The Bunker is killing the enjoyment of the game.

[King Salvo]

The decision making still has the human element though - if the technology is available then by all means use it to assist in the decision making process

Different to some other sports where humans are not always making all the decision - cricket for an example - Hawke Eye/Ultra Edge and in the future Baseball with the ABS ( Automated Ball and Strike Electronic System) that will be calling balls and strikes - the ball or strike call will be relayed to Main Umpire( behind the plate) - virtually instantaneous).

That will take away the theatre of Batters/ Pitchers/Managers arguing over perceived bad calls with the Main Umpire and Players/Managers being thrown out of the game by any of the umpires.

Who can they argue with then over any perceived bad calls on balls and strikes.

It's being trialled in Triple A with the proposed introduction of the System in MLB in 2024.

[ism22]

IMO it's setup in a very defensive manner where you can either kill or award tries/penalties by saying the evidence is inconclusive.

Anusley's only excuse is that they have lotsa angles that nobody else can see. Sure. Get it. However, IMO this raises more questions than it answers, including why they can rule based on tightly held 'inconclusive evidence' when they are aware that viewers have an angle that looks conclusive. It's almost as if they can pick and choose which angle to rule and purposely say 'I dunno' rather than giving a clear yes or no.

[The Axe]

This lots of angles stuff that only the bunker can see is BS. Why are they solely allowed to view such angles? Why are they never shown to the fans that pay to watch or attend games? Why? Because they don’t exist. It’s BS. This has only become the narrative in recent weeks. Has anyone ever seen a non Fox or ChNein camera at a ground????
like the integrity unit that is only ever activated when something makes front page news.

It hurts that they treat us as idiots…or are we for believing without questioning?

[Bates]

Watching the Sharks v Cows game A forearm to the head and a high contact incident. Both placed on report but no sin bin.
Radley or JWH would’ve been marched for less

inconsistent bias mugs.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

This lots of angles stuff that only the bunker can see is BS. Why are they solely allowed to view such angles? Why are they never shown to the fans that pay to watch or attend games? Why? Because they don’t exist. It’s BS. This has only become the narrative in recent weeks. Has anyone ever seen a non Fox or ChNein camera at a ground????
like the integrity unit that is only ever activated when something makes front page news.

It hurts that they treat us as idiots…or are we for believing without questioning?

Your right Axe they don't have some racing equivalent of "stewards" footage. Just the broadcaster vision.

The kicker though is whether the producer withholds footage from the public broadcast that is available to the bunker. Shouldn't happen in the interests of transparency but I fear sometimes it may.

[Qld Chook]

The Bunker AND Judiciary are honestly both a joke.

How Dylan Walker got off that head slam suspension is deadset laughable. Rads/JWH would’ve got 4 weeks easy.

Katoa would’ve missed two games (plus half the match against the warriors) had the storm not had the bye this round due to the 11 day HIA stand down.

[roosterchook]

The game is over administrated which kills the free flowing aspect. Fans want to see two sides battle out the result but more often than not it’s a ref influenced result. I subscribe to Kayo but hardly ever use it now because games are too full of penalties, sin bins and HIA’s. It used to be a man’s game. It’s fast degenerating to touch footy.

[nayfo]

This lots of angles stuff that only the bunker can see is BS. Why are they solely allowed to view such angles? Why are they never shown to the fans that pay to watch or attend games? Why? Because they don’t exist. It’s BS. This has only become the narrative in recent weeks. Has anyone ever seen a non Fox or ChNein camera at a ground????
like the integrity unit that is only ever activated when something makes front page news.

It hurts that they treat us as idiots…or are we for believing without questioning?

Yvonne Sampson was on the big sports breakfast yesterday morning and confirmed there is no special hidden cameras that the bunker see’s. They have the exact same images that we see at home.
only difference is that they have access to every angle at once so they can make a decision quicker.

[Nathan Aboud]

The concern with the Bunker is not the technology, it is the human factor, and it is the two most experienced officials in the game today who are making these howlers!!!! Sutton & Klein fail both on the field and in the bunker as well.

The solution is simple, get Jared Maxwell into the Bunker ONLY!!!! He is the referee's boss, he knows the rules inside out and yet there will be consistency week in week out... If an official has to go through to the Bunker then that should be a negative on their performance reports as they should be in the position to make a call (like every referee had to be in for the past 100 years) and yet determines which grade they referee each week.

It's only a suggestion on how we will get consistency as if they are not getting it right on the field, then they should not be in the bunker as they even get it more wrong....

[Headless Chook]

Whenever they talk about access to different camera angles I think back to the game v Bronx in 2010. Folau gets across the line and in trying to ground the ball, it appears to roll free. The ref has no idea and the video ref watches all these angles which show absolutely no evidence of what happened to the ball so they award a try. I can still remember Laurie Daley being in commentary and saying that on the law of averages they had to rule it a try and Brandy was equally effusive saying it was a stupid decision. Low and behold after the try is awarded, a new camera angle appears showing Folau losing the ball cold!!!

