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  • #16
    LOL @ SOUFFS and PAUL CRAPLEY !!!

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    • #17
      Nothing wrong with the changes it's just so many coaches are still thinking its 2019 or previously years with their structured game plan of multiple hit ups out the back with decoys and kicks on the last - oh lets keep doing this as we love the Storms Wrestle/Judo and Jui-Jitsu defence in slowing the play the ball down tactics.

      And lets keep kicking off long left or right even though when the points are racking up as that's what the coach wants and they might the drop the ball this time doh

      Oh I can't tackle anymore as I only know one way - catch and hold as they are supposed to be running straight at me not moving the ball left or right with players in motion , in support and offloading

      Just a pile of excuses for teams and coaches that haven't adapted to the new game when they had plenty of notice of these - increasing the ball in play with more set restarts for offences and handovers instead of scrums etc and the so called crackdown they have been the rules for yonks for foul pay and misconduct.

      What were teams doing during the off season still training for structured play and learning some new wrestling/judo and jui-jitsu moves they can use in defence which are becoming very much obsolete with the ball being in play longer and being moved left or right to avoid the wrestle etc and run the defence around and ragged.

      Move the ball or lose the game if teams continue on with structured game plans and defence now is about straight line and line speed in meeting the ball carrier before the advantage line.

      Its the same game and the same need of limiting errors, penalties , set restarts . missed tackles and high completion rates and good kicking game.

      Chooks are around 60 odd % set completions on average which people have said was around the mark in 2018/2019 or a little higher - not sure - but the defence was much better back then and could cover for the errors they made but not this team - when they make an error they tend to concede points.

      Chooks need set completions in the 90% plus range and need to address their defence issues for starters
      Last edited by King Salvo; 07-09-2021, 06:16 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
        Nothing wrong with the changes it's just so many coaches are still thinking its 2019 or previously years with their structured game plan of multiple hit ups out the back with decoys and kicks on the last - oh lets keep doing this as we love the Storms Wrestle/Judo and Jui-Jitsu defence in slowing the play the ball down tactics.

        And lets keep kicking off long left or right even though when the points are racking up as that's what the coach wants and they might the drop the ball this time doh

        Oh I can't tackle anymore as I only know one way - catch and hold as they are supposed to be running straight at me not moving the ball left or right with players in motion , in support and offloading

        Just a pile of excuses for teams and coaches that haven't adapted to the new game when they had plenty of notice of these - increasing the ball in play with more set restarts for offences and handovers instead of scrums etc and the so called crackdown they have been the rules for yonks for foul pay and misconduct.

        What were teams doing during the off season still training for structured play and learning some new wrestling/judo and jui-jitsu moves they can use in defence which are becoming very much obsolete with the ball being in play longer and being moved left or right to avoid the wrestle etc and run the defence around and ragged.

        Move the ball or lose the game if teams continue on with structured game plans and defence now is about straight line and line speed in meeting the ball carrier before the advantage line.

        Its the same game and the same need of limiting errors, penalties , set restarts . missed tackles and high completion rates and good kicking game.

        Chooks are around 60 odd % set completions on average which people have said was around the mark in 2018/2019 or a little higher - not sure - but the defence was much better back then and could cover for the errors they made but not this team - when they make an error they tend to concede points.

        Chooks need set completions in the 90% plus range and need to address their defence issues for starters
        A good analysis King and I agree with how the game has changed and the adjustments needed to win footy games these days

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        • #19
          Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
          Nothing wrong with the changes it's just so many coaches are still thinking its 2019 or previously years with their structured game plan of multiple hit ups out the back with decoys and kicks on the last - oh lets keep doing this as we love the Storms Wrestle/Judo and Jui-Jitsu defence in slowing the play the ball down tactics.

          And lets keep kicking off long left or right even though when the points are racking up as that's what the coach wants and they might the drop the ball this time doh

          Oh I can't tackle anymore as I only know one way - catch and hold as they are supposed to be running straight at me not moving the ball left or right with players in motion , in support and offloading

          Just a pile of excuses for teams and coaches that haven't adapted to the new game when they had plenty of notice of these - increasing the ball in play with more set restarts for offences and handovers instead of scrums etc and the so called crackdown they have been the rules for yonks for foul pay and misconduct.

          What were teams doing during the off season still training for structured play and learning some new wrestling/judo and jui-jitsu moves they can use in defence which are becoming very much obsolete with the ball being in play longer and being moved left or right to avoid the wrestle etc and run the defence around and ragged.

