I don't care what anyone says

[milanja]

We were well below par today, but don't underestimate the role of the maggots in green.

Sharks were on top because they were offside for the entire match and allowed to get away with murder in the ruck. Fair play to the Sharks for taking advantage of refs' incompetence, but anybody who thinks it was all on the Roosters is off their head.

I watched the match just before, and every wide camera shot (not that there were too many) had the sharks pretty much back with the ref, second half i thought they were offside a few times, but unless it was more obvious at the ground, i feel the first half performance was totally due to our ineptness

[Hawkeye]

My question for the refs is why have they now chose to ignore players chasing a kick being run off the ball. A few years back it was clamped down, but now the players chasing a bomb are blatantly bumped out of the way by a defender who deliberately runs off his line to do so.

Really nullifies Toops aerial ability !

[Alan]

Dude I've looked at that and can't see what your seeing - if Bird got a touch at all it was simultaneous with Lewis. Fair try from a good attacking kick - something our guys couldn't produce in 80 minutes.

Was it this angle? From my point of view there's a clear deflection from Bird's hand and a subsequent change in trajectory of the ball.

[ROC181]

Was it this angle? From my point of view there's a clear deflection from Bird's hand and a subsequent change in trajectory of the ball.

No I think it's Lewis left hand which changes the trajectory of the ball onto his right.

[stsae]

We bombed a few certain tries. Also a couple of silly kicks when thru the hands we probably score.

Our handling was shit. Meant we had to tackle all day and were unable to build any momentum.

Most worrying was that inability to get into a grind with a dirty shitty low team who has nothing to lose.

You let us play footy and we will win every week. But if you drag us into a shitfight we lack the ability to execute and cope more often than not.

Boys gotta man up and learn to win in every situation.

Early season there is time.

[Andrew Walker]

No I think it's Lewis left hand which changes the trajectory of the ball onto his right.

Nonetheless seeing there is conjecture you have to wonder why you would not go upstairs I saw a replay at the game and thought it touched the other Cronulla players hand Rule it TRY as at 1st I thought it was but go upstairs to check like 95 percent of tries off kicks do.It is these types of incidents that have people thinking Cummins is completely bias against us

[ROC181]

Nonetheless seeing there is conjecture you have to wonder why you would not go upstairs I saw a replay at the game and thought it touched the other Cronulla players hand Rule it TRY as at 1st I thought it was but go upstairs to check like 95 percent of tries off kicks do.It is these types of incidents that have people thinking Cummins is completely bias against us

Yes you have a point there but did any of our players brought it to their attention? From watching the game on TV I saw nothing other than Lewis catching it. Had any one said something and cummins not fall owed it up then there's a reason to blame him.
Also your saying cummins is biased against us, well we hear that every week from all the refs that officiate our matches. We blew more tries in one match and more knock ons than we do in half a season today, let's look at why we couldn't complete these before blaming others factors. We stuffed it up and that's all it was.

[bondi paul]

When a team can't play to their potential in days gone by it would be a coaching problem. Seems our team has been unable to play a near 80 minute effort for some time. The talk of the historical bias since 1996 thru the lead up to the Sharks game helped the enemy that being the NRL and NRL refs to not make it so blatantly obvious by giving the Sharks penalties but countered it by allowing them to stand offside all game hence our forwards who play so shallow had no room to move.i will go back to my original comment about a team not performing to its potential which is the responsibility of the coach, coaching methods and game plans. I was at the game yesterday and the raiders game - we looked so unconvincing for a team with so much potential and were a complete rabble yesterday.

[ROC181]

When a team can't play to their potential in days gone by it would be a coaching problem. Seems our team has been unable to play a near 80 minute effort for some time. The talk of the historical bias since 1996 thru the lead up to the Sharks game helped the enemy that being the NRL and NRL refs to not make it so blatantly obvious by giving the Sharks penalties but countered it by allowing them to stand offside all game hence our forwards who play so shallow had no room to move.i will go back to my original comment about a team not performing to its potential which is the responsibility of the coach, coaching methods and game plans. I was at the game yesterday and the raiders game - we looked so unconvincing for a team with so much potential and were a complete rabble yesterday.

