This team is poorly coached

[Les Tricolores]

I see both sides of the argument on this one. Robbo has certainly not evolved since the introduction of the 6 again. We have far too much fluctuation between our best and worst performance and many people are right. Some of the losses we've had in the last 2 years have been putrid and inexcusable for the powerhouse club we are. The losses to Dogs after they hadnt won a game, Saints on the buzzer last year, the Souffs hit job from a few years ago. Would never happen to Bellamy or Cleary (nowadays). The variation and element of 'what sort of side will show up today?' is always there. I think it's because Robbo likes to tinker with things, and also to play a certain way that invites variation into our game. The others don't do that.

Thats why I still find it a thrill to watch our side play under him when he gets it right... we can absolutely blitz teams. The 2018 GF 1st half was the end of the Storm grind style for a while. Penriff brought it back in 2020-2021. It's up to Robbo to find the tonic again. At the moment, he is failing dismally at it. What I liked to hear though was Robbo's self admission and criticism of himself where he put his hand up and said he wasn't making the right calls in 2022 and 2023. Thats a good attitude. He is a man of high character. Now though, he needs to back it up and show the change.

It is only Rd4. We wouldn't be guaranteed to win a comp if we beat Riff by 30 the other night so we shouldn't panic yet with a single digit loss where there were some awful calls against us. We have many many months to improve. I am willing to give Robbo and the squad time to prove that. We all should be as fans. I admit if I see another 6th or 7th place finish where we look like world beaters one week and then look like a park team who have met eachother in the car park before kick off I will think the external blowtorch will start to be applied to Robbo. Rightfully so. We've had our transitional years, now it's time for the action. The squad is there.

At the end of the day though , he lives and breathes the Roosters. He wants us to succeed. He is paid to find a way for us to succeed but isn't a mercenary. We are in safe hands, albeit very stubborn hands that may need some more self reflection.

Well said Huncho … always measured and sensible

[Les Tricolores]

Not talking about salary cap or how many years it took someone to win a premership.
What I said was imagine if Cleary, Bellamy or Bennett had our current team what we could achieve.

Bellamy gets average players and turns them into superstars. No one can deny that.
Bennett's team last year was put together with band-aids and rubber bands and managed to upset many teams including us. That is all on the coach.
Ivan Cleary doesn't get superstars given to him by Uncle Nick, Cleary coaches and develops players.
All 3 coaches seem to get the best out of their players. Does Robbo get the best out of his players?

Not sure how green the grass is, all I know is we have the best squad on paper and we buy all the best players and if either of those 3 was our coach we would be doing a lot better.

Spot on King … would have to go back 4 seasons to find a time when we exceeded expectations

[Random Rooster]

Not talking about salary cap or how many years it took someone to win a premership.
What I said was imagine if Cleary, Bellamy or Bennett had our current team what we could achieve.

Bellamy gets average players and turns them into superstars. No one can deny that.
Bennett's team last year was put together with band-aids and rubber bands and managed to upset many teams including us. That is all on the coach.
Ivan Cleary doesn't get superstars given to him by Uncle Nick, Cleary coaches and develops players.
All 3 coaches seem to get the best out of their players. Does Robbo get the best out of his players?

Not sure how green the grass is, all I know is we have the best squad on paper and we buy all the best players and if either of those 3 was our coach we would be doing a lot better.

I cant agree for all the reasons i outlined in my post- so we just have to agree to disagree.

Incidentally Wayne Bennett at the Broncos and Souths left the tactics and style of play to Jason Demetriou - Bennett was more involved in managing players. Would you swap Robbo for Demetriou? Bennett and Bellamy are giving it away after this year- Cleary has signed on till 2027 at Penrith- Who would be your top 3 coaches we would target???

[Les Tricolores]

FM Les you started this thread then posted the same shit in the same thread 48 more times. Do you think we didn't get it the first 47 times ffs?
Have you got any concerns on Brandon Smith, wanna know how Lewis is going, thoughts on Sandon, see how the Va'a brothers are going, want to know how our future players are performing in the junior and senior results or even call Ray an idiot.
You love the sound of your own voice ffs.

Victor if I have to reiterate the gist of the post it’s because I’m responding to different people who wish to discuss … it’s called having a conversation … and is considered good manners … something you clearly lack

If you don’t like the content of what’s being said go read something else … or start up your own thread about how Robbo founded the Roosters in 2013 and he is the bestest coach ever and we should all be grateful to him while he wastes the last years of some of our all time great players … it would be a riveting read I’m sure

[Eggspert]

Cleary signed an ageing Josh Reynolds to a $3 million dollar contract at the tigers. Think about that for a minute. That is the kind of coach he is with without the panthers juggernaut behind him. Just an average coach who got very lucky to be in the right place at the right time.

Bit of a long stretch to think Cleary simply got parachuted into a role where he had to do not much or have minimal impact.

Every club has a certain culture & systems in place that coaches create. Players dont train & develop themselves.

I started to think Robbo was losing it when he said Hutch was much loved & valued & was the new Aubo then soon after punted him to the dogs.

Fair dinkum, comparing Hutch to a one club legend like Aubo, think about that for a second.

[Eggspert]

Only Nick Politis can change the coach. He has already stated that while he is chairman Robbo will be coach. He also said that he will remain as chairman indefinitely. When he says something he means it-always.

So everyone can go ahead and have their say about Robbo, but if the thought of him staying on as coach for another decade is too much to accept, if the reality of the situation really weighs you down, then i would consider following another team and save yourself the angst of complaining about a situation that you have zero control over.

