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Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post
Getting beaten by a try by the 3 time reigning premiers can never be an embarrassment. The embarrassment is you Les Miserable.
Penrith are not as strong as last year … when they were not as strong as the year before … when they were not as strong as the year before … we have made no ground on them despite losing no players of note … they have lost a bucketload of quality … they are either juicing or are superbly coached … we are obviously neither
If you’re not embarrassed … even for Robbo … then clearly you have no shame
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Originally posted by The Real King View Post
Not talking about salary cap or how many years it took someone to win a premership.
What I said was imagine if Cleary, Bellamy or Bennett had our current team what we could achieve.
Bellamy gets average players and turns them into superstars. No one can deny that.
Bennett's team last year was put together with band-aids and rubber bands and managed to upset many teams including us. That is all on the coach.
Ivan Cleary doesn't get superstars given to him by Uncle Nick, Cleary coaches and develops players.
All 3 coaches seem to get the best out of their players. Does Robbo get the best out of his players?
Not sure how green the grass is, all I know is we have the best squad on paper and we buy all the best players and if either of those 3 was our coach we would be doing a lot better.
Our spine isnt in the top 4 in the game, you can't name our starting second rowers because we still haven't found them, we've got 4 competent first grade wingers but only 1 and a half centres and three 5/8's competing for the halves pairing.
The squad lacks balance, on no measure is it the best squad in the competition.
Robinson has to own part of that as he would have a big say on the make up of his squad but we need to stop pretending we have got the best squad in the competition. Its an illusion.
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Originally posted by zac View Postcleary's done a great job over the last few years but, even more than robbo, he was hit in the arse by a rainbow. what did he have to show for his more than 300 games as head coach before he had such an array of talent?
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Originally posted by Eggspert View Post
Bit of a long stretch to think Cleary simply got parachuted into a role where he had to do not much or have minimal impact.
Every club has a certain culture & systems in place that coaches create. Players dont train & develop themselves.
I started to think Robbo was losing it when he said Hutch was much loved & valued & was the new Aubo then soon after punted him to the dogs.
Fair dinkum, comparing Hutch to a one club legend like Aubo, think about that for a second.
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
It just isn't the best squad on paper though.
Our spine isnt in the top 4 in the game, you can't name our starting second rowers because we still haven't found them, we've got 4 competent first grade wingers but only 1 and a half centres and three 5/8's competing for the halves pairing.
The squad lacks balance, on no measure is it the best squad in the competition.
Robinson has to own part of that as he would have a big say on the make up of his squad but we need to stop pretending we have got the best squad in the competition. It’s an illusion.
We clearly have the strongest squad in rugby league this year … anything short of a premiership will be a lost season … which is why I am quite irate after the debacle on Thursday
Last year … we had the strongest squad but the difference was not as pronounced … fine margins
The previous year … we had the strongest squad in my opinion but it was a coin toss
Prior to that? no … Penrith were clearly the strongest … no complaints
I am not the one swimming against the tide of public opinion here … far from it … but regardless … if you don’t agree just remember what our captain… the NSW captain … the Australian captain … perhaps the greatest player of his generation … had to say … we have indeed underachieved these last few years
I appreciate when our coach comes out with the mea culpas … but best he does something about it … because we will not be the strongest in the near future … generational players like Sonny Bill and Cronk and Tedesco who can win a middling coach a premiership don’t grow on trees
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View PostAnd has been for a number of years
Cleary absolutely owns Robbo … that’s 10 in a row … and can even roll out a team loaded with reserve graders and still beat us on our home turf … embarrassing really
People want to know why Penrith are so good? they are superbly coached … always play smart and at 100% no matter who is in their lineup … much like Melbourne
We on the other hand have a soft boiled egg as a coach … all the stars (and we always have plenty of those) have to align for us to do anything of note
I will give Robbo some credit … he is a superb recruiter … but it’s all a ruse … as a football coach he is barely above average on a good day
Coach Cleary and his team, since rugba leeg was born in 2020, have seemingly been the beneficiary of rose coloured glasses refereeing, while Coach Robinson and his team have had no such luck, but rather have seemingly been subjected to circus music and streamers refereeing.
