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The Cooper Cronk experiment isn’t working for the Roosters — can he change?
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Originally posted by Maxy Walker View Post
I wouldn’t really describe it as either wrong or right. More as being kinda repetitive and obseessed with the one scapegoat instead of having a broader perspective.
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No doubt our spine isn't playing well, even Keary deserves criticism for the last couple games IMO.
The thread asks is Cronk delivering. I'd say no, though he has shown flashes of why we bought him.
Just ask yourself if we were here now with Pearce in 7, whos head would the Chookpen be calling for. Cronk deserves the same criticism.
Last year Cronk and Pearce were statisticaly almost a mirror of one another and Pearce was his old self in Newcastle.
I wonder if Coops is doubting himself?Originally posted by jism
I saw Reynolds crying in front of me after the game and yelled out 'WHAT ARE YOU CRYING ABOUT?!?!? GO SAY SORRY TO COOPER YOU GRUB!!!' He looked up at me with a pretty broken looking face.
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Originally posted by Arties Pie View Post
So no you can't say if I am right or wrong just that you are sick of hearing hearing that some may see Friend as a major cause of the issues we have.... Too bad deal with it.
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How many times have we even attacked down the right edge this year? We really have to start developing on that side of the field because we have become so easy to read. Cronk has matto outside of him who has about as much penetration as I do after 10 drinks and no Viagra . We really need Crighton hard line running on that side or matto has to be used in a passing capacity.
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Originally posted by Maxy Walker View Post
Well no you’re definitely wrong to focus on one person as the cause of everything. That’s just silly.
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Originally posted by Arties Pie View Post
My focus was the ball the first receiver get's from friend alot of the time is either or including slow, forward, wide of the mark over the head or at the feet of the first receiver now the time it takes for the first receiver to wait, scoop or jump for the pass slows the whole chain of that posession allowing the defence to get into our offensive line far quicker than what would have been if his service was quick and accurate unfortunantly this isn't a one off but rather more more of the same from Friend...
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Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View PostRead the Matty Johns article in todays Astonisher for a proper analysis of where we are at, and how to improve.
Cant post links etc. sorry.
Matthew Johns, The Daily Telegraph
May 3, 2018 5:09pm
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THE Sydney Roosters are struggling to find their attacking mojo.
Coming off a World Cup year, it’s understandable. Their key signings arrived back to training late and while the Roosters expected the key combinations to click early, anyone who’s played in the creative positions knows communication and execution under pressure takes time to get right.
Time on the training paddock helps, but it’s a bit like the boxer punching away at the heavy bag, the bag don’t hit back. And for the playmaker in training drills, the defenders don’t rush and attack you the same way defenders do on game day.
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But it’s not just combinations, the Roosters need to tweak a few of their attacking principles.
So far in 2018 they are playing a lot of middle-field football, which is suiting the way defences like to form up and protect their territory.
One of the golden rules of defence is to rush up square and, under no circumstances, turn out or start to drift outwards until the football has passed by you.Cooper Cronk‘s plays should just be the start. (Phil Hillyard)
Attacking a defence from the middle or the posts areas suits this defensive principle perfectly because it involves a playmaker generally taking the football to the line. So rushing up and remaining square gives the playmaker and his gap runners little space to work in.
Last week we saw St George Illawarra’s Tariq Sims rush halfback Cooper Cronk aggressively, while the Dragons’ outside defenders had the discipline to remain square. As a consequence, the Roosters’ attacking plays were suffocated.
Attacking from the middle should be the beginning of your attacking sequence.
To again use a boxing analogy, it’s the left jab which sets your opponent up for the right cross.The Dragons were quick to deny the Roosters space. (AAP Image/Dan Himbrechts)
Teams are coached to get numbers into tackles these days. The Dragons are brilliant at getting defenders all over where the football is, but it’s got to leave them short on numbers somewhere.
That’s where the right cross comes in and lands.
