Blake Ferguson WILL be at the Roosters next year.

[The Rooster Oracle]

Even when Dugan was in the shit, it was early and the Raiders were doing pretty well. Then Fergo came back and he sparked some brilliance and the Raiders were in the top 8, then he ****ed up and they plummeted. He came back again and they almost beat us. He ****ed up again and again they plummeted missing the 8. The Dugan thing didn't really come into the equation and the whole Milford situation was a different story.

I disagree with this bit. By this stage some of the senior players at the raiders were taking control and they didn't like him and wanted him gone. Plus from memory he had an injury at that time which is why he wasn't playing.

I think you are clutching at straws if you believe that Fergo single handedly destroyed the raiders this year!

From what I have been told, Furner was not well liked by the players as he was too serious all the time, he wouldn't and wouldn't allow the players to chill out at all. Also there is too much player power down at the raiders, and their playing group is fractured.

You can hardly blame Fergo for all their mess! The crap going on at the raiders wasn't helping him, which then the best thing for him was to get out.

It also wouldn't say much for the raiders if missing a center can completely derail their season, that would be a bloody ordinary excuse for them!

I am surprised at the Fergo haters on here who think that he can single handedly destroy our club. They severely underestimate how strong our club is these days with its culture, built by the new coaching set up and senior players. Not enough credit is given for this!

Sure, go back to the days of when we were coached by Anderson, Freddy and Smiffy, and Fergo would be just another clown to add to our circus. That certainly is not the case these days, I have full faith in our coaching staff and senior players to help Fergo turn himself around. He will be a tremendous asset to our club and will go on to play for Australia!!

We are going to be hunted next year, every opposition team is going to be studying us thoroughly. We are going to need to improve even more if we want to go back to back. We only just got over the line this year against womanly. It is obvious that SKD is our main weak link, it only makes sense to remove that weak link and replace him with one of the most talented players in the NRL!!

We are going to need as much attacking ability as possible to help fill the void left by SBW in 2015. Fergo will help to offset the loss of SBW, whereas SKD offers SFA in attack as he creates nothing with off loads or setting up his winger and never looks to make line breaks. Not to mention the liability he has been in defense over the past 3 seasons.

[roostersrule2]

I disagree with this bit. By this stage some of the senior players at the raiders were taking control and they didn't like him and wanted him gone. Plus from memory he had an injury at that time which is why he wasn't playing.

I think you are clutching at straws if you believe that Fergo single handedly destroyed the raiders this year!

From what I have been told, Furner was not well liked by the players as he was too serious all the time, he wouldn't and wouldn't allow the players to chill out at all. Also there is too much player power down at the raiders, and their playing group is fractured.

You can hardly blame Fergo for all their mess! The crap going on at the raiders wasn't helping him, which then the best thing for him was to get out.

It also wouldn't say much for the raiders if missing a center can completely derail their season, that would be a bloody ordinary excuse for them!

I am surprised at the Fergo haters on here who think that he can single handedly destroy our club. They severely underestimate how strong our club is these days with its culture, built by the new coaching set up and senior players. Not enough credit is given for this!

Sure, go back to the days of when we were coached by Anderson, Freddy and Smiffy, and Fergo would be just another clown to add to our circus. That certainly is not the case these days, I have full faith in our coaching staff and senior players to help Fergo turn himself around. He will be a tremendous asset to our club and will go on to play for Australia!!

We are going to be hunted next year, every opposition team is going to be studying us thoroughly. We are going to need to improve even more if we want to go back to back. We only just got over the line this year against womanly. It is obvious that SKD is our main weak link, it only makes sense to remove that weak link and replace him with one of the most talented players in the NRL!!

We are going to need as much attacking ability as possible to help fill the void left by SBW in 2015. Fergo will help to offset the loss of SBW, whereas SKD offers SFA in attack as he creates nothing with off loads or setting up his winger and never looks to make line breaks. Not to mention the liability he has been in defense over the past 3 seasons.

Maybe he wasn't the sole reason but it all stemmed from him, you underestimate the effect of him, we sign him and maybe he doesn't **** up, but lets say he does. Then it'll spread we'll be in the papers again for the wrong reasons, the teams morale will get lower and when he doesn't show up on game day it'll just get lower and lower.

