DCE = What is he doing here

[MKCS]

I also cringed like most of us however Sam is still developing his game.

Respectfully this seems to be a bit of a funny post. Walker has played 87 first grade games for us and has been in our system as a first grader for 6 years now, you can't on one hand say "We need to give this guy more time, it's just 87 games!" and then on the other agree with people willing to shoot DCE down after 1 game where he was average and competitive with Walker.

I understand it's sort of different as DCE was signed onto bring us a premiership and time is running out on his career but he needs time also. He's not going to be perfect in his first game.

The gaslighting in this thread is unbelievable.

People aren't blaming DCE for the loss, most of the blame seems to be aimed at the referee which is laughable, but DCE was shit there's no getting around it and he was brought in because he's allegedly better than Savala and would allegedly bring this experience to the team that somehow the oldest squad in the league was lacking and he didn't.

Hugo Savala and Sam Walker were 5 wins 2 losses when starting together last year with an average of 29 points scored per game but it's great we blew it up for a geriatric from Manly.

Maybe not now but on the night it seemed pretty heavily blaming DCE until people pointed out that DCE's stats were competitive with Walkers and Watsons, then it kind of slowed.

DCE is better than Savala, that's factual based on stats from last season. Hugo and Sam dominated teams in the bottom 8 and even then Savala wasn't a particular standout either. Whenever they played top tier sides they struggled.

[Bates]

Respectfully this seems to be a bit of a funny post. Walker has played 87 first grade games for us and has been in our system as a first grader for 6 years now, you can't on one hand say "We need to give this guy more time, it's just 87 games!" and then on the other agree with people willing to shoot DCE down after 1 game where he was average and competitive with Walker.

I understand it's sort of different as DCE was signed onto bring us a premiership and time is running out on his career but he needs time also. He's not going to be perfect in his first game.



Maybe not now but on the night it seemed pretty heavily blaming DCE until people pointed out that DCE's stats were competitive with Walkers and Watsons, then it kind of slowed.

DCE is better than Savala, that's factual based on stats from last season. Hugo and Sam dominated teams in the bottom 8 and even then Savala wasn't a particular standout either. Whenever they played top tier sides they struggled.

Respectfully, your bias is abnormal and out of control when it comes to anything DCE related.

Clearly Sam is still developing his game. He's 23 years old. He has years of footy ahead of him. Mitch Moses was more miss than hit at the same age bordering on bog average. Mitch is now a top-liner!

Sam has a high ceiling with a skillset that's next level. Time and more games will help him add polish and become more selective with his plays.

From a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being his full potential, Sammy would be sitting at 4/10 at this point in time in his career imo.

I'd be curious to see where you think he sits on the same scale.

This should be interesting.

[MKCS]

Respectfully, your bias is abnormal and out of control when it comes to anything DCE related.

Clearly Sam is still developing his game. He's 23 years old. He has years of footy ahead of him. Mitch Moses was more miss than hit at the same age bordering on bog average. Mitch is now a top-liner!

Sam has a high ceiling with a skillset that's next level. Time and more games will help him add polish and become more selective with his plays.

From a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being his full potential, Sammy would be sitting at 4/10 at this point in time in his career.

I'd be curious to see where you think he sits on the same scale.

This should be interesting.

I'm not saying Sam won't improve, halfbacks typically play their best at around 25-26 so we'll likely see his best within the next 2-3 years I just think it's amusing that we're happy to give Sam another 2-3 years to become an elite halfback but DCE is expected to be elite in his first game at a new club where the rest of the team for the most part were well below average.

On the same scale I'd say Sam is currently a 7, he's not going to become double as good as he is now but he'll improve on what he is now.

[Bates]

I'm not saying Sam won't improve, halfbacks typically play their best at around 25-26 so we'll likely see his best within the next 2-3 years I just think it's amusing that we're happy to give Sam another 2-3 years to become an elite halfback but DCE is expected to be elite in his first game at a new club where the rest of the team for the most part were well below average.

On the same scale I'd say Sam is currently a 7, he's not going to become double as good as he is now but he'll improve on what he is now.

Some had made their mind up before the Warriors game and that DCE was washed up so it's not about double standards and hanging him out to dry after 1 game.