          Move the ball or lose the game if teams continue on with structured game plans and defence now is about straight line and line speed in meeting the ball carrier before the advantage line.

          Its the same game and the same need of limiting errors, penalties , set restarts . missed tackles and high completion rates and good kicking game.

          Chooks are around 60 odd % set completions on average which people have said was around the mark in 2018/2019 or a little higher - not sure - but the defence was much better back then and could cover for the errors they made but not this team - when they make an error they tend to concede points.

          Chooks need set completions in the 90% plus range and need to address their defence issues for starters
          Well said King.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
            Nothing wrong with the changes it's just so many coaches are still thinking its 2019 or previously years with their structured game plan of multiple hit ups out the back with decoys and kicks on the last - oh lets keep doing this as we love the Storms Wrestle/Judo and Jui-Jitsu defence in slowing the play the ball down tactics.

            And lets keep kicking off long left or right even though when the points are racking up as that's what the coach wants and they might the drop the ball this time doh

            Oh I can't tackle anymore as I only know one way - catch and hold as they are supposed to be running straight at me not moving the ball left or right with players in motion , in support and offloading

            Just a pile of excuses for teams and coaches that haven't adapted to the new game when they had plenty of notice of these - increasing the ball in play with more set restarts for offences and handovers instead of scrums etc and the so called crackdown they have been the rules for yonks for foul pay and misconduct.

            What were teams doing during the off season still training for structured play and learning some new wrestling/judo and jui-jitsu moves they can use in defence which are becoming very much obsolete with the ball being in play longer and being moved left or right to avoid the wrestle etc and run the defence around and ragged.

            Move the ball or lose the game if teams continue on with structured game plans and defence now is about straight line and line speed in meeting the ball carrier before the advantage line.

            Its the same game and the same need of limiting errors, penalties , set restarts . missed tackles and high completion rates and good kicking game.

            Chooks are around 60 odd % set completions on average which people have said was around the mark in 2018/2019 or a little higher - not sure - but the defence was much better back then and could cover for the errors they made but not this team - when they make an error they tend to concede points.

            Chooks need set completions in the 90% plus range and need to address their defence issues for starters
            If you're going spew nonsense, at least make sure it's accurate nonsense.
            The Roosters average 76% completion not '60 odd'. This is the same as 2018 and 1% higher than 2019.
            You always harp on about how completion % is the key to victory, yet the Bulldogs have the best completion rate in the comp at 80% and sit last on the ladder that counts.

            You're just trying to make it sound like you're smarter than everyone else yet you are clearly the biggest V'landys stooge going around. Don't take that as an insult though, it's a hard award to win with the likes of Paul Crawley, Paul Kent and James Hooper going around

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BenCumminsIsACheat View Post

              If you're going spew nonsense, at least make sure it's accurate nonsense.
              The Roosters average 76% completion not '60 odd'. This is the same as 2018 and 1% higher than 2019.
              You always harp on about how completion % is the key to victory, yet the Bulldogs have the best completion rate in the comp at 80% and sit last on the ladder that counts.

              You're just trying to make it sound like you're smarter than everyone else yet you are clearly the biggest V'landys stooge going around. Don't take that as an insult though, it's a hard award to win with the likes of Paul Crawley, Paul Kent and James Hooper going around
              Oh, you just ripped that cretin Saliva a new one. He doesn’t even know the stats he so freely throws around. Dumbasses who try and sound intelligent are soon found out by getting the facts wrong. What an imbecile. Stick to playing World of Warcraft in your basement you dribbling fool.

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              • #22
                I have to hand it to v"Landys, Crawley, and every other supporter of the 6 again rule and quick play the balls, lack of stoppage time, manicured tackling techniques and all the other things that have made the game "more exciting".
                I agree - there is nothing more exciting than watching try after try after try after try,, and blowout scorelines of 66- nil.
                I can't wait to watch the highlights reels, and watch some idiot commentator describe how Cody Walker's passes need to be framed in a museum, when he (and plenty of others these days , throw 10 of those per game)
                With all the excitement, I just piss my pants on the lounge watching it all.
                RIP old fashioned Rugby :League, when it was a battle/ contest of Physical dominance vs Skill..

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                • #23
                  The crackdown and 6 agains are bad. What is far worse is the inconsistency of their application.

                  Rads was sin binned for a minor late hit vs the Broncos. But last night Liam Knight hit Tom Dearden late and high after a kick and it's deemed all good.

                  We only have to fart to concede mountains of 6 again calls; often in quick succession. Meanwhile the opposition can lie all over us for days and we get nothing.