I'd be okay with Fergo coming here if it wasn't at the expense of SKD or Mini, especially when one is capable of being every bit as dangerous as him and the other is our greatest ever FB and captain, not to mention a top bloke. If Robbo can get Fergo to stop being a dick he can get SKD to play like 2010.

[ROC181]

Maybe he wasn't the sole reason but it all stemmed from him, you underestimate the effect of him, we sign him and maybe he doesn't **** up, but lets say he does. Then it'll spread we'll be in the papers again for the wrong reasons, the teams morale will get lower and when he doesn't show up on game day it'll just get lower and lower.

I'd be okay with Fergo coming here if it wasn't at the expense of SKD or Mini, especially when one is capable of being every bit as dangerous as him and the other is our greatest ever FB and captain, not to mention a top bloke. If Robbo can get Fergo to stop being a dick he can get SKD to play like 2010.

One bad apple can cause the rest to rot... I think the start of our bad behaviour problems started with Mason. Not sure if Ferguson can have the same influence that Mason had but it could still cause problems HOWEVER, I am not against him being signed. Lets hope our club makes the right decision.

[roosterproud]

Mason omearly and myles then carney watts...........

[The Rooster Oracle]

Maybe he wasn't the sole reason but it all stemmed from him, you underestimate the effect of him, we sign him and maybe he doesn't **** up, but lets say he does. Then it'll spread we'll be in the papers again for the wrong reasons, the teams morale will get lower and when he doesn't show up on game day it'll just get lower and lower.

I'd be okay with Fergo coming here if it wasn't at the expense of SKD or Mini, especially when one is capable of being every bit as dangerous as him and the other is our greatest ever FB and captain, not to mention a top bloke. If Robbo can get Fergo to stop being a dick he can get SKD to play like 2010.

RR2 if I thought at all that Fergo would tear our club apart I wouldn't want a bar of him, as I always want what is best for our club. I really just can not see Fergo doing this to us. We are too strong as a club for this to happen these days!! With the coaching set up we now have, along with the great players we have these days, I can not see anything else but Fergo being a success with us!!

Fergo will be around Robbo, JT, Fitzy, SBW, Mini, Cordner, JWH, Moa etc etc, all really level headed, top shelf smart blokes. Fergo will be set being surrounded by these men, he will learn so much and benefit so much, it will bring out the best in him. A person most times is a product of their environment and Fergo has not had a good environment at the raiders, whereas he will get that with us!

You greatly seem to underestimate the incredible culture we now have at our club, and seem to keep going back to the days of when we had blokes like Smiffy, Costin, Anderson, Freddy, Mason, Bwaiff etc etc. There simply is just no comparison!!

I am more than happy for Fergo to be coming here at the expense of SKD, as I see him as our main weak link. I don't believe we would also need to lose Mini.
I strongly disagree with you about SKD being capable of being every bit as dangerous as Fergo, no way!! Fergo does a great steaming pile of crap all over SKD when it comes to talent!! You say that Robbo can get SKD to play like 2010, well Robbo did his best with him this year and he still offers SFA in attack. Robbo is a genius and got everyone of our players this year playing at their best, when it comes to SKD you can only get so much blood out of a stone. SKD was bloody ordinary at times this year and would do his usual f**k up or two in every game right up until the finals which thank f**k it seemed to stop. I will never forget the embarrassingly bad performance by him at parramatta stadium, where he was so bad he single handedly nearly cost us the game against the wooden spooners!

Fergo was able to stand out in a $hithouse raiders team this year. That takes talent. SKD often struggled this year in the best team in the comp which doesn't say much for him!

[roostersrule2]

RR2 if I thought at all that Fergo would tear our club apart I wouldn't want a bar of him, as I always want what is best for our club. I really just can not see Fergo doing this to us. We are too strong as a club for this to happen these days!! With the coaching set up we now have, along with the great players we have these days, I can not see anything else but Fergo being a success with us!!

Fergo will be around Robbo, JT, Fitzy, SBW, Mini, Cordner, JWH, Moa etc etc, all really level headed, top shelf smart blokes. Fergo will be set being surrounded by these men, he will learn so much and benefit so much, it will bring out the best in him. A person most times is a product of their environment and Fergo has not had a good environment at the raiders, whereas he will get that with us!

