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  • #46
    Originally posted by roostermcgregor View Post
    NRL 360 host Paul Kent has just floated the story that the Roosters should put James Tedesco, Joseph Manu and Joseph Suaalii on the open market from 1st November this year/
    "That would help the Roosters get under the Sombrero, and (the sombrero) would shrink a lot - which is the main issue/ problem they have got with the outside world."
    "Why let either Manu, Tedesco or Suaalii leave when you can loose all 3 at the one time?" said Kent
    Roosters management were asked to comment as to whether they thought it was a good idea
    "Great idea" commented the Roosters - "We are actively negotiating with Josh Mansour, James Roberts and Phillip Sami at the moment , to replace the 3."
    Management added "Those replacement players would bring a wealth of experience to our club, and it would save the club a heap of cash."
    We are waiting on further developments on this ground breaking story........
    Seems legit!
    FVCK CANCER

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    • #47
      Originally posted by NorfolkStreetKid View Post
      I think the thread claiming we can't keep all 3 is unfounded for a start.
      There is no elephant in the room.
      Suaalii is worth about $600K right now, Joey maybe $700 and Teddy $1 million.
      No reason we can't keep all 3.
      If there had to be a choice made then I would let Joey go.
      No way would I ever let Teddy go.
      I agree with you that Suaalii is worth 600k right now to a team such as ours or another top team like a Melbourne Storm or Penrith but Suaalii over the next year will play finals footy (And likely go deep into the finals both years potentially making a grand final), he will likely play on the wing for Australia this year at the World Cup in some capacity, he could get an Origin debut next year as well and his 2023 will probably be even better than he's been this year just simply based on experience and the Roosters being better in 2023 (On paper at least)

      Suddenly negotiation time comes around and that 600k turns into 900k - 1m from a desperate team like a Bulldogs, Tigers, Titans etc who will let him play fullback and give him whatever he wants to be their star player. Bad for his development and career from an accolades perspective but financially very smart.

      In my opinion if the stuff being said in the media is true then it seems Suaalii and his people are that way which is fine as Manu has said publicly that he's very loyal to the team and is happy to wait for Tedesco to finish up at fullback. You'd just kind of be hoping that Suaalii doesn't turn out to be the next big thing in rugby league but it seems like these prodigies who go to bad teams for money never do usually end up reaching their full potential.

      We'd surely have one of the best backlines in the comp if we lined up with the following though:

      1. Tedesco 2. Tupou 3. Suaalii 4. Manu 5. Momirovski

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Steakface View Post

        How is it not unfounded?

        The fact that a so-called Rabbitoh supporter happened to raise this in the media is irrelevant to the reality.

        There are two key issues here.

        1. Competition. Other clubs in the NRL will have additional money to throw around for Suallii. Not even bringing Rugby into the equation. RTS and Laterell are prime examples from the recent past. Stop pretending otherwise.
        2. Squad balance. Having 3 players in the 1-5 on almost $2 million (over $2 million if you include Toups) will mean other parts of the squad will absolutely be compromised - halves and the forward pack. NRL squads are a balancing act. Stop pretending otherwise.

        The only somewhat sensible way really that has been raised to keep all 3 is to shift one of them to five-eighth.

        And even then, is that the smartest move considering Keary would be quite superior to all of them in the no.6, and despite rumours to the contrary there is no evidence that Keary will retire due to head knocks, and may well have 3-4 more years of high quality football ahead of him.
        It is unfounded because you have no proof of any of it.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by NorfolkStreetKid View Post

          It is unfounded because you have no proof of any of it.
          I even gave you a numbered list, and you still can't manage to grasp it?

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          • #50
            Don't buy into this media bullshit.

            Enjoy these players for as long as we can. We may not have JS for his entire career but we have him now.

            Anyone regurgitating things Paul Kent says is crazy.

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            • #51
              Suali is a fullbacks asshole at this stage ...Manu is leap years ahead...He still does not know his way around a footy field ..it was clear when he madea big long field break a few weeks ago and stuffed it by been "lost".
              Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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              • #52
                Suaalii is still learning the ropes as an NRL player.

                He is no where near Toops or even Brett Morris's level as far as NRL wingers go as both of them played a lot of season to reach those high levels of play they produce or produced week in week out .

                Walker has far more NRL experience and he is a fair way away from the finished product as a Half back.

                If Suaalii's prepared to bide his time and continue learning and improving then the opportunities to play centre/full back will happen.

                He has the time on his side at 19.

                Dominic Young is a similar player - 21 and still learning the ropes as an NRL player only having started playing league at 15 or 16 - Melbourne Storm actually wanted to bring Young to Australia when he was 16 the same as clubs do in bringing young players from the country/interstate to play in their systems (junior reps) but moving countries was a step too far and early.

                Both Suaalli and Young could be anything - why the Roosters could look at making a move as Young is able to field offers from Nov 1 - only on 180k at the Knights as money wasn't his angle playing NRL was
                Last edited by King Salvo; 09-06-2022, 02:23 PM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Rooster R View Post
                  I would let Keary go. Move Manu into 5/8 as a running 5/8. I think in 12 months time Walker will have enough experience to run and direct the team himself. I think in today's market 5/8 and fullbacks are on similar money so that would appease Manu. Move Sualli into centre with the long term goal being fullback. During this period it will allow him to develop further an understanding of our great game. Sualli will be on good money at centre with the intention to play the same type of game Manu plays now, the end result being given the fullback role in 3 to 4 seasons when Teddy retires.
                  Keary is gold...and must be kept at 6 forever.

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                  • #54
                    just came into the room but clearly this was a story planted by a bloke with links to souths on the eve of the finals. yawn

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post

                      Keary is gold...and must be kept at 6 forever.
                      I think Keary looks to the future and I think he has alot of others goals outside of footy. Don't get me wrong, Keary is a GREAT player, but Suallii is a special player and we must do our best to keep him.

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                      • #56
                        when kez signed his last contract he said it would probably be his last

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Steakface View Post

                          I even gave you a numbered list, and you still can't manage to grasp it?
                          You made a statement, which you suggested was FACT..... beyond doubt. But it's not FACT, it's just your opinion.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by NorfolkStreetKid View Post

                            You made a statement, which you suggested was FACT..... beyond doubt. But it's not FACT, it's just your opinion.
                            Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. - YouTube

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                            • #59
                              My opinions are FACT....MAN

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by NorfolkStreetKid View Post

                                My opinions are FACT....MAN
                                lol, but i wasn't having a go at you - i was using that clip as an example of what you were saying

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