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  • #16
    Marschke got bumped a few times and his service wasn’t crisp,

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Billy Gunn View Post
      If Keary is out round 1 does Hutch get the nod straight away or has Volkman stand a chance? I thought Hutchison was pedestrian in defense at times and it would be good to have some distance kicking.

      I don't think it will happen but it will be interesting to see if Volkman plays next week.
      Agree ,but it was just a trial. hutch is ahead of volkman and deservedly so. He was great for us last year In tough circumstances.

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      • #18
        Even if suspended for certain tradings (low) think you can play in the trials but the game does not count towards when you can return. Based on that it will be interesting to see if Sam gets any time.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Rooster36 View Post

          Agree ,but it was just a trial. hutch is ahead of volkman and deservedly so. He was great for us last year In tough circumstances.
          I appreciate him too but would play him over Volkman for his defence not because he is nice.

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          • #20
            Marschke is not eligible to play until Rd 11.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
              Marschke is not eligible to play until Rd 11.
              This years rule say you can use players outside the 30 to cover for covid cases

              We have communicated to the clubs that there is an opportunity for them to access players outside the top 30 before round 11, on the basis of the impact of a COVID positive case.

              “Provided that the salary cap auditor has been provided evidence that there has been a positive COVID case for a player, then clubs are able to access players from outside their top 30 list in a controlled manner.”

              In 2021 they allowed clubs to use their development contract players from round 11 instead of the usual after June 30 which was the normal date pre-covid

              Round 11 is still the case to be able to use Development contract players unless for covid reasons which then requires the approval of the salary cap auditor to include that player in the squad/team.

              Sydney Roosters Development Contract players for 2022 are

              Benny Marschke/ Ronald Volkman/Ben Thomas/ Tuku Hau Tapuha

              https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/02/17/...r-covid-cases/
              Last edited by King Salvo; 02-21-2022, 06:55 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                This years rule say you can use players outside the 30 to cover for covid cases

                We have communicated to the clubs that there is an opportunity for them to access players outside the top 30 before round 11, on the basis of the impact of a COVID positive case.

                “Provided that the salary cap auditor has been provided evidence that there has been a positive COVID case for a player, then clubs are able to access players from outside their top 30 list in a controlled manner.”

                In 2021 they allowed clubs to use their development contract players from round 11 instead of the usual after June 30 which was the normal date pre-covid

                Round 11 is still the case to be able to use Development contract players unless for covid reasons which then requires the approval of the salary cap auditor to include that player in the squad/team.

                Sydney Roosters Development Contract players for 2022 are

                Benny Marschke/ Ronald Volkman/Ben Thomas/ Tuku Hau Tapuha

                https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/02/17/...r-covid-cases/
                What does it actually mean to have a Development contract?
                If you look at the Roosters website & look at the squad of 30 those 4 players are in the top 30 Roosters squad. 3 of the 4 have played FG so I dont understand what a Development contract is.
                I thought all clubs could have 30 players not 26 with 4 development players.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                  What does it actually mean to have a Development contract?
                  If you look at the Roosters website & look at the squad of 30 those 4 players are in the top 30 Roosters squad. 3 of the 4 have played FG so I dont understand what a Development contract is.
                  I thought all clubs could have 30 players not 26 with 4 development players.
                  Development Contracts

                  A club can have up to six development players each season. There’s no rule on age or experience, it’s entirely up to the club how they use those spots. A development player earns $60,000 and is not included in the top 30, but they do train full time with the NRL squad allowing them to further their career towards being a full time 30 squad member NRL player in the future.

                  All clubs can have up 30 NRL squad players and up to 6 development contract players plus extended bench players.

                  These extended bench contracts replaced the second tier contracts - not sure how many of these players they can have- as many as they want I suppose as they are not paid for being this until they are called up to the NRL squad as a full time NRL squad member.

