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  • #31
    Originally posted by Johnny Bravo View Post
    The longest stint Soward ever got in first grade with us was 4 games straight. Halves need a fark load more time than that to establish themselves. He had 22 games for us over 3.5 years. He lived in fear of being dropped. At St George he's never really had that fear, and look where he is now.

    In 2 of his first 3 games he was MOTM

    In the last he was MOTM

    It was no coincidence in all those games he started.

    But Finchy didnt like to be overshadowed and ricky loved finchy and didnt want to admit Soward was the man for the Job.

    It had nothing to do with underperforming, it was limited game time and playing in every position bar the one he should have been

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    • #32
      I hope Soward being groomed for NSW 5/8th is a gee up.

      He hides out pretty well in the Dragons line, however there is no place to hide in Origin.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by OMR View Post
        Creagh and Poore are TWO players, and the pack is made up of SIX, do the maths.

        WE had Mason ( ex international and SOO) Fitz ( ditto) Myles ( current SOO ), Lopini ( international I think).

        Let us not kid ourselves, we have the players, what we don't have is self confidence and proper coaching.
        Even the commentators said what Ive always said. If your pack dominates, the half will shine. Even the spastic Hornby is looking good...because of his forwards.

        Soward showed that there is no substitute for speed. And the time his forward give him, make teh kid's kicking game shine. Great touch footy player

        The best thing that happened is we let him go. Because he would have rotted at Newtown behind our coaching structure. He would have been useless in our team. Wayne Benett is the man.
        Last edited by melon....; 07-04-2009, 09:49 AM.
        Alcohol never solved any life problems.....then again neither did milk.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BigMike View Post
          I hope Soward being groomed for NSW 5/8th is a gee up.

          He hides out pretty well in the Dragons line, however there is no place to hide in Origin.
          He isnt made for Origin. Mind you he's better than the pretender Wallace.
          Alcohol never solved any life problems.....then again neither did milk.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BigMike View Post
            I hope Soward being groomed for NSW 5/8th is a gee up.

            He hides out pretty well in the Dragons line, however there is no place to hide in Origin.
            Geez, have you ever watched Lockeyer in origin? Without Carroll and co. his tackling would've led him to be dropped years ago.

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            • #36
              This bring tears to my eyes. We'll be saying the same next year when Shack is running around in the blue 'n' gold.

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              • #37
                Roosters 'don't regret releasing Soward'

                Sydney Roosters skipper Craig Fitzgibbon says the club are not kicking themselves about releasing Jamie Soward to St George Illawarra in 2007.

                Soward has scored four tries in two games against his former team this season and was once again their tormentor in chief on Friday as the Dragons sealed a 34-12 NRL victory at WIN Jubilee Oval.

                Despite this form, Fitzgibbon said the decision to allow Soward to leave midway through the 2007 campaign, having played just 22 first grade games, was sound, but admitted he always thought the 24-year-old five-eighth would fulfil the potential he showed as a junior.

                "When he was with us we were struggling and he is not the sort of player who is going to go well when you are struggling," Fitzgibbon said.

                "But if your team is going good he has that knack of scoring tries from anywhere.

                "I think with us at that time it was always going to be hard to show his true potential, but now he is in a team that is coming first he is showing that potential.

                "When you are down and out, as we were at the time, the sort of flamboyant player he is he may be able to jag a try for us but we were just trying to grind our way out of a hole.

                "You could always see he had something but we had Mitchell (Pearce) at the time and we are certainly not kicking ourselves because we have him instead of Jamie."

                Roosters coach Brad Fittler said he was pleased to see to see Soward doing so well at the Dragons, but admitted it was tough watching him do so well against his side.

                "I am disappointed that he plays good against us, but he is a good kid and it is great to see a kid reaching his potential," Fittler said.

                "I think everyone at the club saw what they are seeing now, but not so consistently he is making real good decisions and is going really well."

                "As a half when your side is going well when you are kicking the ball and holding onto the ball you tend to play better, but he is going real good."

                © 2009 AAP

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by melon.... View Post
                  Even the commentators said what Ive always said. If your pack dominates, the half will shine. Even the spastic Hornby is looking good...because of his forwards.

