The Coach of Woke is broke

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=Les Tricolores: "......there's 500 coaches who could do a better job with this playing group than him presently...."

500 better coaches? That would come as news to the Tiges, Manly, Knights and the Dragons.

Present issues will resolve themselves in time. Hopefully sooner rather than later. The Elephant seems to be the current chaos in the outside backs and Keary's predictability but it probably is a more complex collapse of confidence in each other - a situation where individuals retreat into themselves rather than being, in some almost spiritual way, committed to the group objective. I'm sure that "the living thing" teamwork that Robbo talks about is an ideal rarely achieved

Human group harmony, and the obstacles to it, are much researched in the corporate world and the military and accumulated data will eventually expose the root of the problem but, meanwhile, the frustration and impotence remain. The performance V Parra was exceptional and just weeks later, here we are looking like Spooners

[Les Tricolores]

[QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n998217][QUOTE=Les Tricolores: "......there's 500 coaches who could do a better job with this playing group than him presently...."

500 better coaches? That would come as news to the Tiges, Manly, Knights and the Dragons.

Present issues will resolve themselves in time. Hopefully sooner rather than later. The Elephant seems to be the current chaos in the outside backs and Keary's predictability but it probably is a more complex collapse of confidence in each other - a situation where individuals retreat into themselves rather than being, in some almost spiritual way, committed to the group objective. I'm sure that "the living thing" teamwork that Robbo talks about is an ideal rarely achieved

Human group harmony, and the obstacles to it, are much researched in the corporate world and the military and accumulated data will eventually expose the root of the problem but, meanwhile, the frustration and impotence remain. The performance V Parra was exceptional and just weeks later, here we are looking like Spooners

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500 coaches who could do a better job presently… with the best list in league we are struggling almightily

It goes beyond just confidence… which is no doubt naturally low… because we have been average at best from the beginning and we are almost halfway thru

The result against Parramatta was good… the performance not so much

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=Les Tricolores; 500 coaches who could do a better job presently with the best list in league we are struggling almightily
The result against Parramatta was good; the performance not so much.

Granted the worrying signs were there V Parra and Souffs with their fightbacks somewhat tarnishing the Chooks' first half performances where the ball movement was confident and effective.

I don't buy the "best roster" stuff. It's clearly not the case - where's the deficiency in the 'Riff? or the Broncs or Souffs for that matter? No, we are mid rankers on the roster score - we got big names, sure, but names don't win games. Sualii is a dead loss by the looks (peaked at Kings where he was made to look good by Penisini)), Teddy unrecognisable (is he injured), ditto Keary, the Walker kid has gone from genius to liability and the rest of the backline excepting Manu and Toops, are bog average atm.

The forwards are solid but not roster topping like in the days of Cordner and Jake.

[Water boy]

[QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n998249]

Jake[/B].

Why has Jake Friend suddenly been beatified by so many. He was hot and cold, have we forgotten he was booed off the field at one point his performances were so bad? Solid player on his day, like simon bonetti but boy oh boy his time been kind to his reputation. A machine in defence no doubt, but he had no kicking game, not quick, no footwork, and got away with so many forward passes.

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=Water boy

Why has Jake Friend suddenly been beatified by so many. He was hot and cold, have we forgotten he was booed off the field at one point his performances were so bad? Solid player on his day, like simon bonetti but boy oh boy his time been kind to his reputation. A machine in defence no doubt, but he had no kicking game, not quick, no footwork, and got away with so many forward passes.

Huh? I recall a couple of cracking 40/20s out of DH and nothing wrong with his short kicking game in my recollection.

[Les Tricolores]

[QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n998249][QUOTE=Les Tricolores; 500 coaches who could do a better job presently with the best list in league we are struggling almightily
The result against Parramatta was good; the performance not so much.

Granted the worrying signs were there V Parra and Souffs with their fightbacks somewhat tarnishing the Chooks' first half performances where the ball movement was confident and effective.

