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  • The Politics of Bondi.

    Our right wing media, posing once again as the voice of the nation, wasted no time politicizing the shocking events that occurred in Bondi despite the fact that we know next to nothing yet about motivation nor much about context. The immediate result is that Minns, as right wing Labor has always wanted to do, is on the cusp of banning pro - Palestine marches and indeed, implementing all of the other draconian recommendations of the Antisemitism envoy. Our right to speak freely is now under assault.

    Most of our disengaged, let's face it, uninterested in much at all community, never need any context which is fortunate in a way since none is ever provided by our agenda focused rightist media. Context is a difficult bugger because it complicates issues and very often, but not often enough, leads to Cognitive dissonance. For others it means more bloody reading and the torture of actually having to think more deeply.

    For 2.5 years we've witnessed ethnic cleansing to the tune of probably nearly 100,000 innocent Palestinians brutally terminated. Thousands of us have felt strongly enough to protest every weekend at the egregious and endless barbarity on our screens and that exposure and the reactions to it, for our political establishment, sections of our local Jewish and indeed the State of Israel, had to stop. But even if this transition to violence occurred after 7 October, the argument that it was caused by the protests themselves seems spurious. If people are responding to the destruction of Gaza with militancy and confrontation - some of which is clearly anti-semitic - it is not because someone is telling them to globalise the intifada, it is because the military of the world’s only Jewish state has been mass bombing and starving a population of a surrounded enclave, sequestered there since 1948. This is utterly obvious, but simply needs repeating for base clarity. The intifada is globalised by the mere witnessing of this around the world. It is globalised in the sense that millions of us respond with the feeling in our hearts that we must do something about this. For most, that is turning up to a march. For some, it will flow along pre-existing or recently developed, anti-semitism.

    This is the obvious linkage that the worldwide zionist movement and its wider allies are trying to break at all costs. They are treating the global pro-Palestine movement as if it were a movement based on a pure fabrication - as if it were a movement against chemtrails or somesuch.

    The Chabad group, which organised the Hanuka event, is a global Orthodox sect that has expanded vastly in the last few decades, as a comprehensive outreach group. Pro-Israel (unlike some other ultraorthodox groups), Since the October 7 Hamas attack, and the IDF attack on Gaza, Chabad has become more tightly bound with Israeli military purpose. Local leader Rabbi Eli Schlager, killed in the Bondi attack, has been frenetically busy going back and forth from Israel, and happy to pose among IDF soldiers with missiles, shells and, in one ironical case, a sniper rifle. This raises the possibility that this was in part a targeted political assassination, with Schlager as the target.

    We don't yet know that of course and will we ever know given the agenda of the OZ establishment. What is needed is full blown Royal Commission into the tragedy and its background. There are many questions yet to be answered and first up should be the ning nongs of ASIO always enthusiastic about frightening us but completely unable to protect us it seems.



    Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 12-21-2025, 03:31 PM.

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    Shameful scenes last night with the PM being booed in what was meant to be a vigil to remember the deceased along with a show of unity and togetherness
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    • #3
      this bloke got it right last night - ‘Light will win’: Rabbi Ulman reflects on Bondi Beach massacre

      sussan ley criticising penny wong for not crying publicly was odd. people have their own way of showing emotion and it's good to be careful about playing partisan potlitics at moments of national tragedy. that was a cheap shot.

      it shouldn't be forgotten that the main culprits are the two shooters. everyone on all sides of politics condemns what they did. them and their ideology should be what we're hating.

      but there are questions to be asked. what could have been done better?
      seems like intelligence could have been more effective. that needs to improve.
      easy availability of guns needs to be looked at.
      more resources could have been given to protecting jews. what happened wasn't a surprise.
      some people have said that the government's recognition of the state of palestine was an issue but that doesn't ring true. if anything, there might have been more incentive to do what they did if palestine hadn't been recognised but the reality is that that issue was probably irrelevant to these guys. they had their 72 virgins waiting for them in heaven on their minds.
      the rise of anti-semitism in australia has been cited as a cause and, the argument goes, this lays the blame at the government's feet for not doing enough to stop it. not sure about that. anti-semitism, as opposed to criticism of political acts by the state of israel, is a bad thing but would stopping the march over the harbour bridge carrying flags or similar measures have stopped these guys?

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      • #4
        I think to minimize the risks of further terror attacks on home soil we need to avoid pursiits like "reasons" or "context" of the perpetrators. It feels like we are justifying the acts in some perverse kind of way. Remember, terror is beyond reason. As a free democratic society we need to be really clear on this I know the overwhelming nunber of Aussies are, but our leaders need to be united on this. Terror preys on weakness, its beyond negotiation.

