Tragic Round

[King Salvo]

If that's the case wouldn't we have seen that with just the normal 10 minute sin bin in place?

mmm the two Parra players could be used as examples of this where their foul play went unpunished on the field- some may say it was deliberate foul play and watching a lot of other incidents over the years it could be deemed they were too but refs rarely sent players off or even sin binned them so they stayed on the field and would only be suspended when charged by the MRC after the event.

If it happened in round 10 both Parra players would have been sent off as the incidents would be dealt with on the field as they should have always been.

100 % on the right path V'Landys and Abdo - only the dino's are really complaining about it.

Any player thinking that's it's okay to get whacked in the head and it's accidental and part of the game etc should sign a waiver surrendering any right or claim in taking any legal action against any club and the league for any future health issues they may suffer from a result of playing the game - I bet none would

[BenCumminsIsACheat]

They are not new rules and i think people complaining don't understand this very fact - They are current rules which have been around since day dot - it was the case of the NRL not enforcing them and leaving it up to the MRC/Judiciary to deal with foul play instead of on the field by the match officials as it should be and now will be.

These old players live in the dark age with the oh in my day you would just get up off the ground and played on if you were flattened in a high tackle.

Why would you need more consultation with clubs and players about enforcing the existing rules though?

Good on V'Landys and Abdo for fixing this blight on the game up with more to be done with other tackles and wrestling and judo techniques in getting rid of them- players and coaches have to change their ways simple as that - the rules will now be fully enforced which can only be good for the game. Bring on the 2 conferences too


https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...cfe66544db8e48

Oh dear. You're a 2-conferencer? That explains a lot

Isn't the impact of changing the enforcement or interpretation of a rule effectively the same as introducing a new rule?

[King Salvo]

Oh dear. You're a 2-conferencer? That explains a lot

Isn't the impact of changing the enforcement or interpretation of a rule effectively the same as introducing a new rule?

Nothing wrong with 2 conferences - Sydney one and non Sydney one - Sydney one 3 grades on the same day/night

No they are the same rules- just like road rules - they have double demerits during Public Holiday periods -same rules just double the points for the offence


SECTION 15 PLAYER’S MISCONDUCT Definition of 1. A player is guilty of misconduct if he: misconduct
(a) trips, kicks or strikes another player.
(b) when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly.
(c) drops knees first on to an opponent who is on the ground
(d) uses any dangerous throw when effecting a tackle.
(e) deliberately and continuously breaks the Laws of the Game.
(f) uses offensive or obscene language.
(g) disputes a decision of the Referee or Touch Judge.
(h) re-enters the field of play without the permission of the Referee or a Touch Judge having previously temporarily retired from the game.
(i) behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game.
(j) deliberately obstructs an opponent who is not in possession.
(k) uses a shoulder charge on an opponent
(l) applies any unnecessary pressure or twists, including grapples, crushers or performs a “chicken wing” style hold on a player in possession.
(m) forcefully spears at the legs of a player in possession, exposing him to unnecessary risk of injury.

[BenCumminsIsACheat]

Nothing wrong with 2 conferences - Sydney one and non Sydney one - Sydney one 3 grades on the same day/night

No they are the same rules- just like road rules - they have double demerits during Public Holiday periods -same rules just double the points for the offence


SECTION 15 PLAYER’S MISCONDUCT Definition of 1. A player is guilty of misconduct if he: misconduct
(a) trips, kicks or strikes another player.
(b) when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly.
(c) drops knees first on to an opponent who is on the ground
(d) uses any dangerous throw when effecting a tackle.
(e) deliberately and continuously breaks the Laws of the Game.
(f) uses offensive or obscene language.
(g) disputes a decision of the Referee or Touch Judge.
(h) re-enters the field of play without the permission of the Referee or a Touch Judge having previously temporarily retired from the game.
(i) behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game.
(j) deliberately obstructs an opponent who is not in possession.
(k) uses a shoulder charge on an opponent
(l) applies any unnecessary pressure or twists, including grapples, crushers or performs a “chicken wing” style hold on a player in possession.
(m) forcefully spears at the legs of a player in possession, exposing him to unnecessary risk of injury.

I'm sure if they introduced double demerits permanently most people wouldn't be too happy. That's what the NRL is doing.
I agree that no one wants to see high tackles and obviously you're not allowed to make contact with the head but I think V'landys has failed to appropriately distinguish between accidents and true deliberate foul play without ruining the integrity and competition of the game

[Grant Hedger]

Are the stooges on here suggesting that nothing has really changed and cheering on 2 conferences serious? Next they’ll be advocating for the introduction of NFL style helmets. PVL is like the old time guy going from town to town selling snake oil. There is nothing of substance in the bottle. He’ll eventually be run out of town when the town folk realize he’s a charlatan.

[dice]

V'landys on 100% Footy gaslighting the clubs with something like "blowout scores not caused by the rule changes, they are caused by clubs not spending their money properly". fmd. He went onto say the games are more entertaining. Some great tries being scored in the blowout games. Gus pointed out the supporters of losing teams getting flogged every week don't see it that way.

V'landys is the administrative equivalent of Seibold at the Broncos. F*ck him off before it's too late.


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[BenCumminsIsACheat]

V'landys on 100% Footy gaslighting the clubs with something like "blowout scores not caused by the rule changes, they are caused by clubs not spending their money properly". fmd. He went onto say the games are more entertaining. Some great tries being scored in the blowout games. Gus pointed out the supporters of losing teams getting flogged every week don't see it that way.