I'm sure Nick Politis has become this successful in life by making hard tough business decisions when he needed to & leaves warm fuzzy emotions out of it.

Pretty sure Robbo wont get another 10yrs if there's more of the same as the last 3-4 years with a cracking roster.

The Roosters top job isn't to be taken for granted for & not a cushy mates job.

[mattyh]

the concerning thing for me the other night despite a 6 point loss I saw no distinctive style to combat penriths high energy style .

I'm not sure I see a distinct style of play when we play these days , we used to have the bondi wall , back in the 02 to 04 teams we had the rushing defence .

it helps when a team has a distinct style , penrith do , I think the wahs do with webster, melbourne, im just not sure we do currently , we're flamboyant and it looks great when it comes off, but when it's not coming off do we have a stay of play we can revert back to ?

I trust robbo , I think he is agood coach , I'll let him off for 2021 when he had all the injuies ,but last year we should have been higher on the ladder even if we came home with a wet sail .

[Lydon]

Not talking about salary cap or how many years it took someone to win a premership.
What I said was imagine if Cleary, Bellamy or Bennett had our current team what we could achieve.

Bellamy gets average players and turns them into superstars. No one can deny that.
Bennett's team last year was put together with band-aids and rubber bands and managed to upset many teams including us. That is all on the coach.
Ivan Cleary doesn't get superstars given to him by Uncle Nick, Cleary coaches and develops players.
All 3 coaches seem to get the best out of their players. Does Robbo get the best out of his players?

Not sure how green the grass is, all I know is we have the best squad on paper and we buy all the best players and if either of those 3 was our coach we would be doing a lot better.

100% spot on!

[Vasco]

Of course we will be up there you clown … that’s no revelation … we have the most stacked roster in league … and have had for a couple of years … the coach is average … and these are wasted years … Tedesco and Manu will soon be gone

You ask others to stay classy while you call others a clown.

Classy.

I get the negativity, but you only seem to surface when the Roosters lose.

[Les Tricolores]

You ask others to stay classy while you call others a clown.

Classy.

I get the negativity, but you only seem to surface when the Roosters lose.

The stay classy comment was a reference to the user’s handle in case you were unaware

I am super polite … particularly compared to a few troglodytes here … but if people want to exchange banter I’m more than happy to return serve

And I said nothing outlandish … it was a clownish comment … we are going to be up there this year? of course we are … this is the most stacked squad in league … the Allianz janitor could coach this team into the finals

We need to win it all this year … because the window is fast closing … we are not going to be the most talented side in league forever

[Jacks Fur Coat]

The stay classy comment was a reference to the user’s handle in case you were unaware

I am super polite … particularly compared to a few troglodytes here … but if people want to exchange banter I’m more than happy to return serve

And I said nothing outlandish … it was a clownish comment … we are going to be up there this year? of course we are … this is the most stacked squad in league … the Allianz janitor could coach this team into the finals

We need to win it all this year … because the window is fast closing … we are not going to be the most talented side in league forever

I think Souths are looking at the Allianz janitor, so he may not be available.

[Billy Gunn]

No coach wins 3 premierships if they are a bad coach. The first game he had them primed to kick off the year well and we cut out the simple errors, completed high and beat one of the favorites.

Than round 2 and we go back to dropping the ball and giving away a thousand penalties and lose when we score the same number of tries with 40 percent possession. Round 3 off a 5 day turnaround they give everything for JWH and play unbeatable.

I think we were spent for the game against the premiers both physically and mentally . We should have been flogged given the number of errors we made. I believe it's tough to make a call either way on the coaching.

[Batemans Bay Rooster]

He's a very sad individual poor old Les Miserable. He's gotten to the point now where his hatred of Robbo has overtaken his desire for he club to actually win games. He legitimately hopes we lose, just so he can bag Robbo. When you think about it, that's a pretty sad farkin state to be in. But he's there. Plays his stupid game of constantly overrating us, and underrating every opponent, just so he can come on here and bag Robbo. Every win we have was against a shit side that we should have beaten, every loss we have was against a shit side that we should have beaten. Why don't you do yourself a favour Les, and find a team that you can actually support. One that has a coach that you like. One where you can at least be happy when they win. I reckon you'll feel a lot less miserable. You obviously can't keep going the way you are.

[Les Tricolores]

I think Souths are looking at the Allianz janitor, so he may not be available.

Lol … cheers for the good laugh

[Les Tricolores]

He's a very sad individual poor old Les Miserable. He's gotten to the point now where his hatred of Robbo has overtaken his desire for he club to actually win games. He legitimately hopes we lose, just so he can bag Robbo. When you think about it, that's a pretty sad farkin state to be in. But he's there. Plays his stupid game of constantly overrating us, and underrating every opponent, just so he can come on here and bag Robbo. Every win we have was against a shit side that we should have beaten, every loss we have was against a shit side that we should have beaten. Why don't you do yourself a favour Les, and find a team that you can actually support. One that has a coach that you like. One where you can at least be happy when they win. I reckon you'll feel a lot less miserable. You obviously can't keep going the way you are.

Lol … you thinking out loud again?

I support the Roosters not the coach … there’s a big difference … I suggest you do the same

I recall you accused me of not supporting our players last year … and now you say I overrate them … make up your mind

That was nothing but an embarrassment the other night … your mealy mouthed response was to blame Keary’s inclusion for the loss … while the opposition were missing their most important player? absurd take

You’re a hopeless sycophant who doesn’t understand what’s at stake these days … a major transition is coming and mid table beckons … you have to make hay while the sun shines