence.

A lack of effort is a droppable offence. Guerra was Nate Mylesesque circa 2011 last year. Appalling.

Too true Tommy. I'd rather watch an unknown battle his little heart out for our jersey instead of some overpriced Origin player who can only seem to ramp up the energy levels when it suits. The problem with dropping players is that you need someone worthwhile to take their place. I think this was Trent's quandary.