Teflon Update

[BUDDY]

I can't believe there are so many people who don't see what the plan is behind the 50m spiral bomb to the corner. With the 7 tackle sets on dead ball restarts now its dangerous to try and put the ball in goal and try to pin the attacker. It can also get the opposition set off on the right foot if we try the long low kick to the corner and it doesn't find space. Those types of kicks generally mean that the attacking team pick up an easy 10-20m before the defenders can reach them. The spiralling kicks to the corners mean the player has to wait and then catch the ball (in Farrell's case last night he didn't even manage that) giving the defence time to chase hard and pin the catcher the moment he gets hold of the ball. In effect, the attacking team ends up with a 5 tackle set against a set defensive line because they have had to burn a tackle catching the ball. It is a percentage play designed to enable our defence to restrict their go forward and hopefully have them kicking from 40m out from their own line

Some also mention why we got tackled on the last on a few occasions. Same principal. We ran the ball instead of putting in a kick. If we score well and good. If not, they start their set a few metres out in the corner.

[Thirteen]

I like Pearce.
None of you were complaining about him late last year.
He had a bad night last night. He always gives 100%.
Bugger you all!

[player 1]

Some also mention why we got tackled on the last on a few occasions. Same principal. We ran the ball instead of putting in a kick. If we score well and good. If not, they start their set a few metres out in the corner.

The bomb in the corner and getting tackled on last near the line tactics are fine. Makes perfect sense.

[roostersrule2]

The bomb in the corner and getting tackled on last near the line tactics are fine. Makes perfect sense.

Running it on the last when you're 10-15m out is a great play IMO.

Little risk and there can be a lot of reward.

[eddie]

Pearce divides opinion.
I'm not a Pearce-basher , but I don't think he's the answer to halfback and captain.
He's a good footballer, but lacks in crucial areas, given the important role he's taken on.
When push come's to shove, it would be better off if he takes a backseat to whoever his halves partner is.
PS.
I understand the value of the spiral bomb tactic under these current stupid rules, but feel we overuse it, and our chasers seem to be just a tad too far away most the time.

[novice chook]

Pearce is a great defender and he is fast. He also passes and kicks well, mechanically. He is a nice guy.

He is not a playmaker. He is not a decision maker. He is not the type of sportsman in whom pressure brings out his best.

It would be interesting to test his market value with clubs looking for a half.

I think you would find that Pearce would be offered top dollar - most halfbacks are let alone a premiership winning one. Look at what the myth Sandow got a few years ago. There is always a club desperate enough to pay overs for a half, as there aren't many good ones on the market.

Mind you I doubt that Pearce will ever actually be on the market - I suspect he will be a one club player like his old man. He's always been looked after and don't see that changing in future. Many will disagree but I reckon the club did the right thing years ago by pinning their faith in Pearce rather than that sook Soward.

[Arties Pie]

[QUOTE=Headless Chook;n608387]I can't believe there are so many people who don't see what the plan is behind the 50m spiral bomb to the corner. With the 7 tackle sets on dead ball restarts now its dangerous to try and put the ball in goal and try to pin the attacker. It can also get the opposition set off on the right foot if we try the long low kick to the corner and it doesn't find space. Those types of kicks generally mean that the attacking team pick up an easy 10-20m before the defenders can reach them. The spiralling kicks to the corners mean the player has to wait and then catch the ball (in Farrell's case last night he didn't even manage that) giving the defence time to chase hard and pin the catcher the moment he gets hold of the ball. In effect, the attacking team ends up with a 5 tackle set against a set defensive line because they have had to burn a tackle catching the ball. It is a percentage play designed to enable our defence to restrict their go forward and hopefully have them kicking from 40m out from their own line[/QUOTE

Toeing it over the sideline does the same thing, but very rarely does he do it, Friend has been known to but very rarely Pearce from memory. Not talking about 40/20 but a kick over the 10m side line for set defence.

[Headless Chook]

[QUOTE=Arties Pie;n608454]

I can't believe there are so many people who don't see what the plan is behind the 50m spiral bomb to the corner. With the 7 tackle sets on dead ball restarts now its dangerous to try and put the ball in goal and try to pin the attacker. It can also get the opposition set off on the right foot if we try the long low kick to the corner and it doesn't find space. Those types of kicks generally mean that the attacking team pick up an easy 10-20m before the defenders can reach them. The spiralling kicks to the corners mean the player has to wait and then catch the ball (in Farrell's case last night he didn't even manage that) giving the defence time to chase hard and pin the catcher the moment he gets hold of the ball. In effect, the attacking team ends up with a 5 tackle set against a set defensive line because they have had to burn a tackle catching the ball. It is a percentage play designed to enable our defence to restrict their go forward and hopefully have them kicking from 40m out from their own line[/QUOTE

Toeing it over the sideline does the same thing, but very rarely does he do it, Friend has been known to but very rarely Pearce from memory. Not talking about 40/20 but a kick over the 10m side line for set defence.