That's right👍

[TheLoneRooster]

The Roosters, bar a few, were pathetic yesterday. This game was like arguing with an idiot - they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
I kept waiting for the Roosters to wake up and if I didn't know better I'd say the Roosters players thought they'd win just by being on the field, with no effort required. A pathetic disgraceful effort that reminded me of 2009.

[ROC181]

The Roosters, bar a few, were pathetic yesterday. This game was like arguing with an idiot - they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
I kept waiting for the Roosters to wake up and if I didn't know better I'd say the Roosters players thought they'd win just by being on the field, with no effort required. A pathetic disgraceful effort that reminded me of 2009.

Did you see the pre match interviews even the ones a few days earlier? It was all about round 17 last year and how we lead and they beat us, and how it was Pearces nightmare, and Robbinson before the game talking about it too Blah blah blah...What happened to the team discussion? I have been unlucky to have come out of endeavour field a few times as a loser(more than usual ) at games when we were supposed to have thrashed them. I also remember many times over the last few years, even with different coaches, when we come across teams that, like the Sharks, haven't won a game or are going thru bad slumps and we're their lucky team who gives them that boost by giving them the 2 points with little effort. It's an endemic problem with this club that Im used to it like being used to expect something dumb from SKD as well as a brilliant moment from the backpacker.
I don't gave the answer and never will but I wonder if Robbo was clever enough to give them a plan B or C knowing how much of a thorn this club has been to us?
So, how many more daytime games do we still have this season? Seems we can't take the heat. 0 from 2

[bondi paul]

That's right👍

Steve McNamara - what has he offered as assistant coach since Paul Green left ?

[Monty]

We just weren't up to our normal standard last night. I do feel though, that the ref did seem to let them lie on us but was expecting our guys to get up very quickly when we made a tackle. The thing that shiit me the most last night was our line speed, we were letting them run 8 meters before we were meeting them. They were getting up the field so easily.

[stsae]

When a team can't play to their potential in days gone by it would be a coaching problem. Seems our team has been unable to play a near 80 minute effort for some time. The talk of the historical bias since 1996 thru the lead up to the Sharks game helped the enemy that being the NRL and NRL refs to not make it so blatantly obvious by giving the Sharks penalties but countered it by allowing them to stand offside all game hence our forwards who play so shallow had no room to move.i will go back to my original comment about a team not performing to its potential which is the responsibility of the coach, coaching methods and game plans. I was at the game yesterday and the raiders game - we looked so unconvincing for a team with so much potential and were a complete rabble yesterday.

80 min effort in all our 3 wins so far this season. And the Souffs loss wasn't that far off.

In fact there was plenty of effort there yesterday.

The Tardpoles had enough ball to win 3 games but the effort we put into defending was amazing.

In the end our execution was poor. Bombing tries and dropping ball.

Poor defence is a sign of lack of effort.

Poor execution can often be a sign of too much effort, more often its a sign of fatigue.

Hard to have the right gameplan to beat an inconsistent side like the Tardpoles.

And their handling, late in that game theyd made 3 errors from 37 sets. That's amazing and its exactly what they did to us last year.

They know what beats us. Slow us down, drag us into a shitfight, niggle, laydown, get in our faces and HOLD THE BALL.

They know what will frustrate us and cause us to lose our way in a game.

[davos]

80 min effort in all our 3 wins so far this season. And the Souffs loss wasn't that far off.

In fact there was plenty of effort there yesterday.

The Tardpoles had enough ball to win 3 games but the effort we put into defending was amazing.

In the end our execution was poor. Bombing tries and dropping ball.

Poor defence is a sign of lack of effort.

Poor execution can often be a sign of too much effort, more often its a sign of fatigue.

Hard to have the right gameplan to beat an inconsistent side like the Tardpoles.

And their handling, late in that game theyd made 3 errors from 37 sets. That's amazing and its exactly what they did to us last year.

They know what beats us. Slow us down, drag us into a shitfight, niggle, laydown, get in our faces and HOLD THE BALL.

They know what will frustrate us and cause us to lose our way in a game.

and don't forget the 5 m offside line they get given by cummins