You can't blame fans for showing their loyalty towards Hugo who bleeds red, white and blue.

[SamKerrSimp]

Respectfully this seems to be a bit of a funny post. Walker has played 87 first grade games for us and has been in our system as a first grader for 6 years now, you can't on one hand say "We need to give this guy more time, it's just 87 games!" and then on the other agree with people willing to shoot DCE down after 1 game where he was average and competitive with Walker.

I understand it's sort of different as DCE was signed onto bring us a premiership and time is running out on his career but he needs time also. He's not going to be perfect in his first game.



Maybe not now but on the night it seemed pretty heavily blaming DCE until people pointed out that DCE's stats were competitive with Walkers and Watsons, then it kind of slowed.

DCE is better than Savala, that's factual based on stats from last season. Hugo and Sam dominated teams in the bottom 8 and even then Savala wasn't a particular standout either. Whenever they played top tier sides they struggled.

Here's a stat for you: your boy has never won a game of football playing for the roosters.

[BigCok007]

Here's a stat for you: your boy has never won a game of football playing for the roosters.

brother it’s one game, give him till at least R10 before you start calling for his head

[MKCS]

Some had made their mind up before the Warriors game and that DCE was washed up so it's not about double standards and hanging him out to dry after 1 game.

You can't blame fans for showing their loyalty towards Hugo who bleeds red, white and blue.

No blame for it but we can't just openly say Hugo is better than DCE when that is factually incorrect. Now if we want to make arguments about loyalty or development or the benefits of playing a much younger player over an older one then that's valid but as it stands right now DCE is better than Hugo.

Here's a stat for you: your boy has never won a game of football playing for the roosters.

Well that'll change.

[caz]

i honestly don't think we got a good read on how he's going to go from last week. he made one bad error and didn't do anything special but always hard for a half to shine with so little ball and so little good field position.
i don't think there's a definite time frame on his value to the side. if he plays shit in the next few games then bring hugo in, if he looks likely then he'll stay.

the fact that hugo was unfit for round one is a factor. hard to argue that rodwell would have been a better option last week. if we hadn't signed dce and lost last week with hugo missing the game there would have been threads about the problems with not signing him.

ultimately we fans don't have a vote in picking the team. it's good not to worry about things you can't control and hope for the best

[mattyh]

He's 23 years old and still on his Ps mate.

For every N Cleary example there are 10 halves who hit ones straps around the age of 25/26.

Doesnt change the fact he makes some very low % plays, i suspect he always will , maybe thats why robbo / nick bought in dce to balance things out? Whilst im not a fan of the dce signing, im prepared to give it time, and i dont think he was anywhere near as bad as some on here are making out

[The Cool Dude]

We've just got to beat Souths & then everything is forgotten
If we dont beat Souths the pressure is going to go right up & we're then facing Penrith & then if we're 0 from 3 the drums will be beating for Hugo to be in the run on side.

I think the drums will.be beating on someone higher up in the pecking order.

[SamKerrSimp]

brother it’s one game, give him till at least R10 before you start calling for his head

2 games actually

[Bates]

No blame for it but we can't just openly say Hugo is better than DCE when that is factually incorrect. Now if we want to make arguments about loyalty or development or the benefits of playing a much younger player over an older one then that's valid but as it stands right now DCE is better than Hugo.

I guess Robbo agrees with you. Personally I disagree. Time will tell!

He shied away from contact against the Warriors on numerous occasions. This I find concerning!

Kurt Capewells Try. 12th minute - Warriors run a block play. 1st lead runner runs through line on Steeps inside shoulder. Steep then checks the ball runner(warriors five-eighth), Pauga checks the warriors left centre and Marky jams in to close the space and checks RTS who isn't in the picture however if you slow it right down you'll see his arm. That leaves DCE to check the second lead runner Kurt Capewell who went through untouched.

Poor read ? I don't think so as you can see by their shape that they were looking to isolate DCE. Self preservation more like it imo....

Well that'll change.

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[BigCok007]

2 games actually

lol if you want to count a cameo in a trial game I guess, I’ll meet you halfway and call it 1.5 games so by the end of first half in round 10

[dice]

If BBR was coach...

[Jacks Fur Coat]

If BBR was coach...

Thats very witty Dice.