No it doesn't. Putting the ball into touch gives the opposition forwards time to get back onside and also gives them a full set of six with the ball. The high kick into the corner makes the receiving team waste one tackle catching the ball and at least another tackle and sometimes 2, before their forwards get back onside.

[Chooky Chookerson]

I think overall he has had a slightly above average season. He had a pretty bad game in atttack it is not the end of the world. Maloney had a poor defencive game, racking up 6 missed tackles but I haven't heard much about that.
Just be happy and soak up a good tough victory. Still a lot to be happy about that we should be focused on

[Arties Pie]

[QUOTE=Headless Chook;n608468]

No it doesn't. Putting the ball into touch gives the opposition forwards time to get back onside and also gives them a full set of six with the ball. The high kick into the corner makes the receiving team waste one tackle catching the ball and at least another tackle and sometimes 2, before their forwards get back onside.

You misunderstand me, That tactic works well if it's not misdirected but unfortunantly Pearce has a bad habit of kicking the ball and it landing in the ingoal for a 7 tackle set from the 20 more often than not he muffs it up, so in my opinion 6 tackles from the 10 metre line is a hell of alot better than 7 from the 20 metre line. Your tactic you mention is fine if you have a kicker who can be acurate consistantly.

[stsae]

Pearce is poo poo
always has been poo poo
and will continue to be poo poo

The difference between Pearce and Hastings

Hastings has been forced to bide his time, form and ability will dictate when he gets his shot.

Pearce was gifted a 1st grade position, had his competition for his spot eliminated by the powers that be, thus ruining the blokes chances of reaching his full potential.

That is why he is no good under pressure and cannot think for himself

I am sure in the next 2 or 3 weeks all will be forgiven when he has a blinder and becomes the chosen one once again.

Wish i failed as many times under pressured and was promoted for my efforts.

I am a greater fan of Harold pearce and the park they built

LOL, we both know it will take a month till Pastings cops a, well, pasting.

The JNR scrum base paring. You know its gonna draw the heat.

Peraceorf is doing very well, hes actually going better at the captaincy gig than I first thought he would.

Considering before a ball was kicked we lost Mini and $BW, lost Meekan and MLK, Friendly out for the first 6 wks or so, then Fergo gets injured and JWH has spent a while out too. We have also lost RTS and Baloney for next season.

And he got picked in Oranges again.

When you look at it fairly Pearceorf is showing some quality in the leadership stakes.

We are in the top 4 again someone even mentioned.

Yep im convinced, you are correct maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate, he never deserved that start his name gave him.

I will give you credit though, dang you are still a good fisherman.

Bring my spraypaint.

[Johnny Tobin]

Maloney seems to be untouchable. But he gifted the Coast the intercept try that basically caused the match to be a close slug fest. Had we held the ball and scored in that set (or shortly after) instead they would not have recovered.

[Guest]

Maloney seems to be untouchable. But he gifted the Coast the intercept try that basically caused the match to be a close slug fest. Had we held the ball and scored in that set (or shortly after) instead they would not have recovered.

It was a hospital pass drom Teflon that forced Maloney to be put under pressure, early nall out wide like he actually did with the first try would have seen Jennings stroll over.

[Johnny Tobin]

It was a hospital pass drom Teflon that forced Maloney to be put under pressure, early nall out wide like he actually did with the first try would have seen Jennings stroll over.

So take the hit instead of batting it one and hoping for the best. It's often those hospital passes that lead to great quick hands for tries.

BTW I am not saying that Pearce is without blame. I am only saying that Maloney goes under the radar for some reason.

[Headless Chook]

So take the hit instead of batting it one and hoping for the best. It's often those hospital passes that lead to great quick hands for tries.

BTW I am not saying that Pearce is without blame. I am only saying that Maloney goes under the radar for some reason.

Maloney was terrible for the large part when we lost 4 in a row but hardly copped anything. His lack of composure cost us the game against Broncos, he was dreadful on Anzac Day and not much better in either game vs the Sharks. The funny thing is, Sharks have paid top dollar for a bloke who will be turning 30 next year and who's best footy is behind him yet everybody is moaning and whinging about us letting him go. I would much rather Maloney leave a year too soon then us to be stuck with an aging dud for the next three years