                  When these extended bench players are called up to the NRL squad full time they usually earn $1000 per week and up to $3000 for each NRL game they play.

                  I think the Ben's - Marschke and Thomas plus Abbey were on this type of money- Marschke was then upgraded to a development contract when he became a more permanent NRL squad member

                  Reggie players who are not NRL squad players earn between 5 to 15k per season and may receive sign on fees and match payments (win or lose) in additional to their contract. As part time players they train 2 to 3 times a week.

                  Jersey flegg players are paid but I don't know how much.

                  SG Ball/Harold Matthews/Tarsha Gale/Central Coast Roosters Andrew Johns and Laurie Daley cup players are not paid i understand but can be signed to short/long term contracts.

                  Something obviously Penrith didn't do when Isaiya Katoa signed for the Dolphins. Bit late to be complaining about it - if he is as good as they say then they should have signed him to a contract.

                  https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/se...3223c918c782f9

                  You can't stockpile players and or do something the Bronco's used to do or maybe still do - sign a stack of kids to scholarships. Won't be long before a draft (internal/external) is proposed again and much more strongly plus higher compensation fees than they currently are - NSWRL

                  NSWRL Development Fee Policy Overview At State Rugby League level, Development Fees are intended to achieve the following objectives:

                   Assist Development Clubs through financial compensation for the loss of players
                   Encourage Development Clubs to continue their development programs
                   Discourage Recruitment Clubs from “Cherry picking”
                   Discourage Development Clubs from “Stockpiling”
                   Restrict external parties from recruiting too many of NSW’s best players in order to create internal competitions of the highest quality.

                  https://www.nswrl.com.au/siteassets/...guidelines.pdf
                  Last edited by King Salvo; 02-21-2022, 11:47 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                    Development Contracts

                    A club can have up to six development players each season. There’s no rule on age or experience, it’s entirely up to the club how they use those spots. A development player earns $60,000 and is not included in the top 30, but they do train full time with the NRL squad allowing them to further their career towards being a full time 30 squad member NRL player in the future.

                    All clubs can have up 30 NRL squad players and up to 6 development contract players plus extended bench players.

                    These extended bench contracts replaced the second tier contracts - not sure how many of these players they can have- as many as they want I suppose as they are not paid for being this until they are called up to the NRL squad as a full time NRL squad member.

                    When these extended bench players are called up to the NRL squad full time they usually earn $1000 per week and up to $3000 for each NRL game they play.

                    I think the Ben's - Marschke and Thomas plus Abbey were on this type of money- Marschke was then upgraded to a development contract when he became a more permanent NRL squad member

                    Reggie players who are not NRL squad players earn between 5 to 15k per season and may receive sign on fees and match payments (win or lose) in additional to their contract. As part time players they train 2 to 3 times a week.

                    Jersey flegg players are paid but I don't know how much.

                    SG Ball/Harold Matthews/Tarsha Gale/Central Coast Roosters Andrew Johns and Laurie Daley cup players are not paid i understand but can be signed to short/long term contracts.

                    Something obviously Penrith didn't do when Isaiya Katoa signed for the Dolphins. Bit late to be complaining about it - if he is as good as they say then they should have signed him to a contract.

                    https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/se...3223c918c782f9

                    You can't stockpile players and or do something the Bronco's used to do or maybe still do - sign a stack of kids to scholarships. Won't be long before a draft (internal/external) is proposed again and much more strongly plus higher compensation fees than they currently are - NSWRL

                    NSWRL Development Fee Policy Overview At State Rugby League level, Development Fees are intended to achieve the following objectives:

                     Assist Development Clubs through financial compensation for the loss of players
                     Encourage Development Clubs to continue their development programs
                     Discourage Recruitment Clubs from “Cherry picking”
                     Discourage Development Clubs from “Stockpiling”
                     Restrict external parties from recruiting too many of NSW’s best players in order to create internal competitions of the highest quality.

                    https://www.nswrl.com.au/siteassets/...guidelines.pdf
                    Thanks King.
                    So the Chooks can buy another 4 players to make up the 30 man squad plus have the 4 development players ?
                    If development players get $60k per season x 4 it’s not part of the cap is that right?
                    Could the Chooks spend their cap on 26 players & then have 4 to 6 development players on 60k each not included in the cap?

