How to confuse AI (Grok, ChatGPT etc)

[Carlos Parra]

Just ask it: How many trial (pre-season) matches have the Sydney Roosters won and lost since the beginning of 2013?

It can't work it out.

If someone knows the number, I'm guessing the win/loss ratio is about 10/90!

[Duchess_of_Bondi]

Just ask it: How many trial (pre-season) matches have the Sydney Roosters won and lost since the beginning of 2013?

It can't work it out.

If someone knows the number, I'm guessing the win/loss ratio is about 10/90!

Here you go. You can filter from here.

https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/t...rl-finals.html

I'll take the 3 premierships since 2013 over any trial game wins..I'm funny that way...

Meanwhile Parra gets $100,00 and a trophy after 40 years for winning 2 games..

[BTRD]

Copilot always gives wrong answers ha ha.

Also, how many ' semi final matches ' (which include all finals etc) have the Roosters played in, and won, from 2020 ?? It is not a happy answer from a supporters perspective.

[Duchess_of_Bondi]

LOL..I just came out of another AI workshop and am on my morning tea break. I asked nicely and got these results.



Since 2013, the Sydney Roosters have played
26 recorded pre-season trial and challenge matches, resulting in 10 wins and 16 losses.
While the club has achieved significant success in official competitions during this period (including three Premierships and three World Club Challenges), their trial record reflects a strategy of testing depth and blooding young talent.
ESPN
Sydney Roosters Trial Results (2013–2026)
The following table details the Roosters' pre-season fixtures, including the official NRL Pre-Season Challenge format introduced in 2023.
www.sportingnews.com

2026	Parramatta Eels	Loss	22–28
2026	Wests Tigers	Loss	26–42
2025	Newcastle Knights	Loss	10–48
2025	St. George Illawarra Dragons	Loss	8–26
2024	South Sydney Rabbitohs	Win	46–10
2024	Manly Sea Eagles	Win	36–22
2023	Manly Sea Eagles	Loss	16–28
2023	Melbourne Storm	Win	32–24
2022	Wests Tigers	Loss	8–16
2022	Canberra Raiders	Loss	18–32
2021	Canberra Raiders	Win	26–20
2020	Newcastle Knights	Loss	10–58
2019	Manly Sea Eagles	Loss	0–38
2018	Penrith Panthers	Loss	18–30
2017	Manly Sea Eagles	Loss	22–24
2016	St. Helens (WCC Trial)	Win	38–12
2015	Manly Sea Eagles	Loss	12–26
2014	Wigan Warriors (WCC Trial)	Win	36–14
2014	Wests Tigers (Foundation Cup)	Win	28–16
2013	Wests Tigers (Foundation Cup)	Win	28–24
2013	Manly Sea Eagles	Loss	16–24

Note: This list includes Foundation Cup matches and official trials. It excludes the World Club Challenge finals (2014, 2019, 2020) and Auckland Nines/Pre-season 9s tournaments, which are considered separate competition formats.

[Carlos Parra]

LOL..I just came out of another AI workshop and am on my morning tea break. I asked nicely and got these results.



Since 2013, the Sydney Roosters have played
26 recorded pre-season trial and challenge matches, resulting in 10 wins and 16 losses.
While the club has achieved significant success in official competitions during this period (including three Premierships and three World Club Challenges), their trial record reflects a strategy of testing depth and blooding young talent.

Which is why, like Trent, I don't take trial matches seriously.

Thanks for the data - what AI source did you use?

[Duchess_of_Bondi]

Which is why, like Trent, I don't take trial matches seriously.

Thanks for the data - what AI source did you use?

You are welcome Carlos and I'm always happy to search for fellow Roosters fans. I analyse data for a living so doing it for our beloved club is the fun part.

I logged in for a work Copilot workshop this morning, the second I've attended, and I went into AI mode via Google. You need to ask it very direct and specific questions and don't laugh when I tell you to use the word 'please'. This actually helps get better results. That goes for us ladies too..we like the words 'please' and 'thank you'..

I've seen that other site I started the thread about before and I love how it goes back to 1908 as well. There is a lot of information stored in the red text as they are all hyperlinked to different sections. One could easily get lost for ages looking at all that information.

There is also Wayback Machine which I used in my fraud role and you have the ability to look at archived web pages. Of course the first site I went to was the official Roosters one when I first started using it a few years back and it took me to a Foundation Cup match day info page.

https://web.archive.org

It took me back 20 years..I was at Ricky Stuart's final game as coach too against the Dragons..

https://web.archive.org/web/20060921...?ArticleID=476

[ccfc bondi]

Like most of us, AI probably doesn't care too much.

AI scouts the internet for answers, (which is a big problem, because there is a lot of rubbish on there). Trial games are about finding the right combinations, seeing how young and new players perform, choosing positions, kickers, etc. Winning is not a priority, which MAY have something to do with the problem using it for an answer.

BTW....Death to AI!!!!

[Duchess_of_Bondi]

Like most of us, AI probably doesn't care too much.

AI scouts the internet for answers, (which is a big problem, because there is a lot of rubbish on there). Trial games are about finding the right combinations, seeing how young and new players perform, choosing positions, kickers, etc. Winning is not a priority, which MAY have something to do with the problem using it for an answer.

BTW....Death to AI!!!!

I actually agrre with you. It makes people lazy and unable to think for themselves or develop proper skill sets. Just like stupid phones.