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  • Originally posted by Bates View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me if Seibold is replaced by Matt Ballin with DCE backflipping and staying at Manly.
    I will chip in to make it happen.

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    • Originally posted by BTRD View Post

      I will chip in to make it happen.
      He has form!

      He backflipped on his Titans deal back in 2015.

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      • i'm assuming the story about sammy wearing 7 is less about what role the two halves will play and more about the roosters establishing that sammy won't be second fiddle. if we've gone off dce it could be an attempt to make it less attractive for him to come or, more likely, knock down his price

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        • Even Chad Townsend has a win against the Panthers this year and Savala terrorised the Broncos. All those wins over these elite teams for DCE but they still sit in 10th so what gives?

          Dragons beat them, Knights beat them, Titans beat them, Roosters beat them funny how we don't hear about these guys.

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          • I would love to see DCE backflip on his decision to leave Manly.

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            • Originally posted by GrubBER View Post
              Heard Mr Rothfield this morning on the radio claiming DCE will be wearing the #6 & that the club promised Walker the #7 jersey no matter what, I’m happy with this
              Numbers on the jersey don't mean much these days - I'm more keen to see where they line up on the field next season because Sammy is playing on the left side at the moment whereas Hugo is on the right ... this appears to be a bit of a lead up of what's expected next year (if DCE is coming) !

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              • https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/08/0...in-young-guns/

                It's as if I wrote it under a nom de plume
                Last edited by gragra; 08-05-2025, 02:31 PM.

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                • Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

                  Who is a better fullback in your eyes BBR, and who would you recruit to the Roosters if you could choose? Hypothetically, not talking about replacing Teddy.

                  CNK, Tommy Turbo or Ponga?
                  A very random question from you Huncho. The short answer is, none of them.

                  The longer answer is, it's highly likely that for each of them, their best days are behind them.

                  CKN is into his 9th season of NRL, Ponga his 10th season, Tom T his 11th. They've had injuries, head knocks. whatever. All really good players previously, esp Tom T. But buying them now means you're paying the overpriced final contract of the career price.

                  Now is not the time to buy any of them. The only time to buy any of them was years ago. To buy them now means you don't care that their best days are behind them, and that you're happy to pay a price based on what they've done in previous years, 5 or so years ago.

                  They're the type of players we used to buy. And that got us nowhere.

                  Now we have a pathways system and an excellent youth focus. Which is already paying dividends way above expectations.

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                  • Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post

                    A very random question from you Huncho. The short answer is, none of them.

                    The longer answer is, it's highly likely that for each of them, their best days are behind them.

                    CKN is into his 9th season of NRL, Ponga his 10th season, Tom T his 11th. They've had injuries, head knocks. whatever. All really good players previously, esp Tom T. But buying them now means you're paying the overpriced final contract of the career price.

                    Now is not the time to buy any of them. The only time to buy any of them was years ago. To buy them now means you don't care that their best days are behind them, and that you're happy to pay a price based on what they've done in previous years, 5 or so years ago.

                    They're the type of players we used to buy. And that got us nowhere.

                    Now we have a pathways system and an excellent youth focus. Which is already paying dividends way above expectations.
                    Ok fair enough don’t disagree with anything you are saying there. Perhaps I framed the question wrong. Should’ve just asked who you think the best player out of all the 3 is.

                    Point I was trying to make (I made it poorly must admit) that CNK has more Top 4 finishes than the other 2 combined despite probably being the weakest of the 3 in the key fullback position. You were making a point that DCE is a crap signing mainly because of his lack of top 4 finishes. Was trying to make the point that I think there is more to the analysis of a players ability and success than that.

                    What I will say is that DCE has probably had an indirect impact on Manly not making the Top 4 consistently as his contract along with the Turbos has taken up such a huge portion of Manlys cap that they have total duds playing around them for the most part over those years you mentioned.

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                    • Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

                      Ok fair enough don’t disagree with anything you are saying there. Perhaps I framed the question wrong. Should’ve just asked who you think the best player out of all the 3 is.

                      Point I was trying to make (I made it poorly must admit) that CNK has more Top 4 finishes than the other 2 combined despite probably being the weakest of the 3 in the key fullback position. You were making a point that DCE is a crap signing mainly because of his lack of top 4 finishes. Was trying to make the point that I think there is more to the analysis of a players ability and success than that.

                      What I will say is that DCE has probably had an indirect impact on Manly not making the Top 4 consistently as his contract along with the Turbos has taken up such a huge portion of Manlys cap that they have total duds playing around them for the most part over those years you mentioned.


