A conundrum - Teddy, Manu or Suallii?

[mattyh]

I think Suaalii will play for the Kangaroos at the end of the year & also win a comp at the Roosters then make a move to Rugby & become a Wallaby then go to the Olympics then come back to League.
I would love to see him stay at the Chooks & become the most aggressive & best centre in the game.

i doubt suaalii will ever be the most aggressive centre in the game mick, he is physical , but really lacks the temperament of a latrell ,he is just not that cranky.

souffs are really a strange team , teah a super cranky 5/8th and fb, im not knocking it, it can work , but 2 such emotional players . theonly player similar off the top of my head is munster .

[Thirteen]

For what Teddy has done for the club and for the amount of entertainment he’s provided, I would never cut him free. I have too much respect for him. If this means we lose Sualli then so be it. Even though I do agree that we would be losing a once in a life time player. But to me loyalty is far more important.

[mattyh]

here is my proposal

keary retires 2 - 3 years ,manu to 5/8th

suaalli to fb , teds to centre

if young joe doesn't like it , he is welcome back when he returns to nrl , after finishing 5th at the world cup with the wannabes.

[Danish]

What has sualli done exactly to show he’d be a good fullback?

the bloke takes great hit ups and can catch a bomb. If this was 2004 then yep he’d be a tremendous fullback. But it’s not. Fullbacks are critical playmaker these days and also need to run great support play and they essentially coordinate the defensive line.

he’s on his way to being the best winger in the comp, and could be a devastating centre. I’ve seen nothing to show he’d transition to fullback anytime soon successfully.

Also, not sure someone his size will be cut out for fullback. Tommy T, Latrell, and Inglis before them have proven it quite solidly that big bodies break down playing fullback

[Rooster_6]

here is my proposal

keary retires 2 - 3 years ,manu to 5/8th

suaalli to fb , teds to centre

if young joe doesn't like it , he is welcome back when he returns to nrl , after finishing 5th at the world cup with the wannabes.

Yep this is the only way all 3 stay and play together long term IMO but Teddy has every right to play out his career at fullback. Billy Slater was still an exceptional fullback right up until 35yrs of age when he finally called it quits.

[King Salvo]

Yep this is the only way all 3 stay and play together long term IMO but Teddy has every right to play out his career at fullback. Billy Slater was still an exceptional fullback right up until 35yrs of age when he finally called it quits.

Sign Dominic Young as well - only on 180k at the Knights and able to field offers from November 1 2022 - contracted to 2023 with the Knights

2 metres 107 kgs and runs 100 in sub 11 seconds - only been playing league since 15 or 16 -21 yo - could be anything in the right set up

[Teddy]

Joe S has been here 5 minutes, exceptional talent but he needs to bide his time earn the right, so to speak.
Teddy is the best fullback and has been for the last 4-5 years, head and shoulders above everyone, consistent, loyal, proven winner and our leader showing no signs of slowing down, Joey Manu has been patient next in line to assume either a fullback or 5/8th role, go to the Wallabies and lose for a living (money makes losing easier to take) Joe if that’s what you want or get educated and stay with a competitive team and eventually you will get your opportunity.

[rented tracksuit]

What has sualli done exactly to show he’d be a good fullback?

the bloke takes great hit ups and can catch a bomb. If this was 2004 then yep he’d be a tremendous fullback. But it’s not. Fullbacks are critical playmaker these days and also need to run great support play and they essentially coordinate the defensive line.

he’s on his way to being the best winger in the comp, and could be a devastating centre. I’ve seen nothing to show he’d transition to fullback anytime soon successfully.

Also, not sure someone his size will be cut out for fullback. Tommy T, Latrell, and Inglis before them have proven it quite solidly that big bodies break down playing fullback

I’m in 100% agreement with this. I have thought for a while that he’s not going to be great for us as a fullback. Modern day fullbacks are either smaller with lightning quick footwork and play like jackrabbits, or as you said, break down if they are bit taller but if they do stay relatively injury free don’t seem to be as effective as a Slater or a Teddy.

[ism22]

I’m in 100% agreement with this. I have thought for a while that he’s not going to be great for us as a fullback. Modern day fullbacks are either smaller with lightning quick footwork and play like jackrabbits, or as you said, break down if they are bit taller but if they do stay relatively injury free don’t seem to be as effective as a Slater or a Teddy.

Yeah I dunno if 'Trell and GI played better at FB. That said, neither have the same fitness/physique as Sua'ali'i. IMO he must put a lot more effort into his diet and fitness training.