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
For the record Rooster 6…
We clearly have the strongest squad in rugby league this year … anything short of a premiership will be a lost season … which is why I am quite irate after the debacle on Thursday
Last year … we had the strongest squad but the difference was not as pronounced … fine margins
The previous year … we had the strongest squad in my opinion but it was a coin toss
Prior to that? no … Penrith were clearly the strongest … no complaints
I am not the one swimming against the tide of public opinion here … far from it … but regardless … if you don’t agree just remember what our captain… the NSW captain … the Australian captain … perhaps the greatest player of his generation … had to say … we have indeed underachieved these last few years
I appreciate when our coach comes out with the mea culpas … but best he does something about it … because we will not be the strongest in the near future … generational players like Sonny Bill and Cronk and Tedesco who can win a middling coach a premiership don’t grow on trees
You really do type alot of words without saying much or addressing the points being made.
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
For the record Rooster 6…
We clearly have the strongest squad in rugby league this year … anything short of a premiership will be a lost season … which is why I am quite irate after the debacle on Thursday
Last year … we had the strongest squad but the difference was not as pronounced … fine margins
The previous year … we had the strongest squad in my opinion but it was a coin toss
Prior to that? no … Penrith were clearly the strongest … no complaints
I am not the one swimming against the tide of public opinion here … far from it … but regardless … if you don’t agree just remember what our captain… the NSW captain … the Australian captain … perhaps the greatest player of his generation … had to say … we have indeed underachieved these last few years
I appreciate when our coach comes out with the mea culpas … but best he does something about it … because we will not be the strongest in the near future … generational players like Sonny Bill and Cronk and Tedesco who can win a middling coach a premiership don’t grow on trees
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
Simply having Tedesco makes us the best squad?
You really do type alot of words without saying much or addressing the points being made.
Okay … let’s start … you said we have no second rowers … Crichton is the standing Australian backrower … a superb footballer … so excuse my French but wtf are you talking about?
Why downgrade our obvious talent?
Sorry to spoil the narrative but these have been wasted years mate … and it ain’t gonna get better in the years going forward … this coach absolutely needs to may hay while he has a loaded squad at his disposal
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
For the record Rooster 6…
We clearly have the strongest squad in rugby league this year … anything short of a premiership will be a lost season … which is why I am quite irate after the debacle on Thursday
Last year … we had the strongest squad but the difference was not as pronounced … fine margins
The previous year … we had the strongest squad in my opinion but it was a coin toss
Prior to that? no … Penrith were clearly the strongest … no complaints
I am not the one swimming against the tide of public opinion here … far from it … but regardless … if you don’t agree just remember what our captain… the NSW captain … the Australian captain … perhaps the greatest player of his generation … had to say … we have indeed underachieved these last few years
I appreciate when our coach comes out with the mea culpas … but best he does something about it … because we will not be the strongest in the near future … generational players like Sonny Bill and Cronk and Tedesco who can win a middling coach a premiership don’t grow on trees
fullback, top 3 in the game still.
wingers, most clubs would take Dom as their winger
centers, every club would take Manu
5/8 and halfback, they probably wouldn’t feature in the top 6 halves combos in the comp
frontrowers, easily top 3 rotation in the comp
hooker, not a top 6 dummy half in the comp
second rowers, way down the pecking order
lock, top 4 in the comp.
so out of 9 positions, we are solid in 5, but overall we are missing consistent halves,hooker and 2nd rowers.
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
What is beyond stale is losing to the same ****ing team 10 times in a row … even when they roll out a ****ing load of reserve graders onto our ****ing home turf in ****ing prime time
Is that a better tone?
This team has been in a moribund state for the last 3 years despite being the most loaded in league … it is poorly coached … when that changes I will write you something flowery
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Originally posted by milanja View Post
I look at the squad pretty objectively
fullback, top 3 in the game still.
wingers, most clubs would take Dom as their winger
centers, every club would take Manu
5/8 and halfback, they probably wouldn’t feature in the top 6 halves combos in the comp
frontrowers, easily top 3 rotation in the comp
hooker, not a top 6 dummy half in the comp
second rowers, way down the pecking order
lock, top 4 in the comp.
so out of 9 positions, we are solid in 5, but overall we are missing consistent halves,hooker and 2nd rowers.
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Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post
You want me to appraise our entire lineup? but I should also mind the keystrokes?
Okay … let’s start … you said we have no second rowers … Crichton is the standing Australian backrower … a superb footballer … so excuse my French but wtf are you talking about?
Why downgrade our obvious talent?
Sorry to spoil the narrative but these have been wasted years mate … and it ain’t gonna get better in the years going forward … this coach absolutely needs to may hay while he has a loaded squad at his disposal
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