I don't buy the "best roster" stuff. It's clearly not the case - where's the deficiency in the 'Riff? or the Broncs or Souffs for that matter? No, we are mid rankers on the roster score - we got big names, sure, but names don't win games. Sualii is a dead loss by the looks (peaked at Kings where he was made to look good by Penisini)), Teddy unrecognisable (is he injured), ditto Keary, the Walker kid has gone from genius to liability and the rest of the backline excepting Manu and Toops, are bog average atm.

The forwards are solid but not roster topping like in the days of Cordner and Jake.

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There is no doubt that there is something amiss at the club

I’m not saying there is a rebellion afoot… but the collective has lost a good 10-15% across the board… that’s on the coach… who has all but complete autonomy at the club I believe

Whether we have the best list or not is a matter for debate… I agree there are a few who are overrated as you say… but we were 2nd favourites before the season… logically behind the 2 time defending champs… and are almost universally considered to be loaded in league circles… and I’m not talking the journos… but the many ex players (and yes some like Tallis talk a lot of rubbish)… so it’s certainly not just my view

People I know who aren’t fans of the club but follow the NRL ask me what the hell is wrong with the Roosters… we’ve got a problem

[mightyrooster]

I have always felt Robbo was well informed rather than woke. Also what is with the know nothings bagging the fact that the bloke speaks French. Fark right off.

It's the bogan Aussie tall poppy thing where anyone who dares to get themselves an education is ridiculed for not being 'fair dinkum salt of the earth' enough.

[zac]

Okay I will explain it… but this won’t be brief

Let’s go back to the end of last year…

Forget Robbo piping up about the Manly fiasco… though Pride jerseys for Women in League round? how dumb and utterly woke is that? and just so disrespectful to all those women who have contributed immensely to the game

But let’s forget Robbo piping up about that… though it had nothing to do with him. That wasn’t the problem in itself… rather just symptomatic of his own malaise

What happened with the Rabbits though is all on him. We beat them to open Allianz and the crowd smashed Latrell… as they should given his behaviour towards us. And we targeted him as well… all perfectly legally of course. He was a non factor… so great tactic and all good

Go forward a week… and on the eve of the biggest game of the year… and on an 8 game winning streak… Robbo thinks himself wise to tell Roosters fans how to behave… and what a great guy Latrell is… and how we should all love him even though he hates us

The following day the tables were reversed… Rabbits went out of their way to take our best player and captain out of the game but instead with thuggery… and succeeded… and paid no price from the refs… who also let us down elsewhere. Great guy Latrell was also happy to lay down and milk penalties

Post game Robbo doesn’t say anything about any of this… no he’s got nothing to say when it comes to defending his own team or captain. He actually blamed his own players and thought we should have won with a backline of reserve graders and an empty bench for the second half… if only we’d shown some discipline. Just mind boggling bullshit from the woke coach. But more than that… in saying nothing he not only sold out his own men but ceded the high moral ground to the thugs… who gladly took it and labelled us a disgrace. And so thus went the narrative the next day… we were not just beaten but utterly humiliated as a football club

So that’s how you lose a football team… with extraordinary poor man management… we haven’t played a good game since. And that’s why I’ve got a problem with this guy talking about shit which simply doesn’t matter… and then not defending the club and his own players when he simply must

People can question this… I would think it quite obvious… but no one should have any doubts when we get rolled by a team that can’t beat anyone this week

i honestly don't agree with any of that.

what i will say is that robbo is a different breed of coach compared to fifty years ago. back then he might have found it hard to get a gig but times change and what seemed new agey back then has become more mainstream

[Steggles]

i honestly don't agree with any of that.

what i will say is that robbo is a different breed of coach compared to fifty years ago. back then he might have found it hard to get a gig but times change and what seemed new agey back then has become more mainstream

There was a fair amount of fact in that response that you’re not agreeing with.
Robbo absolutely DID tell Roosters supporters how they should behave toward Latrell which he has fark all right to do I was personally offended by that.
Our players were illegally bashed out of the game by Souffs and Robbo DIDN’T once defend his guys……he made it their fault we lost. I’d prefer the club to spend the $10k and him stick up for our boys rather than his PC approach. For all the bad things Ricky Stuart brings, at least he sticks solid with his team.
Robbo lost respect in my eyes for those two facts alone.