[NorfolkStreetKid]

I think the thread claiming we can't keep all 3 is unfounded for a start.
There is no elephant in the room.
Suaalii is worth about $600K right now, Joey maybe $700 and Teddy $1 million.
No reason we can't keep all 3.
If there had to be a choice made then I would let Joey go.
No way would I ever let Teddy go.

[Kelby]

1. Teddy

3. Joey
4. Joey

simple ............

[bondi.boy]

Reading rumours that Suaalii's management is saying the club needs to pick Tedesco or Suaalii long term, you'd think Tedesco has 3 years ahead of him as an elite fullback and probably could still be a strong fullback afterwards, maybe at 32-33 Tedesco could make the move to 6 and one of Manu/Suaalii could play fullback?

Not sure if that's what Suaalii is looking for...Manu seems fine with waiting though.



It's a money thing isn't it? A world class spine player will typically get 900k+ a year, quick Google search has told me that the highest paid centre is on 700,000 a year. If Suaalii does indeed become a world class fullback (Which I think he will) he could probably command 1.1 - 1.2 million a year.

Suaalii needs to get at the back of the fullback queue...Teddy and Manu are in front of him.
Also, Suaalii needs to demonstrate he can play his current wing position properly before he goes worrying about being a fullback.
Properly, like defending the sideline.

[roostermcgregor]

"Originally posted by Ray Stehr

We'll keep them all. All this talk is just trying to destabilise our club during the finals.

Absolutely.
This rubbish has no substance,
It is dreamed up by the anti- Rooster journos and the idiot Souffs supporter who is butthurt that Souffs don't have Suaalii.
How childish can you get?
Its aimed to create friction in a team that is threatening to make a charge for this years title.
The jealousy is out of control.
Not long ago, the same journos were carrying on about how the Roosters should let go of JWH , Keary and Angus to bring in that useless Munster. in their place
That story has now long faded away into the sunset.

I am surprised that Roosters supporters on this forum even respond to this bullsh*t and even give it time of day.
Let me tell you how to tell the difference.
If the news comes from the Roosters club website, or the mouth of Robbo, Nick or any of the Roosters players, it will have substance.
If it comes out of the mouths of journalists , opposition coaches/ players, opposition fans etc, it will generally be fantasy stuff.

Concern yourself with reality and leave fantasy to the dreamers.
Suaalii is contracted to the end of 2023, and Teddy and Manu to the end of 2024.
Worry about it then.

[Steakface]

I think the thread claiming we can't keep all 3 is unfounded for a start.
There is no elephant in the room.
Suaalii is worth about $600K right now, Joey maybe $700 and Teddy $1 million.
No reason we can't keep all 3.
If there had to be a choice made then I would let Joey go.
No way would I ever let Teddy go.

How is it not unfounded?

The fact that a so-called Rabbitoh supporter happened to raise this in the media is irrelevant to the reality.

There are two key issues here.

1. Competition. Other clubs in the NRL will have additional money to throw around for Suallii. Not even bringing Rugby into the equation. RTS and Laterell are prime examples from the recent past. Stop pretending otherwise.
2. Squad balance. Having 3 players in the 1-5 on almost $2 million (over $2 million if you include Toups) will mean other parts of the squad will absolutely be compromised - halves and the forward pack. NRL squads are a balancing act. Stop pretending otherwise.

The only somewhat sensible way really that has been raised to keep all 3 is to shift one of them to five-eighth.

And even then, is that the smartest move considering Keary would be quite superior to all of them in the no.6, and despite rumours to the contrary there is no evidence that Keary will retire due to head knocks, and may well have 3-4 more years of high quality football ahead of him.

[roostermcgregor]

NRL 360 host Paul Kent has just floated the story that the Roosters should put James Tedesco, Joseph Manu and Joseph Suaalii on the open market from 1st November this year/
"That would help the Roosters get under the Sombrero, and (the sombrero) would shrink a lot - which is the main issue/ problem they have got with the outside world."
"Why let either Manu, Tedesco or Suaalii leave when you can loose all 3 at the one time?" said Kent
Roosters management were asked to comment as to whether they thought it was a good idea
"Great idea" commented the Roosters - "We are actively negotiating with Josh Mansour, James Roberts and Phillip Sami at the moment , to replace the 3."
Management added "Those replacement players would bring a wealth of experience to our club, and it would save the club a heap of cash."
We are waiting on further developments on this ground breaking story........