Are our forwards hard enough?

[King Salvo]

He forgets that they're wearing Red, White and Blue and what that means to most fans. Earning $500k plus a year to go out and give 100%.

Yes Fans vs Supporters - A big difference

Fans are notoriously fickle and the Roosters do have the most fickle fans in the League - Supporters- Support through thick and thin.

Which players aren't giving 100% though ?

[Eggspert]

JWH, Collins, Lodge, Toupanoua, Radley, Angus & the Cheese.

The Butcher's lack grunt but are toilers & should compliment the others.

That *should* be a top 4 pack easily IMO

It's the backs & our coach who've sunk this season. There's no points in us at all which is reflected in our +/-.

Robbo/staff had the entire off season to prepare especially after we finished last year racking up points. Who ever is involved with our backs & attack this year should be thrown out the door at seasons end.
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[Random Rooster]

I'm a believer in forwards win matches.....and when they aren't firing they lose matches. This year opposition teams are making easy yardage up the centre- straight away putting the halves and backs on the back foot.

I dont know why or how to fix it but until we start dominating the centre of the field things won't turn around

[rented tracksuit]

I remember last year when you were saying you had more pump and get up and go than particular Roosters forwards and were quickly put back in your box over it.

If Bates say's they are a collective pack of pussies then they should be game enough to put this theory to the test.

I think it's fair enough when making such a statement.

Are you referring to yourself again?

[ism22]

Calling a NRL player a pussy is farking ridiculous IMO.

Anyone who runs onto that field has my respect.

All things are comparative IMO. There's players who I have zero respect for.

[Batemans Bay Rooster]

Calling a NRL player a pussy is farking ridiculous IMO.

Anyone who runs onto that field has my respect.

It's just poor Bates showing how clueless he is. Bag players' ability fine, but to call NRL forwards pussies - Bates you are a moron

[Bates]

I'm a believer in forwards win matches.....and when they aren't firing they lose matches. This year opposition teams are making easy yardage up the centre- straight away putting the halves and backs on the back foot.

I dont know why or how to fix it but until we start dominating the centre of the field things won't turn around

100% correct. The 6 again hasn't changed this aspect of the game!

[Bates]

It's just poor Bates showing how clueless he is. Bag players' ability fine, but to call NRL forwards pussies - Bates you are a moron

You've let yourself down there mate!

You are aware that forwards often call their opposition "pussies" when they're not having a dig or when they're being dominated? It's part of the game.

[Bates]

Yes Fans vs Supporters - A big difference

Fans are notoriously fickle and the Roosters do have the most fickle fans in the League - Supporters- Support through thick and thin.

Which players aren't giving 100% though ?

Fans and supporters are the same thing.

I think you mean fair weather fan vs Fan/Supporter.

The only forward that's performing atm is the big dog. The others are like little puppies following their dad around the park.

[Bates]

You can make the following into a screen saver / wallpaper perhaps

Enjoy

They belong in Hollywood.

[rented tracksuit]

Plenty ...here is my first thouight since the 6 again thing started the good sides have atackler around the legs first then blokes on top or over the top we are still tackling old style ...have a look at the top side carefully and you will see what I mean thats just one thing...Coaching staff not good enough this year ..Head coach is ignorant of what is needed .Has developed a big head and ignores probable advice ... that usually happens when they think they are now better than the rest..You cant really fix this team right now...we could be heading into a rut that will take a few years to get out of... There were a few decent players on the market and we grabbed all budget lemons

Well said.

[morley101]

Time to put Crichton and Tupouniua on the edges and put Nat Butcher at lock for the first 20 mins and Egan to the bench this week.

[Headless Chook]

Plenty ...here is my first thouight since the 6 again thing started the good sides have atackler around the legs first then blokes on top or over the top we are still tackling old style ...have a look at the top side carefully and you will see what I mean thats just one thing...Coaching staff not good enough this year ..Head coach is ignorant of what is needed .Has developed a big head and ignores probable advice ... that usually happens when they think they are now better than the rest..You cant really fix this team right now...we could be heading into a rut that will take a few years to get out of... There were a few decent players on the market and we grabbed all budget lemons

I watched every game on the weekend and did not notice that at all. First contact is up around the ball unless the defender is not square to the attacker. There is always a defender coming in around the legs but I would dispute this being the first contact on the majority of occassions as you have suggested

[Batemans Bay Rooster]

You've let yourself down there mate!

You are aware that forwards often call their opposition "pussies" when they're not having a dig or when they're being dominated? It's part of the game.

Only in your head

[The Brain]

I watched every game on the weekend and did not notice that at all. First contact is up around the ball unless the defender is not square to the attacker. There is always a defender coming in around the legs but I would dispute this being the first contact on the majority of occassions as you have suggested

By tying up the legs first you already have slowed down any attempt of a quick play the ball. The game has got quicker last few years the rules are more stricked.Hence you had a few coaches doing and teaching the hip drop...only few were accidental ...This was the major low slow up play move and like everyother tackle rulbreaker out their you can attribute that to Bellamy and Melbourne .