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  • Labor is back in front of the Independent by the teeniest of margins in my electorate and counting continues on. It’s so close the lead changes every day.

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    • The Green primary vote held up, the problem was, in Brandt's case, preferences and the Libs preferencing Labor in his electorate. The wider problem was them (Greens) being seen in the eyes of the generally unsophisticated polity, as siding with the Tories against Labor in the parliament.

      Greens are largely ex ALP voters who are dark on the conservatism of the modern ALP, especially on its tardiness re Climate Warming measures and the US "alliance". Their intention in joining the Greens is to attempt to force Labor more to the Left but their hearts are still with basic Labor principles and for them, even a tame cat ALP is way more preferred than the Right. The Greens played hard ball for far too long and their reasons for that, though commendable, were seen as unnecessary and contributing to the Libs/Sky "do nothings" tag.

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      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
        The Green primary vote held up, the problem was, in Brandt's case, preferences and the Libs preferencing Labor in his electorate. The wider problem was them (Greens) being seen in the eyes of the generally unsophisticated polity, as siding with the Tories against Labor in the parliament.

        Greens are largely ex ALP voters who are dark on the conservatism of the modern ALP, especially on its tardiness re Climate Warming measures and the US "alliance". Their intention in joining the Greens is to attempt to force Labor more to the Left but their hearts are still with basic Labor principles and for them, even a tame cat ALP is way more preferred than the Right. The Greens played hard ball for far too long and their reasons for that, though commendable, were seen as unnecessary and contributing to the Libs/Sky "do nothings" tag.
        Would you care to add anymore on response to your good friend Jaxxxx claiming the Greens failure to win a seat as some sort of moral or small victory
        When you trust your television
        what you get is what you got
        Cause when they own the information
        they can bend it all they want

        John Mayer

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        • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
          The Green primary vote held up, the problem was, in Brandt's case, preferences and the Libs preferencing Labor in his electorate. The wider problem was them (Greens) being seen in the eyes of the generally unsophisticated polity, as siding with the Tories against Labor in the parliament.

          Greens are largely ex ALP voters who are dark on the conservatism of the modern ALP, especially on its tardiness re Climate Warming measures and the US "alliance". Their intention in joining the Greens is to attempt to force Labor more to the Left but their hearts are still with basic Labor principles and for them, even a tame cat ALP is way more preferred than the Right. The Greens played hard ball for far too long and their reasons for that, though commendable, were seen as unnecessary and contributing to the Libs/Sky "do nothings" tag.
          the greens got overly ambitious. their 'job' is to prosecute intelligent environmental policy (whatever that is - i don't know) free of what's politically doable. and when that policy is ignored their job is to cheerfully try and improve what is seen as politically doable. in style they should go for more gandhi and less lenin

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          • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

            Would you care to add anymore on response to your good friend Jaxxxx claiming the Greens failure to win a seat as some sort of moral or small victory
            I want to know what happened to his " We stand with the Jewish Community" signature. It disappeared at the same time Sky News Australia put that issue in the back seat after trying to use it as a platform to launch the "Dutton tough when it comes to law" image

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            • Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

              I want to know what happened to his " We stand with the Jewish Community" signature. It disappeared at the same time Sky News Australia put that issue in the back seat after trying to use it as a platform to launch the "Dutton tough when it comes to law" image
              I suspect people realised that it was a veiled way of saying 'we stand against muzzies and will illegally deport them all, Trump style with him laughing "haaaw haaaw haaaw love it, you're worse than us!!!" like we did last time we were in power'.

              Dutton's voice of division is gone. Labor's got a massice majority now. Alex Dalgeish farcically arranged that stupid cabinet meeting where he promised a killer policy announcement at the end... then said 'aaaw yeah, the other night I realise that this will all be over in a few months' in an attempt to rally the troops. Don't ask me how I know Dutton's ex chief of staff but his and Dutton's jobs are two efficiencies that I'm comfortable with

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              • jacinta price making a play to be the alternative pm ...

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                • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                  I suspect people realised that it was a veiled way of saying 'we stand against muzzies and will illegally deport them all, Trump style with him laughing "haaaw haaaw haaaw love it, you're worse than us!!!" like we did last time we were in power'.

                  Dutton's voice of division is gone. Labor's got a massice majority now. Alex Dalgeish farcically arranged that stupid cabinet meeting where he promised a killer policy announcement at the end... then said 'aaaw yeah, the other night I realise that this will all be over in a few months' in an attempt to rally the troops. Don't ask me how I know Dutton's ex chief of staff but his and Dutton's jobs are two efficiencies that I'm comfortable with
                  Nobody thought the attacks against the Jewish community were ok. Everyone thought the dickheads responsible needed to be caught and dealt with to the full extent of the law. Yet Dutton and Sky went on and on about Albo and Labor letting down the Jewish community. Any attacks against any community as some sort or retribution for what is happening overseas is something all Aussies wont put up with- that sort of bs is for America not us

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                  • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
                    Bandts gone! Labor takes seat of Melbourne. But don't break out the shampoo too soon...there is talk of his successor. Hanson-Young or that Farouqi woman. I guess the issue is the Party itself. Yet is heartening to see Aussies push back against their special brand of crazy. Credit to Advance Australia, they ran a strong anti=Greens campaign to shine a light on them.
                    What a shame the slime green general secretary lost his seat - Anyone that votes Slime Green is delusional

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                    • Originally posted by caz View Post

                      the greens got overly ambitious. their 'job' is to prosecute intelligent environmental policy (whatever that is - i don't know) free of what's politically doable. and when that policy is ignored their job is to cheerfully try and improve what is seen as politically doable. in style they should go for more gandhi and less lenin
                      Slime Greens are wanna be Marxist-Leninists - Mrs Salvo laughs at their so called Marxist-Leninist views being USSR born and living there to just after the collapse of the USSR when the whole Commo façade fell apart big time.

                      Imagine being paid in bottles of Vodka instead of money. - that happened and was wide spread. - The so called "Shock Therapy" Economics - Money run out and shops were virtually empty.


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                      • Still plenty of Adam Bandt posters stuck to fences and poles around here on the streets of Carlton Melbourne and no one has defaced any yet.

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                        • Side note Dutton looks super happy now. I think I might even be able to see a few little hairs growing on his head.

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                          • Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                            Side note Dutton looks super happy now. I think I might even be able to see a few little hairs growing on his head.
                            good luck to him. i didn't like his hard ball political tactics but he had qualities that, say, scott morrison, didn't.
                            bill hayden was the qld cop who would have made a good pm

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                            • Originally posted by caz View Post
                              jacinta price making a play to be the alternative pm ...
                              She wouldn't have got elected on a straight Lib ticket.You're treating voters with contempt when you go to a election, gets re-elected and then changes party a week later

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                              • Speaking of the above....just came across this


                                https://www.9news.com.au/national/na...6-337784577e0d

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