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Originally posted by Tommy Smith View PostOne more HIA and he'll retire.
It's extraordinarily optimistic to imagine that he'll get through 2023 without one, sadly. Let alone 2024 as well.
Kez is also a smart and grounded guy who will put his health and family first.
Btw Cords didn't play 200 FG games either...
Cordner playing 1 game was equal to 2-3 games of any other player… no-one played the game harder than him in the modern era. Context matters.
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
There’s a lot of science around neuroplasticity and the brains ability to heal itself and build new pathways where previous ones have been damaged that suggest what you are saying is not necessarily true.
Cordner playing 1 game was equal to 2-3 games of any other player… no-one played the game harder than him in the modern era. Context matters.
I understand your in denial, I don't want to see him go out that way either ..
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Originally posted by Bondicigar View Post
I understand your in denial, I don't want to see him go out that way either ..
I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject of neuroplasticity, just very interested. Absolute statements like Keary will retire in 2023 because of concussions feel premature with no data in front of us to make that call unless Tommy knows something we don't?
I worry for Keary, Radley and now B.Smith but I'm not educateed enough on the topic or their specific cases to speculate as to their future and with all due respect I doubt anyone on here is.
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Look, I DESPERATELY hope that Luke Keary gets to play the next two seasons injury free. An argument could be made that he's still our most important player. We lose Kez to injury we don't win the comp in 2023.
He's a champion playmaker - perhaps the most underrated of his generation. He's also a cracking bloke and great clubman - a true Rooster.
But I'm just using the eye test here. He's had a lot of HIA issues on the field. And off the field he looks like a very happy family man with life in full perspective.
So realistically speaking if the worst happens and he suffers one more HIA, I don't think he'll be viewing it through a neuroplasticity angle. I reckon he will do the exact same as Friend and Cords and move on to the next phase of his life.
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Joseph Suaali’i left the World Cup with a backpack and returned home sporting a couple of extra names and billing as a teenage Samoan chief.
For all the talk of the rising star’s next NRL contract and preferred position following Samoa’s giant-killing World Cup run last November, Suaali’i’s standing in the island villages of Letogo and Satitoa has been known for some time.
Suaali’i was told during an emotional pre-Christmas ceremony by Satitoa elders that while his World Cup exploits brought immense pride to the community, his influence on the next generation extends beyond the paddock.
He doesn’t drink and many people in NRL circles can’t recall anyone else so young with his character.
“They did tell me it’s rare for someone my age to have this honour,” Suaali’i told the Herald.
“I don’t look at it as a responsibility, it’s more a way of living my life. If I’m leaving a good legacy behind for the next person to come along, that next Samoan kid to come through, that’s special for me.”
So is the teenager’s outlook on life. Suaali’i spent three weeks travelling Japan on his own before joining his family in Samoa. He has since taken up language and culture lessons, aiming to speak it fluently. The Cambodian heritage on his mother’s side of the family also looms large on his backpacking bucket list.
I’m learning about who I am and where I’m going,” Suaali’i said. “I’ve always seen Dad’s love for Samoa, and now after playing for them and going back home, and having these experiences – I only want to explore it more.
“I’m opening myself up to it because it’s going to help me find out who I want to be in life… Travelling solo, it was about the freedom and challenge of being overseas on my own. “Opening my eyes up to a different culture and waking up somewhere completely different to Bondi.”
^ This is from an article he did in the last couple of days.. What a kid.Last edited by ChookMaster; 01-12-2023, 10:42 AM.
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Originally posted by Tommy Smith View PostLook, I DESPERATELY hope that Luke Keary gets to play the next two seasons injury free. An argument could be made that he's still our most important player. We lose Kez to injury we don't win the comp in 2023.
He's a champion playmaker - perhaps the most underrated of his generation. He's also a cracking bloke and great clubman - a true Rooster.
But I'm just using the eye test here. He's had a lot of HIA issues on the field. And off the field he looks like a very happy family man with life in full perspective.
So realistically speaking if the worst happens and he suffers one more HIA, I don't think he'll be viewing it through a neuroplasticity angle. I reckon he will do the exact same as Friend and Cords and move on to the next phase of his life.
Repeated blows to the head causing concussion over a period of time is unrepairable brain damage. Wouldn't put my trust in "the brain repairing itself studies"
Keary would not be wanting another major concussion otherwise it's probably all over.
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
You see it a lot with fighters, less so in boxing and more so MMA these days where they just become very chinny. Some never recover and some do, I don't think it's just as straight forward as people make it out and being close to someone who works in this field a lot of the science on this is still so unknown.
I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject of neuroplasticity, just very interested. Absolute statements like Keary will retire in 2023 because of concussions feel premature with no data in front of us to make that call unless Tommy knows something we don't?
I worry for Keary, Radley and now B.Smith but I'm not educateed enough on the topic or their specific cases to speculate as to their future and with all due respect I doubt anyone on here is.
The players themselves would be the last ones to retire themselves.
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Originally posted by Thirteen View Post
I agree but a gun winger should be $500k max. I don’t reckon Toops ever would have been paid this much and he’s on the verge of becoming our all time leading try scorer. Only if he moves to centre could you justify giving him more than $500k.
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https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8hKMTc1/
well at least we know now. Luckily it won’t disrupt the rest of the season with ongoing speculation
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
You see it a lot with fighters, less so in boxing and more so MMA these days where they just become very chinny. Some never recover and some do, I don't think it's just as straight forward as people make it out and being close to someone who works in this field a lot of the science on this is still so unknown.
I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject of neuroplasticity, just very interested. Absolute statements like Keary will retire in 2023 because of concussions feel premature with no data in front of us to make that call unless Tommy knows something we don't?
I worry for Keary, Radley and now B.Smith but I'm not educateed enough on the topic or their specific cases to speculate as to their future and with all due respect I doubt anyone on here is.
I just dont think Luke Keary is the type to gamble on what science can prove or disprove about concussion.
It's a reality that if he gets another it would be touch and go on his career.
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