V'landys is the administrative equivalent of Seibold at the Broncos. F*ck him off before it's too late.


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The stats disagree with poor Mr V'landys on this one.
And it's only going to get worse with all the send off nonsense

[Grant Hedger]

V'landys on 100% Footy gaslighting the clubs with something like "blowout scores not caused by the rule changes, they are caused by clubs not spending their money properly". fmd. He went onto say the games are more entertaining. Some great tries being scored in the blowout games. Gus pointed out the supporters of losing teams getting flogged every week don't see it that way.

V'landys is the administrative equivalent of Seibold at the Broncos. F*ck him off before it's too late.


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That PVL dope said that ruuby leeg is not about winning on the same show. Get lost you clueless git.

[Recky62]

V'landys on 100% Footy gaslighting the clubs with something like "blowout scores not caused by the rule changes, they are caused by clubs not spending their money properly". fmd. He went onto say the games are more entertaining. Some great tries being scored in the blowout games. Gus pointed out the supporters of losing teams getting flogged every week don't see it that way


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How is it PVL’s fault that clubs don’t recruit properly ?, how is it PVLs fault that current players have virtually no idea how to tackle below the hips ? ...how is it PVLs fault that the email at the start of the season about the forthcoming crack down ended up in the spam file ?.....answer none of it is his fault ,his just gotta clean it up

[dice]

How is it PVL’s fault that clubs don’t recruit properly ?, how is it PVLs fault that current players have virtually no idea how to tackle below the hips ? ...how is it PVLs fault that the email at the start of the season about the forthcoming crack down ended up in the spam file ?.....answer none of it is his fault ,his just gotta clean it up

Is that you Peter?

Do you understand what Ricky Stuart means when he said "let me know if we are changing the way the game is played so I can recruit different players"?

Do you understand that if the scores are closer then the underdogs remain in the game for longer periods? and that their fans may still be interested in watching the game for longer than 20 mins?

[NorfolkStreetKid]

From the fans perspective, who pay money to watch the game and ultimately will decide the success of the game, it is a much better outcome.
As soon as someone is sent off, the game is effectively over and in 99% of cases the penalty of a send off is not even warranted. A 10 minute penalty is fair enough if that’s what the NRL really want to enforce but at the end of the day as long as you can tackle there will he ones that go accidentally high. Deliberate dog high shots should be send offs but anything accidental should never be sent off.

Plus your argument doesn’t even make sense. If the seasoned NRL player is so much better than Joe Blogs, then why was Joe Blogs on ahead of him in the first place?

If what you say is correct, and 99% of games where a player is sent off means a loss to his team, the coaches will make them play to the rules. I want anyone who deliberately or carelessly hits the head of an oppposing player sent off, accidental contact should be treated differently. the rules haven't changed, they just need to be enforced.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

That PVL dope said that ruuby leeg is not about winning on the same show. Get lost you clueless git.

I'm guessing you don't like PVL

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

Yeah, I was making slightly racist fun at the preferred change in pronouncement that is now prevelent.

I never thought you was being racist but its hard to tell who they are talking about. The guy from Parra has almost the same name.

[ccfc bondi]

Nothing wrong with 2 conferences - Sydney one and non Sydney one - Sydney one 3 grades on the same day/night

No they are the same rules- just like road rules - they have double demerits during Public Holiday periods -same rules just double the points for the offence


SECTION 15 PLAYER’S MISCONDUCT Definition of 1. A player is guilty of misconduct if he: misconduct
(a) trips, kicks or strikes another player.
(b) when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly.
(c) drops knees first on to an opponent who is on the ground
(d) uses any dangerous throw when effecting a tackle.
(e) deliberately and continuously breaks the Laws of the Game.
(f) uses offensive or obscene language.
(g) disputes a decision of the Referee or Touch Judge.
(h) re-enters the field of play without the permission of the Referee or a Touch Judge having previously temporarily retired from the game.
(i) behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game.
(j) deliberately obstructs an opponent who is not in possession.
(k) uses a shoulder charge on an opponent
(l) applies any unnecessary pressure or twists, including grapples, crushers or performs a “chicken wing” style hold on a player in possession.
(m) forcefully spears at the legs of a player in possession, exposing him to unnecessary risk of injury.

No-one is saying that attempting to make contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly should be tolerated. This is what PV and others trying to take the moral high ground and calling others dinosaurs don't understand! (though PV's motives are probably also tied up with new CEOs doing their thing of trying to make a mark, along with his ridiculous rule changes).

He and journos like Kenty roll out this 'we have to stamp out attacking the head' argument like they're some sort of crusader. That is not the issue! The issue is THIS WILL NOT STOP ACCIDENTAL COLLISIONS. Teams should not be left short-handed because a player's head falls into someone's shoulder, for instance. Last night on NRL 360 our own coach Robbo...you know, that guy who's doing more to look after players' heads than any other coach??....came out and said the player who got sin-binned for making contact with Teddy's head in magic round should not have been sin-binned! Are you going to call him a dinosaur? Get real, people! Stop being myopic virtue signalling fools like V'landys!

[Johnny Tobin]

I have no problem with it and it sure as hell didn't spoil my Magic Round trip (which I encourage everyone to try).

It actually added a bit of excitement to the games for me.

Talking of disappearing, the whole game will disappear if they don't get a grip on concussion.