        The Governments weakness with the weekly hate marches, hate preachers and the many anti semitic attacks is behind the public anger at Albanese. No deportations or incarcerations to my knowledge either. It all spiralled out of control with the Opera House riots on an evening that was supposed to be supporting our Jewish Aussies. And just got worse and worse until last Sunday. The moral equivalence of Islamic extremism with wartime responses to it is as perplexing as it is socially divisive.

        There has been a stark contrast between Chris Minns and Albanese. The former is a true leader and he deserves much credit.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
          I think to minimize the risks of further terror attacks on home soil we need to avoid pursiits like "reasons" or "context" of the perpetrators. It feels like we are justifying the acts in some perverse kind of way. Remember, terror is beyond reason. As a free democratic society we need to be really clear on this I know the overwhelming nunber of Aussies are, but our leaders need to be united on this. Terror preys on weakness, its beyond negotiation.

          The Governments weakness with the weekly hate marches, hate preachers and the many anti semitic attacks is behind the public anger at Albanese. No deportations or incarcerations to my knowledge either. It all spiralled out of control with the Opera House riots on an evening that was supposed to be supporting our Jewish Aussies. And just got worse and worse until last Sunday. The moral equivalence of Islamic extremism with wartime responses to it is as perplexing as it is socially divisive.

          There has been a stark contrast between Chris Minns and Albanese. The former is a true leader and he deserves much credit.
          You're funny Jack
          How many people do you know personally in Australia? would it be 10,000 Australians, doubt it.
          Would it be 5000? Doubt it.
          Millions of people in Australia dont share your beliefs.

          Its a slimy greedy world we are in & the people at the top dont give a fark about the masses they dont care about innocent people being killed they dont care about the planet they only care about wealth & power.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

            You're funny Jack
            How many people do you know personally in Australia? would it be 10,000 Australians, doubt it.
            Would it be 5000? Doubt it.
            Millions of people in Australia dont share your beliefs.

            Its a slimy greedy world we are in & the people at the top dont give a fark about the masses they dont care about innocent people being killed they dont care about the planet they only care about wealth & power.
            Just my sense. Id reckon a referendum on same may prove you wrong. What beliefs?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

              Just my sense. Id reckon a referendum on same may prove you wrong. What beliefs?
              Labor is farked.
              Albo is farked.
              There is no such thing as global warming.
              Liberal party should always be in power.
              Trump is the best
              Muslims are bad people.

              Theyre just a few that come to my mind that I have interpreted from your posts over the years.
              I dont care what you believe in & it doesnt make me dislike you or like you, my point is that you have no idea what the overwhelming Australians think.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                Labor is farked.
                Albo is farked.
                There is no such thing as global warming.
                Liberal party should always be in power.
                Trump is the best
                Muslims are bad people.

                Theyre just a few that come to my mind that I have interpreted from your posts over the years.
                I dont care what you believe in & it doesnt make me dislike you or like you, my point is that you have no idea what the overwhelming Australians think.
                Youv'ue got quite a few wrong there mate, and provided an over simplified summary of things that you dont like to hear. No beliefs, just opinions based on facts. Happy to debate/ explain same at the right time. But now its about supporting our Jewish Aussies primarily. Plus me dinners ready.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

                  Youv'ue got quite a few wrong there mate, and provided an over simplified summary of things that you dont like to hear. No beliefs, just opinions based on facts. Happy to debate/ explain same at the right time. But now its about supporting our Jewish Aussies primarily. Plus me dinners ready.
                  lol, the facts you believe so they must be right.
                  Enjoy your dinner.

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                  • #10
                    I dont get into what religion people are I just take people on face value.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

                      Youv'ue got quite a few wrong there mate, and provided an over simplified summary of things that you dont like to hear. No beliefs, just opinions based on facts. Happy to debate/ explain same at the right time. But now it’s about supporting our Jewish Aussies primarily. Plus me dinners ready.
                      Of the 6 things Mickey has said Which one or ones are wrong
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                        Of the 6 things Mickey has said Which one or ones are wrong
                        Lets make this about topic, not attacking individuals.

                        Umm....easiest way to answer your question is to say what I would agree with and its the Trump one. I think he is a game changer. Almost put the global warming in there, but left it out the way he worded it. Anyway back to topic.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

                          Lets make this about topic, not attacking individuals.

                          Umm....easiest way to answer your question is to say what I would agree with and its the Trump one. I think he is a game changer. Almost put the global warming in there, but left it out the way he worded it. Anyway back to topic.
                          Let the Labor state premiers do that by taking away freedom of speech

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                          • #14
                            I'd happily trade freedom of speech for a safer country.

                            Freedom of speech is so overrated imo.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bates View Post
                              I'd happily trade freedom of speech for a safer country.

                              Freedom of speech is so overrated imo.
                              Till you are silenced
                              I respect all our moderators here. Past present and even future. Always have done and always will do a wonderful job.

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