[zac]

There was a fair amount of fact in that response that you’re not agreeing with.
Robbo absolutely DID tell Roosters supporters how they should behave toward Latrell which he has fark all right to do I was personally offended by that.
Our players were illegally bashed out of the game by Souffs and Robbo DIDN’T once defend his guys……he made it their fault we lost. I’d prefer the club to spend the $10k and him stick up for our boys rather than his PC approach. For all the bad things Ricky Stuart brings, at least he sticks solid with his team.
Robbo lost respect in my eyes for those two facts alone.

if you want to be offended by that robbo comment that's your right, personally i would have shrugged it off and just booed latrell anyway if i wanted to, but you're missing the point. his point is that that comment and other what he's calling woke comments have alienated the team and that seems a long bow to me

[Les Tricolores]

if you want to be offended by that robbo comment that's your right, personally i would have shrugged it off and just booed latrell anyway if i wanted to, but you're missing the point. his point is that that comment and other what he's calling woke comments have alienated the team and that seems a long bow to me

In pure sports psych terms Robbo well and truly set the table for that defeat… and then hung the players out to dry afterwards

Why would you want to make life comfortable for the opposition’s best player on the eve of the biggest game of the year against your biggest rivals? He came across as a woke pussy and Souths duly took their cue to bash us out of the game… the refs of course were never going to have a problem with that… in fact they assisted them

The game was over when our captain and best player… and the best player on ground at that point… was knocked senseless with a swinging clenched-fist forearm to the head… the offender wasn’t even binned… game over right there and then

And just in case you thought it was an accident… well the thug attempted it again the very next set

This is where the coach needed to defend his players… he certainly has in the past to great effect… but instead he did the exact opposite and threw them all under the bus… and this a day after going out his way to defend the opposition’s best player? I don’t necessarily expect you to understand but players simply don’t respect that rubbish from the man in charge believe it or not

I’m not surprised in the slightest that there is a disconnect there this year

[Rooster_6]

Robbo absolutely DID tell Roosters supporters how they should behave toward Latrell which he has fark all right to do I was personally offended by that.

What did he say to you and how did he tell you to behave?

[Lydon]

Bit late to the party on this lively thread but I think the issue I have with Robinson is not the views themselves,I respect he is a smart and well balanced bloke who has an understanding that his profile can carry weight and has a right to free speech. I think the issue is that he uses continual buzz words and makes social commentary instead of focusing on the good of the team and standing up for his team, which is what his job is.

Whilst i'm the furthest thing from "woke", the one that really pissed me off was actually footy related Latrell rubbish. Telling us not to boo is ridiculous and the height of arrogance and was tone deaf to say the least. He should've gone in harder on Souff's CLEAR and OBVIOUS attempt to take Teddy out of the game and used his influence but instead he had a go at our discipline (which was bad admittedly) and gushed over Latrell again.

Now the main issue I have with Robbo is his putrid and absurd team selections as of late and his resistance to change things that clearly don't work, dismissing them as simply "Roosters footy" and "finding our identity". He has turned into a corporate goose not a first grade coach. He needs to find his edge again or farrk off.

Perfectly said!

[Steggles]

What did he say to you and how did he tell you to behave?

OK, you want specifics, no probs.

On the 10/9/2022 Robinson called on the Roosters supporter base not to boo Latrell in the elimination final the following day. I remember it well because gameday was my birthday. Robbo said “That (booing) should stay last week, and we should move on to this week's contest. He's very special to me and this club and the time we had here. I love seeing his smile and him happy."
So, as one of the Roosters supporter base, he was talking to me, not individually but collectively. If you took that stick out of your backside for long enough, you’d understand that he was talking to you as well.

How do you feel that Robinson told you that you shouldn’t boo that grub Latrell, particularly after what he did to Manu’s face 12 months earlier, or are you OK being told how to behave by the coach? Do you really support this club?

[easternboy]

Well said Steggles.... I recall this as well and felt aggrieved that I was told by my clubs coach that I should not boo.. after all it is all part of the theatre is it not.? Perhaps Robinson should tell mr crowe not to give the thumbs down as it hurts our players feelings... well I don't like it and it makes me feel sad so is that not enough for Robinson to tell crowe to cease and desist with the thumbs down.?