You greatly seem to underestimate the incredible culture we now have at our club, and seem to keep going back to the days of when we had blokes like Smiffy, Costin, Anderson, Freddy, Mason, Bwaiff etc etc. There simply is just no comparison!!

I am more than happy for Fergo to be coming here at the expense of SKD, as I see him as our main weak link. I don't believe we would also need to lose Mini.
I strongly disagree with you about SKD being capable of being every bit as dangerous as Fergo, no way!! Fergo does a great steaming pile of crap all over SKD when it comes to talent!! You say that Robbo can get SKD to play like 2010, well Robbo did his best with him this year and he still offers SFA in attack. Robbo is a genius and got everyone of our players this year playing at their best, when it comes to SKD you can only get so much blood out of a stone. SKD was bloody ordinary at times this year and would do his usual f**k up or two in every game right up until the finals which thank f**k it seemed to stop. I will never forget the embarrassingly bad performance by him at parramatta stadium, where he was so bad he single handedly nearly cost us the game against the wooden spooners!

Fergo was able to stand out in a $hithouse raiders team this year. That takes talent. SKD often struggled this year in the best team in the comp which doesn't say much for him!

Our team culture is so strong because there are no Fergo's or Carney's etc. they're all gone, why **** up the system now? You might say that players like Friend and Jennings were like Fergo and look at them now but even back 2, 3 years ago they weren't half as bad as Fergo is now off the field. He's shown time and time again that he'll **** up, even when he says he's going to change his ways, he ****s up.

Look at people like Shillington, Berrigan, Croker, Robinson they all seem to be decent club men and there were plenty of them at Canberra. He was surrounded by them and he still managed to screw up what 2,3 times?

On the field, Fergo is a much better player then SKD but SKD has heart, you don't think that after his GF performance he wont come back more confident? Especially when last off season Robbo worked mainly on defence and this one he's going to work on attack. Now SKD's defence came a long way this year, so if he can fix his defence he can easily fix his attack. If we keep SKD, I'm saying he'll be one of the most dangerous centre's in the comp in 2014, mark my words.

It's actually harder to stand out in the best team then the worst team too, the only hope the Raiders had lied in Fergo, Papalli, Fensom and Milford they all stood out, Robinson also played well but the rest were shit. In our team I can't name a player who didn't stand out, maybe Liu but that's about it.

[kurtsherlock6]

Our team culture is so strong because there are no Fergo's or Carney's etc. they're all gone, why **** up the system now? You might say that players like Friend and Jennings were like Fergo and look at them now but even back 2, 3 years ago they weren't half as bad as Fergo is now off the field. He's shown time and time again that he'll **** up, even when he says he's going to change his ways, he ****s up.

Look at people like Shillington, Berrigan, Croker, Robinson they all seem to be decent club men and there were plenty of them at Canberra. He was surrounded by them and he still managed to screw up what 2,3 times?

On the field, Fergo is a much better player then SKD but SKD has heart, you don't think that after his GF performance he wont come back more confident? Especially when last off season Robbo worked mainly on defence and this one he's going to work on attack. Now SKD's defence came a long way this year, so if he can fix his defence he can easily fix his attack. If we keep SKD, I'm saying he'll be one of the most dangerous centre's in the comp in 2014, mark my words.

It's actually harder to stand out in the best team then the worst team too, the only hope the Raiders had lied in Fergo, Papalli, Fensom and Milford they all stood out, Robinson also played well but the rest were shit. In our team I can't name a player who didn't stand out, maybe Liu but that's about it.

Very very well said RR2.

[Darkone]

Nepotism,

the Furners were the demise of the raiders

Flake had nothing to do with this although I suggest players were singled as scapegoats.

Flake is a special talent

I respect SKD, but I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for him to stuff up every time he's got the ball

I love watching FLAKE because I'm on the edge of my seat expecting him to do something EXTRA ordinary when he's got the ball.

[The Rooster Oracle]

Our team culture is so strong because there are no Fergo's or Carney's etc. they're all gone, why **** up the system now? You might say that players like Friend and Jennings were like Fergo and look at them now but even back 2, 3 years ago they weren't half as bad as Fergo is now off the field. He's shown time and time again that he'll **** up, even when he says he's going to change his ways, he ****s up.

Look at people like Shillington, Berrigan, Croker, Robinson they all seem to be decent club men and there were plenty of them at Canberra. He was surrounded by them and he still managed to screw up what 2,3 times?

