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  • #16
    Originally posted by fletch View Post

    If the likelihood of playing finals is done before Walker is healthy to return there is the possibility they hold him back and not risk that weakened ACL again this season.
    See you next year Sam; enjoy the off season.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by fletch View Post

      If the likelihood of playing finals is done before Walker is healthy to return there is the possibility they hold him back and not risk that weakened ACL again this season.
      Wouldn't surprise. There doesn't seem to be much information around grade 1 ACL tears, seems to be a rare injury, most athletes just do the full rupture (grade 3) so makes sense if they approach it with ultra precaution.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post

        He is a long way off, he was limping noticeably on Saturday night. I would put his comeback at months, not weeks. A surgeon is not required to let you know if you are ready for play. You see a surgeon to see if you need surgery.
        sure but seems like he's going to be playing sooner rather than later according to robbo in today's presser

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

          Wouldn't surprise. There doesn't seem to be much information around grade 1 ACL tears, seems to be a rare injury, most athletes just do the full rupture (grade 3) so makes sense if they approach it with ultra precaution.
          Being a Hawks fan in the AFL saw one this year with big forward Mitchell Lewis doing it during the preseason on January 24th and wasn't fit to play until April 29th which as I posted in another thread made me very suspicious of the early reporting of Walker only missing a few weeks.

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          • #20
            I was told most probably by rd20, possibly earlier but just depends on how he recovers.

            So could be back for the Storms game at the SCG so hope we can jag a few wins by then or else it’s too late
            Last edited by GrubBER; 06-16-2023, 06:20 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
              Robinson also said his return to firsts is "injury based" and that "once he's ready he'll be in".

              Seems to suggest the Manu experiment is over and that once Sam Walker is ready he'll be back in Firsts.
              Yep makes you wonder about rumours of him lunching with other clubs' officials. Sounds like it was just an old fashioned dropping to reserve grade.
              Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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              • #22
                amputated his leg but doing ok .. he said he doesnt need it as he doesnt tackle anyway ...
                Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by The Brain View Post
                  amputated his leg but doing ok .. he said he doesnt need it as he doesnt tackle anyway ...
                  Simply not true . It was his penis they removed as with all young bloke its what he has been thinking with and effecting his reserve grade performance .

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                  • #24
                    I know I’m probably jumping the gun before Sandon even plays a full 80 minutes but I really can’t wait for walker to be back. I can’t wait for someone to actually pass the ball other than keary.

                    I also really liked Sandon coming on in hooker 2 weeks ago. Even in his small amount of minutes he had the vision to push Teddy out of the way and set a try up on the right edge.

                    As a key board coach surely our best team moving forward would be
                    1. teddy
                    2. toups
                    3. billy smith
                    4. manu
                    5. suaalli,
                    6. Keary
                    7. walker
                    8. jwh
                    9. Brandon smith
                    10. collins
                    11. one of the butchers
                    12. Sittili
                    13. victor
                    14. Sandon smith
                    15. The other butcher
                    16. Crichton
                    17. race between;
                    Brown, Lodge, May, Whyte, Watson

                    Pauga unlucky to miss out but Suaalii was probably the best winger in 2022.

                    but in saying that we will probably see Hutch in the centres, victor in the halves, manu in lock and any other weird out of positions robbo can think of.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GC6 View Post
                      I know I’m probably jumping the gun before Sandon even plays a full 80 minutes but I really can’t wait for walker to be back. I can’t wait for someone to actually pass the ball other than keary.

                      I also really liked Sandon coming on in hooker 2 weeks ago. Even in his small amount of minutes he had the vision to push Teddy out of the way and set a try up on the right edge.

                      As a key board coach surely our best team moving forward would be
                      1. teddy
                      2. toups
                      3. billy smith
                      4. manu
                      5. suaalli,
                      6. Keary
                      7. walker
                      8. jwh
                      9. Brandon smith
                      10. collins
                      11. one of the butchers
                      12. Sittili
                      13. victor
                      14. Sandon smith
                      15. The other butcher
                      16. Crichton
                      17. race between;
                      Brown, Lodge, May, Whyte, Watson

                      Pauga unlucky to miss out but Suaalii was probably the best winger in 2022.

                      but in saying that we will probably see Hutch in the centres, victor in the halves, manu in lock and any other weird out of positions robbo can think of.
                      I’m not certain that either of the Butchers are better than Brown, May, Whyte, Baker, Lodge TBH.

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                      • #26
                        Robbo did a press conference yesterday and said basically:

                        - He's back and out of the moon boot but when you're in a moon boot for that long you lose strength/stability so he's building that up again first.

                        - When fit he will return, there are no questions about his form.