                  Soward showed that there is no substitute for speed. And the time his forward give him, make teh kid's kicking game shine. Great touch footy player

                  The best thing that happened is we let him go. Because he would have rotted at Newtown behind our coaching structure. He would have been useless in our team. Wayne Benett is the man.
                  and face it he was never going to be better than the 1/2 back we had at the time.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by free willy View Post
                    This bring tears to my eyes. We'll be saying the same next year when Shack is running around in the blue 'n' gold.
                    The difference is Shack doesn't want to be here, Soward did

                    We looked after Shack through his injuries and could have easily sent him on his way but we didnt and when it came time for him to repay us he walked, and i dont think he should play anywhere near first grade this year

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by pearcesworstnightmare View Post
                      Soward will be origin 5/8 in game 3
                      In that case itll be QLD 3-0. I hope the kid's confidence doesnt get shattered, playing behind a beaten pack.
                      Alcohol never solved any life problems.....then again neither did milk.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by free willy View Post
                        and face it he was never going to be better than the 1/2 back we had at the time.
                        **** off Tri.
                        Alcohol never solved any life problems.....then again neither did milk.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Fitzy55 View Post
                          The difference is Shack doesn't want to be here, Soward did

                          We looked after Shack through his injuries and could have easily sent him on his way but we didnt and when it came time for him to repay us he walked, and i dont think he should play anywhere near first grade this year
                          How do you know that? I too thought that Shack owed the Roosters but I guess he didn't feel that way.
                          "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                          Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #43
                            i think this article reiterates what a lot of people have been saying

                            Roosters 'don't regret releasing Soward'
                            Ian McCullough
                            July 4, 2009 - 11:59AM

                            Sydney Roosters skipper Craig Fitzgibbon says the club are not kicking themselves about releasing Jamie Soward to St George Illawarra in 2007.

                            Soward has scored four tries in two games against his former team this season and was once again their tormentor in chief on Friday as the Dragons sealed a 34-12 NRL victory at WIN Jubilee Oval.

                            Despite this form, Fitzgibbon said the decision to allow Soward to leave midway through the 2007 campaign, having played just 22 first grade games, was sound, but admitted he always thought the 24-year-old five-eighth would fulfil the potential he showed as a junior.

                            "When he was with us we were struggling and he is not the sort of player who is going to go well when you are struggling
                            ," Fitzgibbon said.

                            "But if your team is going good he has that knack of scoring tries from anywhere.

                            "I think with us at that time it was always going to be hard to show his true potential, but now he is in a team that is coming first he is showing that potential.

                            "When you are down and out, as we were at the time, the sort of flamboyant player he is he may be able to jag a try for us but we were just trying to grind our way out of a hole.

                            "You could always see he had something but we had Mitchell (Pearce) at the time and we are certainly not kicking ourselves because we have him instead of Jamie."

                            Roosters coach Brad Fittler said he was pleased to see to see Soward doing so well at the Dragons, but admitted it was tough watching him do so well against his side.

                            "I am disappointed that he plays good against us, but he is a good kid and it is great to see a kid reaching his potential," Fittler said.

                            "I think everyone at the club saw what they are seeing now, but not so consistently he is making real good decisions and is going really well."

                            "As a half when your side is going well when you are kicking the ball and holding onto the ball you tend to play better, but he is going real good."

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by melon.... View Post
                              In that case itll be QLD 3-0. I hope the kid's confidence doesnt get shattered, playing behind a beaten pack.

                              It would be 3-0 with whoever plays, so throwing him in the deep end should not matter.

                              Just because it shattered Pearce does not mean it will happen to soward.

                              Take bias and bullshit out of your answer

                              who are the 2 form halves that should be representing NSW in origin 3.

                              Forget about all the crap, we are talking form.

                              Kimmorley / Mullen halfback

                              Soward 5/8

                              On form that is how it should be.

                              Lets not forget he hepls create that dominant forward pck with his pin point kicking game, he gets them field position and repeat sets time and time again.

                              I know he knocked back your sexual advances all those years ago, but its time to forgive and forget, dont you think????

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TheLoneRooster View Post
                                How do you know that? I too thought that Shack owed the Roosters but I guess he didn't feel that way.
                                If Shack wanted to be here he would've stayed with a little less money

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