On the field, Fergo is a much better player then SKD but SKD has heart, you don't think that after his GF performance he wont come back more confident? Especially when last off season Robbo worked mainly on defence and this one he's going to work on attack. Now SKD's defence came a long way this year, so if he can fix his defence he can easily fix his attack. If we keep SKD, I'm saying he'll be one of the most dangerous centre's in the comp in 2014, mark my words.

It's actually harder to stand out in the best team then the worst team too, the only hope the Raiders had lied in Fergo, Papalli, Fensom and Milford they all stood out, Robinson also played well but the rest were shit. In our team I can't name a player who didn't stand out, maybe Liu but that's about it.

I must disagree with you again, our team culture is so strong because of our new coaching set up that we had from November last year, along with new guys like SBW, LOD, Moa and Maloney. You know it yourself when you started answering your own argument of basically we have all angels now with all of the bad boys gone, by saying that blokes like Friend and Jennings are still with us. Guys like Pearce, FPN along with so many others last year didn't give much of a $hit about footy by going out on the piss as they couldn't stand Smiffy.

We have reformed bad boys at our club thanks to our new culture and Fergo will add to that as being another reformed bad boy!

You say guys like Shillo etc at the raiders are good influences on Fergo. No way, Shillo, Campo, Berrigan etc led a mutiny against Furner to get him the sack and have helped to fracture the playing group. Their team is divided thanks to these guys, so you can not begin to say that they would have been a good influence for Fergo, along with Furner who proved that he is not up to being a 1st grade NRL coach!!

I don't believe that anyone can fix SKD's attack. You either have it or you don't. Fergo has showed in a $hithouse team that he has it in spades! Imagine what he can do in a great team like ours, it would be scary and a thing of beauty!!

If SKD can't fire with the playmakers we have in our team, along with a guy like RTS outside of him, he 'NEVER' will!! Even with being the best defensive and attacking team in the comp, SKD has struggled in both departments this year!! There was no excuse for SKD to struggle, when everyone else flourished throughout the year!

Mark my words, SKD's attack will not get any better!! He is far too easy to contain in defense, he just does not look like making line breaks or setting up his winger! Fergo on the other hand is a gun, an absolute freak with huge X factor which is exactly what we are going to need in 2015 and beyond when SBW is no longer with us!!

[The Rooster Oracle]

Nepotism,

the Furners were the demise of the raiders

Flake had nothing to do with this although I suggest players were singled as scapegoats.

Flake is a special talent

I respect SKD, but I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for him to stuff up every time he's got the ball

I love watching FLAKE because I'm on the edge of my seat expecting him to do something EXTRA ordinary when he's got the ball.

Summed up beautifully Darkone!!

[stephenj]

ok i do tend to agree with oracles argument, i suppose ive got a soft spot for skid but then again we always turn over players regularly, ill miss marty too but thats life ! still waiting the return of coops?

[roostersrule2]

I must disagree with you again, our team culture is so strong because of our new coaching set up that we had from November last year, along with new guys like SBW, LOD, Moa and Maloney. You know it yourself when you started answering your own argument of basically we have all angels now with all of the bad boys gone, by saying that blokes like Friend and Jennings are still with us. Guys like Pearce, FPN along with so many others last year didn't give much of a $hit about footy by going out on the piss as they couldn't stand Smiffy.

We have reformed bad boys at our club thanks to our new culture and Fergo will add to that as being another reformed bad boy!

You say guys like Shillo etc at the raiders are good influences on Fergo. No way, Shillo, Campo, Berrigan etc led a mutiny against Furner to get him the sack and have helped to fracture the playing group. Their team is divided thanks to these guys, so you can not begin to say that they would have been a good influence for Fergo, along with Furner who proved that he is not up to being a 1st grade NRL coach!!

I don't believe that anyone can fix SKD's attack. You either have it or you don't. Fergo has showed in a $hithouse team that he has it in spades! Imagine what he can do in a great team like ours, it would be scary and a thing of beauty!!

If SKD can't fire with the playmakers we have in our team, along with a guy like RTS outside of him, he 'NEVER' will!! Even with being the best defensive and attacking team in the comp, SKD has struggled in both departments this year!! There was no excuse for SKD to struggle, when everyone else flourished throughout the year!

