I prefer the 1 captain so Artie, Freddie & Hugh McGahn are before him.
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3 Premierships thus far, 2 as captain (the other one as vice captain I think?)
IMO he's basically a specialist captain. He's never been our strongest or most gifted player. However, he always shows up and has solutions for the team. One can bag his public speaking but he's like one of those emotionless tradies who only chooses good subbies, puts together the perfect team, does things once, does it on time, does it right and then sorta chortles through his nose afterwards when you compliment him. There isn't a more reliable player in the comp! Smith will own the decade that has been... Cords will be the next definite immortal IMO.
PS - I have NEVER seen a guy with bigger hands!!! I'm one of those freaks who isn't that tall but used to walk up to the cardboard cut-outs of NBA playera as a kid and be like 'hahaha my hand is bigger than Shaq's!!!' Cords has my measure and they are fukking solid too! You would NOT wanna be palmed off by one of those things.
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Originally posted by IRoosterManI View Post
I guess the way i judge it is just how the team reacts to his presence on the field.. i remember going to a game in 2003 against the sharks.. we were winning pretty comfortably by 20+ points so Ricky took Freddy from the field early.. almost instantly we started to fall apart and let Cronulla grind there way back into the game.. it was looking so bad that Freddy came back on (never have i seen a player taken off to be wrapped in cotton wool only to be called back onto the field). With Freddy back the team all of a sudden got control of the game again and we went on to win... I remember leaving the SFS thinking "we are in trouble when Freddy retires".
just playing devil's advocate but why do we assume that cords has had more influence as captain than friendy?
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Originally posted by OMR View PostArtie will always be our all time favourite, but Cordner might turn out our best ever captain. He started as a 16-17 y.o. with us and will eventually retire as a Rooster. Has captained us to 2 titles ( won a third with more to come), captained NSW and his country. Inspirational player and captain who says “ do as I do” and not as I say.
I’ve admired what he does for years and I hope that when he retires he has 6 premiership rings and stays involved with the Roosters in some capacity.
Cordner, Beetson and Dave Brown have all won 2 premierships as captain. All 3 have captained Australia....Brown at 22 years of age. Its a triple dead heat as to who is the greatest.
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Originally posted by IRoosterManI View Post
I guess the way i judge it is just how the team reacts to his presence on the field.. i remember going to a game in 2003 against the sharks.. we were winning pretty comfortably by 20+ points so Ricky took Freddy from the field early.. almost instantly we started to fall apart and let Cronulla grind there way back into the game.. it was looking so bad that Freddy came back on (never have i seen a player taken off to be wrapped in cotton wool only to be called back onto the field). With Freddy back the team all of a sudden got control of the game again and we went on to win... I remember leaving the SFS thinking "we are in trouble when Freddy retires".
We murdered them about 28 nil in the 1st half. Freddy got an early rest after Tony Puletua dumped him on his shoulder. Penrith stormed back to like 28-16 then Sticky unleashed Freddy again who promptly scored to seal the win.
God.
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I think with Cords it'll be a case of what don't know what we've lost until it's gone. The ultimate 1% er player.
I think it's probably the case with Cords, JWH and Friend actually. All three have built their careers at the Roosters and all three play with 100% heart. They have been the cornerstone of the pack all the way from 2013 through to now, the heart of a team responsible for 3 premierships, 2 minor premierships, broken NRL attacking and defensive records, and are the key bricks of the infamous 'Bondi Wall.'
All three will likely retire in short order too.
We'll be left with a gaping chasm when they move on, culturally, spiritually, and in leadership.
I was actually thinking the other day that in hindsight, our 2013 pack is likely the greatest ever to win the comp: JWH - SBW - Cordner - Friend - O'Donnell - Moa - Aubusson - FPN. Imagine if we could have brought Morley over from England on loan for that year (which i think was rumoured incorrectly for a breif time). Any opposition would be shitting their dacks surely.Last edited by Steakface; 05-31-2020, 11:37 PM.
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Originally posted by Tommy Smith View PostI believe this game was vs Penrith away.
We murdered them about 28 nil in the 1st half. Freddy got an early rest after Tony Puletua dumped him on his shoulder. Penrith stormed back to like 28-16 then Sticky unleashed Freddy again who promptly scored to seal the win.
God.
But the fact that Freddy done it on yet another occasion proves my point even further.
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Originally posted by Steakface View PostI think with Cords it'll be a case of what don't know what we've lost until it's gone. The ultimate 1% er player.
I think it's probably the case with Cords, JWH and Friend actually. All three have built their careers at the Roosters and all three play with 100% heart. They have been the cornerstone of the pack all the way from 2013 through to now, the heart of a team responsible for 3 premierships, 2 minor premierships, broken NRL attacking and defensive records, and are the key bricks of the infamous 'Bondi Wall.'
All three will likely retire in short order too.
We'll be left with a gaping chasm when they move on, culturally, spiritually, and in leadership.
I was actually thinking the other day that in hindsight, our 2013 pack is likely the greatest ever to win the comp: JWH - SBW - Cordner - Friend - O'Donnell - Moa - Aubusson - FPN. Imagine if we could have brought Morley over from England on loan for that year (which i think was rumoured incorrectly for a breif time). Any opposition would be shitting their dacks surely.
jwh doesn't have a (c) but you'd say he provides inspirational leadership.
rosy case scenario those guys have a few more years left.
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Originally posted by zac View Post
to be fair freddy was a great player and might have had that effect even without the (c).
just playing devil's advocate but why do we assume that cords has had more influence as captain than friendy?My Roosters Channel - youtube.com/IRoostermanI
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Love Cords, but seriously Cronk has been our onfield Captain for the last 2 years. I don't understand the need to name someone as the best ever captain, when the teams change so much. Cords will go down as a great Roosters player along with many others, I rate all of them that gave it all for the RW and B.
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You know you have a champion team when Captain Cords turned up to play last Friday
the early rounds saw the headless chooks capitulate and of course the nay sayers looked for blame
You know in your heart of hearts our skipper can carry this team all the way this season
Good skippers help the coach make crucial selection decisions
Every Easts Captain who led a Premiership side deserves our highest honour
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