                        ---

                        Seeing him in the locker rooms helping everybody out while injured, my reckoning is that his form was never bad, he simply rubbed a few senior players the wrong way and was being taught a lesson in respect.

                        My only lingering worry is that this happens every time we're down on form and have a young half (or even when we were doing alright with Flanno at 7!) It feels as though when we lose and a you g half raises his voice above seniors to say 'guys that was shyte, your opinions are dated, what we need is some more creativity' there's a few players who take it personally. They then work the hierarchy to crush the junior half... junior half gets dropped for arguing back... somebody who's inferior in the halves then has to awkwardly step-in and fill the gaping hole.

                        It reminds me of the old book 'Billy Bunter Does His Best' where a fat, clumsy guy ends up replacing a gun player who rubbed the captain the wrong way. The captain is then begged to let the better player back in but persists with saying 'what sorta captain would I be if I let him play?!?!? Nope. He had his chance and blew it... I'd rather play Billy Bunter than have him in my squad'. This is great when it's a novel (and Manu's no Billy Bunter). However, IMO the whole thing never shoulda happened. We need to work on getting you g halves to gel better with senior players (and I dunno which ones, but JWH publicly blasted Walker so y'know... maybe him!) as there isn't always a Cooper Cronk available.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                          Robinson also said his return to firsts is "injury based" and that "once he's ready he'll be in".

                          Seems to suggest the Manu experiment is over and that once Sam Walker is ready he'll be back in Firsts.
                          So it took Robbo about 10 weeks longer then the rest of us to work this out....why?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                            Robbo did a press conference yesterday and said basically:

                            - He's back and out of the moon boot but when you're in a moon boot for that long you lose strength/stability so he's building that up again first.

                            - When fit he will return, there are no questions about his form.

                            ---

                            Seeing him in the locker rooms helping everybody out while injured, my reckoning is that his form was never bad, he simply rubbed a few senior players the wrong way and was being taught a lesson in respect.

                            My only lingering worry is that this happens every time we're down on form and have a young half (or even when we were doing alright with Flanno at 7!) It feels as though when we lose and a you g half raises his voice above seniors to say 'guys that was shyte, your opinions are dated, what we need is some more creativity' there's a few players who take it personally. They then work the hierarchy to crush the junior half... junior half gets dropped for arguing back... somebody who's inferior in the halves then has to awkwardly step-in and fill the gaping hole.

                            It reminds me of the old book 'Billy Bunter Does His Best' where a fat, clumsy guy ends up replacing a gun player who rubbed the captain the wrong way. The captain is then begged to let the better player back in but persists with saying 'what sorta captain would I be if I let him play?!?!? Nope. He had his chance and blew it... I'd rather play Billy Bunter than have him in my squad'. This is great when it's a novel (and Manu's no Billy Bunter). However, IMO the whole thing never shoulda happened. We need to work on getting you g halves to gel better with senior players (and I dunno which ones, but JWH publicly blasted Walker so y'know... maybe him!) as there isn't always a Cooper Cronk available.
                            When Walker comes back into the team, he must “own” it and he must run the attack. Not Keary, not Tedesco, not Manu, not Radley. The senior players have to accept that or piss off IMHO. That’s the only way he will become the dominant half that they want him to be.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Steggles View Post

                              When Walker comes back into the team, he must “own” it and he must run the attack. Not Keary, not Tedesco, not Manu, not Radley. The senior players have to accept that or piss off IMHO. That’s the only way he will become the dominant half that they want him to be.
                              Before walker got dropped you could see he was getting frustrated that he was not getting back up for any of the things he was trying.
                              He was always being targeted in defence, and he showed plenty of guts,
                              he should have had more support there too.
                              Lockyer probably missed more tackles that most halves, but the Broncos put a minder next to him in Tonie Carroll, who smashed anyone who can near him and Lockyer hard.
                              If you have a brilliant young half like Walker you have to support him.
                              Yes i can see how he would have ruffled some feathers by speaking up, and Radley should have kept his mouth shut, what an A grade moron he is.
                              I would have expected more from JWH than to bag the young bloke, maybe it was frustration,
                              maybe Teddy felt Walker was disruptive to his leadership..... which hasn't been anything great by the way,
                              The coach fukked up, lets hope he has learnt a lesson
                              Lets hope they have all learned something,
                              leave your fukkin ego in the dressing room, and play for the TEAM
                              Last edited by NorfolkStreetKid; 06-17-2023, 11:32 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Rooster90 View Post

                                So it took Robbo about 10 weeks longer than the rest of us to work this out....why?
                                Yes that’s the worrying part.

                                Also hence why many supporters on here are starting to question his decisions..

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