Mark my words, SKD's attack will not get any better!! He is far too easy to contain in defense, he just does not look like making line breaks or setting up his winger! Fergo on the other hand is a gun, an absolute freak with huge X factor which is exactly what we are going to need in 2015 and beyond when SBW is no longer with us!!

Friend and Jennings are with us because they're not complete morons like Fergo is, Friend was also "reformed" before this year and Jennings just liked to drink and he showed up to training late, I hardly call him a "bad boy". Pearce was in the exact same as Jenko and what did FPN do? Walk around with Carney one night? As much as I love Robbo and the new coaching staff it's not really hard to reform these players.

Guys like Shillo etc. stuck with Fergo and Furner for years until they got fed up with the two and mutinied, the team was divided by Fergo and Furner not Shillington, Fensom etc. as you said Furner is not a first grade coach and his biggest mistake was letting Ferguson roam free.

You said it yourself that the new coaching stuff can basically do anything, they can surely fix his attack. It's not like it's completely broken either he makes 100+ metres most games and was our equal 3rd highest try scorer this year and he does have 'it' look at 2010 he destroyed teams, Robbo can get that form back, I know it.

Even if SKD doesn't improve I'd much rather stick with Moga or Macdonald then Ferguson.

[stringaz]

Our team culture is so strong because there are no Fergo's or Carney's etc. they're all gone, why **** up the system now? You might say that players like Friend and Jennings were like Fergo and look at them now but even back 2, 3 years ago they weren't half as bad as Fergo is now off the field. He's shown time and time again that he'll **** up, even when he says he's going to change his ways, he ****s up.

Look at people like Shillington, Berrigan, Croker, Robinson they all seem to be decent club men and there were plenty of them at Canberra. He was surrounded by them and he still managed to screw up what 2,3 times?

On the field, Fergo is a much better player then SKD but SKD has heart, you don't think that after his GF performance he wont come back more confident? Especially when last off season Robbo worked mainly on defence and this one he's going to work on attack. Now SKD's defence came a long way this year, so if he can fix his defence he can easily fix his attack. If we keep SKD, I'm saying he'll be one of the most dangerous centre's in the comp in 2014, mark my words.

It's actually harder to stand out in the best team then the worst team too, the only hope the Raiders had lied in Fergo, Papalli, Fensom and Milford they all stood out, Robinson also played well but the rest were shit. In our team I can't name a player who didn't stand out, maybe Liu but that's about it.

Yea spot on I'm pulling out the mason card,

No thanks.

Go Easts.

[roosterproud]

Must be due to bring back johnathan ford soon

[Guest]

I must disagree with you again, our team culture is so strong because of our new coaching set up that we had from November last year, along with new guys like SBW, LOD, Moa and Maloney. You know it yourself when you started answering your own argument of basically we have all angels now with all of the bad boys gone, by saying that blokes like Friend and Jennings are still with us. Guys like Pearce, FPN along with so many others last year didn't give much of a $hit about footy by going out on the piss as they couldn't stand Smiffy.

We have reformed bad boys at our club thanks to our new culture and Fergo will add to that as being another reformed bad boy!

You say guys like Shillo etc at the raiders are good influences on Fergo. No way, Shillo, Campo, Berrigan etc led a mutiny against Furner to get him the sack and have helped to fracture the playing group. Their team is divided thanks to these guys, so you can not begin to say that they would have been a good influence for Fergo, along with Furner who proved that he is not up to being a 1st grade NRL coach!!

I don't believe that anyone can fix SKD's attack. You either have it or you don't. Fergo has showed in a $hithouse team that he has it in spades! Imagine what he can do in a great team like ours, it would be scary and a thing of beauty!!

If SKD can't fire with the playmakers we have in our team, along with a guy like RTS outside of him, he 'NEVER' will!! Even with being the best defensive and attacking team in the comp, SKD has struggled in both departments this year!! There was no excuse for SKD to struggle, when everyone else flourished throughout the year!

Mark my words, SKD's attack will not get any better!! He is far too easy to contain in defense, he just does not look like making line breaks or setting up his winger! Fergo on the other hand is a gun, an absolute freak with huge X factor which is exactly what we are going to need in 2015 and beyond when SBW is no longer with us!!

but... but... the NRL is corrupt!