                      Had to read it a few times...but I think you're saying, it's not dce' s fault that Manly have made the top eight only 4 times in the last 10 years, and the reason it's not dce's fault is. as half back and leader of the team, because he and the Turbo brothers have taken up so much cap, they only had "total duds playing around them". So it can't be his fault.

                      This is your ideology Huncho. It's flawed. No wonder I can never agree with a single thing you post.

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                      • Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post
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                        Had to read it a few times...but I think you're saying, it's not dce' s fault that Manly have made the top eight only 4 times in the last 10 years, and the reason it's not dce's fault is. as half back and leader of the team, because he and the Turbo brothers have taken up so much cap, they only had "total duds playing around them". So it can't be his fault.

                        This is your ideology Huncho. It's flawed. No wonder I can never agree with a single thing you post.
                        A single thing!!? Cmon mate surely I’m good for at least 10% success rate with my posts lol.

                        My main point is that using finals appearances as the primary stat and reason as to why DCE is not a good signing or a good player is flawed logic and a very myopic view of things. I definitely think DCE hasn’t helped himself with his price tag and has under-delivered based off the investment Manly made but his role for our club will be very different. Manly fans can judge on him that, we should judge him on what he does for us. But from my outside view looking in at that club, NO I do not think DCE is the main reason Manly haven’t had consistent success.

                        The days of DCE being a marquee are gone. If we were offering him over a million dollars a year for multiple years and moving heaven and earth to get him and make him the focal point of our attack, id say it was a terrible idea but to get a high quality player who has played 350 NRL games, 20+ Tests and 20+ Origins and captained club, state and country in for a year at a reasonable price is not bad business.
                        Last edited by HunchoRooster; 08-05-2025, 05:10 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

                          A single thing!!? Cmon mate surely I’m good for at least 10% success rate with my posts lol.

                          My main point is that using finals appearances as the primary stat and reason as to why DCE is not a good signing or a good player is flawed logic and a very myopic view of things. I definitely think DCE hasn’t helped himself with his price tag and has under-delivered based off the investment Manly made but his role for our club will be very different. Manly fans can judge on him that, we should judge him on what he does for us. But from my outside view looking in at that club, NO I do not think DCE is the main reason Manly haven’t had consistent success.

                          The days of DCE being a marquee are gone. If we were offering him over a million dollars a year for multiple years and moving heaven and earth to get him and make him the focal point of our attack, id say it was a terrible idea but to get a high quality player who has played 350 NRL games, 20+ Tests and 20+ Origins and captained club, state and country in for a year at a reasonable price is not bad business.
                          If we get him for say $750K-$800K (I can't see him accepting less) and he plays as bad or even inferior to how he is playing today (which is big possibility) would Robbo drop him to NSW Cup like he did Chad?
                          It is a massive risk to have a $750K player in NSW Cup. We wouldn't be able to offload him like we did Dom.
                          The risk reward is not there for me. His game management has not been there this year. His general play has been shit. He would take too much cap space and Hugo offers similar qualities in kicking and defence. He has only played with Sammy once and did a great job playing along side Sandon. He would get even better with a pre-season alongside Sammy.
                          I am happy for DCE to replace Cronk as the halves coach but nothing more.

                          FFS

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                          • Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

                            If we get him for say $750K-$800K (I can't see him accepting less) and he plays as bad or even inferior to how he is playing today (which is big possibility) would Robbo drop him to NSW Cup like he did Chad?
                            It is a massive risk to have a $750K player in NSW Cup. We wouldn't be able to offload him like we did Dom.
                            The risk reward is not there for me. His game management has not been there this year. His general play has been shit. He would take too much cap space and Hugo offers similar qualities in kicking and defence. He has only played with Sammy once and did a great job playing along side Sandon. He would get even better with a pre-season alongside Sammy.
                            I am happy for DCE to replace Cronk as the halves coach but nothing more.

                            FFS
                            I just cannot get my head around the DCE scenario.

                            Walker/Savala combo is the way to go. Hugo is rock solid in defence, has a game winning long kicking game (which apart from genuine pace is Sam's major weakness), he has a deep connection to the roosters, and he's bound to improve.

                            Whatever Nick may have agreed to, if it's his conscience bothering him (and that's a head scratcher for me too when it's a billionaire businessman - you just don't acquire that wealth by being a nice guy to everyone), then give him a coaching job that doesn't eat into our cap. or get him to pick up glasses in the club for $1.5 million per year - no rules would be broken.

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                            • Nick may pay DCE not to play should the contract be signed and offset it with an employee salary and shares in AP Eagers.

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                              • Another terrible DCE performance

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