[HunchoRooster]

I genuinely believe the standard of NRL officiating is the amongst the worst in elite sport anywhere in the world. Not only are there instances where they get the basics of the game wrong on a regular basis, they made a "crackdown" for all of 3 weeks a couple years back that saw 10-20 players get binned for inocous contact only to reverse it a few weeks in and return to the norm based off negative outcry despite it being the same home and away season where results were already impacted by shoddy sin bin decisions. Try doing that in another sport.

They also fail to protect players despite them overscrutinising every new buzzword tackle technique. Take the "hip drop" for example. I think we saw a blatant one on SST against Souffs a number of years back where he did his knee and missed either the rest of the season or a key finals game for us and it wasn't even penalised. But now guys miss 5 weeks for doing similar tackles. Then we see Haas injure RCG to where he is expected to miss a decent amount of time and despite 2 FARRKING SIN BINS in the previous 20 mins that the refs could use as a sample case for far less incidents, they don't even penalise.
Tohu Harris going off with an MCL/ACL injury last week, ref doesn't stop the game for a minute and eventually the play almost interferes with the trainers trying to help him from the field. Radley and Finucane getting sin binned for accidental head clashes... the 6 again rule increasing fatigue and therefore increasing the probability of concussions. I could go on and on.

It gets to a point that you have to question how people can be so bad at their job yet continue to stay in it. Maybe its the entertainment factor that is more important than the competitive sport factor. I don't blame the refs so much as I do the admin side and that absolute waste of skin Anusley. How can refs get a handle of the game when they are told to change decisions and implement 2 week rule changes into their performances. It comes down to the NRL being incompetent and worrying about ratings and how the game looks to the casual fan. Some refs don't help themselves but its largely down to management IMO.

[milanja]

Your right Axe they don't have some racing equivalent of "stewards" footage. Just the broadcaster vision.

The kicker though is whether the producer withholds footage from the public broadcast that is available to the bunker. Shouldn't happen in the interests of transparency but I fear sometimes it may.

The one thing I like about horse racing with most bookies, is that they will payout on the horses that lost the protest if they crossed the line first.

NSW TAB have yet to adopt this which is frustrating.

[Steggles]

I genuinely believe the standard of NRL officiating is the amongst the worst in elite sport anywhere in the world. Not only are there instances where they get the basics of the game wrong on a regular basis, they made a "crackdown" for all of 3 weeks a couple years back that saw 10-20 players get binned for inocous contact only to reverse it a few weeks in and return to the norm based off negative outcry despite it being the same home and away season where results were already impacted by shoddy sin bin decisions. Try doing that in another sport.

They also fail to protect players despite them overscrutinising every new buzzword tackle technique. Take the "hip drop" for example. I think we saw a blatant one on SST against Souffs a number of years back where he did his knee and missed either the rest of the season or a key finals game for us and it wasn't even penalised. But now guys miss 5 weeks for doing similar tackles. Then we see Haas injure RCG to where he is expected to miss a decent amount of time and despite 2 FARRKING SIN BINS in the previous 20 mins that the refs could use as a sample case for far less incidents, they don't even penalise.
Tohu Harris going off with an MCL/ACL injury last week, ref doesn't stop the game for a minute and eventually the play almost interferes with the trainers trying to help him from the field. Radley and Finucane getting sin binned for accidental head clashes... the 6 again rule increasing fatigue and therefore increasing the probability of concussions. I could go on and on.

It gets to a point that you have to question how people can be so bad at their job yet continue to stay in it. Maybe its the entertainment factor that is more important than the competitive sport factor. I don't blame the refs so much as I do the admin side and that absolute waste of skin Anusley. How can refs get a handle of the game when they are told to change decisions and implement 2 week rule changes into their performances. It comes down to the NRL being incompetent and worrying about ratings and how the game looks to the casual fan. Some refs don't help themselves but its largely down to management IMO.

Spot on

[The Axe]

Yvonne Sampson was on the big sports breakfast yesterday morning and confirmed there is no special hidden cameras that the bunker see’s. They have the exact same images that we see at home.
only difference is that they have access to every angle at once so they can make a decision quicker.

exactly. So therefore this new narrative is BS. Don’t trust what you are told. There is no new angle for Radley. The bunker cut away (deliberately?) too soon on Collins no try.
own up to it NRL. The only way to hold NRL accountable is to question what they tell you

[Mickie Lane]

It’s the slow mo that is the most frustrating.
Things should be judged on normal speed.
The try last night to Jessie Ramien is a try every day of the week at normal speed.