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                    • #25
                      I’d be interested to see how Atoni goes and see if he makes Rd1.

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                      • #26
                        My rd1 team for what it's worth.
                        1 Tedesco
                        2 Tupou
                        3 Momorovski
                        4 Manu
                        5 Sualli
                        6 Keary
                        7 Walker
                        13 Radley
                        12 Sitili
                        11 Crighton
                        10 Collins
                        9 Verrils
                        8 Warea Hargreaves

                        14 Watson
                        15 N Butcher
                        16 Taukiaho
                        17 Hutchison

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                        • #27
                          I just realised that Verrils is suspended for rd 1 so In goes Watson to 9 and Keirhan to 14.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ray Stehr View Post
                            My rd1 team for what it's worth.
                            1 Tedesco
                            2 Tupou
                            3 Momorovski
                            4 Manu
                            5 Sualli
                            6 Keary
                            7 Walker
                            13 Radley
                            12 Sitili
                            11 Crighton
                            10 Collins
                            9 Verrils
                            8 Warea Hargreaves

                            14 Watson
                            15 N Butcher
                            16 Taukiaho
                            17 Hutchison
                            Verrills is suspended for Rnd 1, and Marschke can't play until after Rnd11 (unless Covid strikes), so we may have to use Lussick first up.

                            I also don't think we'd carry both Watson & Hutch on the bench. I'd expect to see Egan or maybe even Atoni in place of Hutchison.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                              Thanks King.
                              So the Chooks can buy another 4 players to make up the 30 man squad plus have the 4 development players ?
                              If development players get $60k per season x 4 it’s not part of the cap is that right?
                              Could the Chooks spend their cap on 26 players & then have 4 to 6 development players on 60k each not included in the cap?
                              Chooks have 28 players out of the 30 allowable under contract so 2 spots remaining - the up to 6 development players which the Chooks have 4 of are not included in the 30 player NRL squad numbers nor is their salary as it's capped @60k under the 5 year collective bargaining agreement which I think expires at the end of this year (2022)

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templa..._Current_Squad

                              At least 24 Top 30 players must be contracted by the first Monday in November and 29 Top 30 players by the first Monday in March and 30 Top 30 players by the first Monday in August.

                              A team doesn't have to fill all 30 NRL player squad numbers and or spend the whole cap although Clubs are required to spend at least 95% of the Salary Cap. There was some talk about allowing clubs to carryover any unspent cap to the next season where it has to be used?
                              Last edited by King Salvo; 02-22-2022, 03:25 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Waylander View Post

                                Verrills is suspended for Rnd 1, and Marschke can't play until after Rnd11 (unless Covid strikes), so we may have to use Lussick first up.

                                I also don't think we'd carry both Watson & Hutch on the bench. I'd expect to see Egan or maybe even Atoni in place of Hutchison.
                                I think it maybe Watson and Lammy - Lussick and Keighran a chance I suppose

                                1 Tedesco (C)
                                2 Tupou
                                3 Momirovski
                                4 Manu
                                5 Suaalli or Naiqama
                                6 Keary or Hutch
                                7 Walker
                                13 Radley
                                12 Sitili
                                11 Crighton
                                10 Collins
                                9 Watson
                                8 Waerea Hargreaves (V/C)

                                14 Lam
                                15 N Butcher
                                16 Taukeiaho
                                17 Baker
                                18 Atoni
                                19 E Butcher
                                20 Lussick
                                21 Keighran
                                22 Smith
                                Last edited by King Salvo; 02-22-2022, 04:19 PM.

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