                  We have won 2 penalty counts from 15 games. Now whilst some Roosters fans might think that's great, I personally think it's cheating.

                  So the problem is 3 pronged:

                  1) the silly, ill thought out rule changes
                  2) the quality of the refereeing
                  3) the impartiality and integrity of the refereeing

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Team Evil View Post


                    What game of footy would you rather watch: A match dominated by go-slow wrestling tactics, or players like Tommy Trbojevic and Kalyn Ponga being allowed to do their thing?
                    I'd rather see a game with a score line of 12-10 than I would 42-24

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
                      The crackdown and 6 agains are bad. What is far worse is the inconsistency of their application.

                      Rads was sin binned for a minor late hit vs the Broncos. But last night Liam Knight hit Tom Dearden late and high after a kick and it's deemed all good.

                      We only have to fart to concede mountains of 6 again calls; often in quick succession. Meanwhile the opposition can lie all over us for days and we get nothing.

                      We have won 2 penalty counts from 15 games. Now whilst some Roosters fans might think that's great, I personally think it's cheating.

                      So the problem is 3 pronged:

                      1) the silly, ill thought out rule changes
                      2) the quality of the refereeing
                      3) the impartiality and integrity of the refereeing
                      Nailed it TS!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
                        The crackdown and 6 agains are bad. What is far worse is the inconsistency of their application.

                        Rads was sin binned for a minor late hit vs the Broncos. But last night Liam Knight hit Tom Dearden late and high after a kick and it's deemed all good.

                        We only have to fart to concede mountains of 6 again calls; often in quick succession. Meanwhile the opposition can lie all over us for days and we get nothing.

                        We have won 2 penalty counts from 15 games. Now whilst some Roosters fans might think that's great, I personally think it's cheating.

                        So the problem is 3 pronged:

                        1) the silly, ill thought out rule changes
                        2) the quality of the refereeing
                        3) the impartiality and integrity of the refereeing
                        In the Fri night game Chechin showed that he is either incompetent or biased. Within minutes of each incident he lets the South’s one go but sin bins Cowboys. This was after managing south’s back into the game. Chechin is a stooge of the NRL.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Grant Hedger View Post
                          In the Fri night game Chechin showed that he is either incompetent or biased. Within minutes of each incident he lets the South’s one go but sin bins Cowboys. This was after managing south’s back into the game. Chechin is a stooge of the NRL.
                          Souffs have benefited from blatant game management for years - peaking in the 2014 rort.

                          The refs favouritism towards Souffs, in contrast to their disdain for us, is a statistical fact.

                          Just to make that clear - this is not an opinion. It is a statistical fact.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
                            Souffs have benefited from blatant game management for years - peaking in the 2014 rort.

                            The refs favouritism towards Souffs, in contrast to their disdain for us, is a statistical fact.

                            Just to make that clear - this is not an opinion. It is a statistical fact.
                            Im just wondering why you think the refs would favour Souths & unfairly go after the Chooks?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                              Im just wondering why you think the refs would favour Souths & unfairly go after the Chooks?
                              One could write an essay on this but in short it's the classic old Aussie and even more so Rugby League fable of "everyone loves an underdog".

                              Souffs are viewed as "the battlers", or the "Pride of the League". We are viewed as the "latte sippers from the fancy Eastern suburbs". This was literally channel 9s intro into the 2014 Prelim.

                              The referees pandering to Souffs, and nit picking at us - as undeniable in the stats - is just a symptom of these stereotypes and Australia's fetish for mediocrity over self made successful people.

                              Some of it is subconscious. But sometimes, i.e. Cummins and the MRC, it's a little more conscious.
                              Last edited by Tommy Smith; 07-10-2021, 06:02 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
                                One could write an essay on this but in short it's the classic old Aussie and even more so Rugby League fable of "everyone loves an underdog".

                                Souffs are viewed as "the battlers", or the "Pride of the League". We are viewed as the "latte sippers from the fancy Eastern suburbs". This was literally channel 9s intro into the 2014 Prelim.

                                The referees pandering to Souffs, and nit picking at us - as undeniable in the stats - is just a symptom of these stereotypes and Australia's fetish for mediocrity over self made successful people.

                                Some of it is subconscious. But sometimes, i.e. Cummins and the MRC, it's a little more conscious.
                                Like 2014, the Vermin have received a massive penalty advantage again this year - their penalty for and against differential is close to +40, well ahead of any other team. The Roosters are closer to -40. And this is in a year where penalties are meant to be fewer in number.

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