Go forward to the middle, put on an attacking play to gather defensive numbers and then attack the vulnerability at the opposite far edge.
In 2018, defences are struggling with attacking teams who are willing to push the football from one edge to the other rapidly because it doesn’t suit the defensive principles they are taught.
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Moving the ball, using those tired block formations suits a defence that goes up and remains square because the transfer of the football is too slow. But when a team is willing to fire the football across a field in the style of, let’s say the 1990s Canberra Raiders era, it catches this type of defence short of numbers because they don’t slide quickly enough to cover the threat.
Believe me, what’s old is new again.
After watching the Roosters-Dragons game numerous times, I can see the tricolours aren’t far away from getting their attack right.It won’t be long til the Chooks are smiling. (Brett Costello)
What they need to do is view that attacking play they continually use from the middle, involving Cronk, as just the beginning of an attacking sequence of plays, rather than being the big play and resetting the middle again if it’s unsuccessful.
All a reset does is reset the defence.
If the Roosters can loosen their structure and be willing to attack from edge to edge, with fast ball movement, they’ll certainly be rewarded.
This, in turn, will loosen the opposition middle defence, allow the Roosters’ big men easier go forward, and in turn bring fullback James Tedesco into the game.
The belief was, it would take the Roosters until mid-season to play their best football. I think the significant improvement starts this Sunday.
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Originally posted by 200 IQ View PostGreat article from Andrew Webster here. Blaming Friend is popular and there is hatred towards Robinson but our big name halfback simply has not aimed up at all this season. 3 try assists according to this article, that’s pathetic.
The Cooper Cronk experiment isn’t working for the Roosters — can he change?
Last Thursday, after being thumped in the Anzac Day match against the Dragons, the Roosters made the long, exhausting trip over the Harbour Bridge to teammate Cooper Cronk’s $3.5 million home at Mosman for a barbecue.
In between solving the problems of the world over the Jatz and dip, we can’t help but wonder if any of the players asked a delicate question …
“Um, Coops … Any danger of firing a shot this season, big fella?”
On the surface, it’s a valid question: according to Champion Data, Cronk has provided just three try assists and two line-break assists so far this season.
Roosters coach Trent Robinson can bang on as much as he wants about building houses and foundations but the very costly Cronk experiment — reportedly at $1 million per season and at the expense of the popular Mitchell Pearce — is yet to really bear fruit.
Let’s ponder the obvious hypothetical question: if the Roosters had also kept Pearce as they wanted, instead of granting him a release to the Knights, would they have dropped Cronk — one of the most dominant halfbacks in the past decade — or persisted with an attack that’s as smooth as sandpaper?
Cronk didn’t sign with the Roosters until late October but the Roosters can hardly complain about taking time to adjust with a new-look team. They’ve added one of the great halfbacks to their line-up, along with one of the game’s best fullbacks in James Tedesco.
Teams like the Dragons and Knights have had greater upheaval and player turnover, yet they are playing with far greater fluency than the eastern suburbs glamour club that always gets the biggest names, the best players.
Some judges could forecast this early season pain with Cronk coming into the Roosters side.
It’s become a cliché about how structured, almost robotic, his game is. That’s not a criticism. Playing under the People’s Republic of Craig Bellamy, he rarely made a mistake when he was in his pomp. He is what he is.
Better judges than this one will tell you the game has changed, though. The teams that play structured footy are beginning to struggle. Defences are too well-drilled, too disciplined, and especially so with the increase in penalties when players are given more time to recover before defending another set.
There has been talk for the last week or so about the Roosters completely changing their attack to a less structured style and it will be fascinating to see if Cronk can bend and become something that he is not — or less comfortable with — as the season unfolds.
The year is only young but the Roosters are four-and-four and anything less than a big win over a broken Manly side at Allianz Stadium on Sunday will be considered a setback.
The Dragons were great on Anzac Day but Roosters fans surely left Allianz frustrated.
Modern-day centres don’t seem to get the ball much at all these days but Latrell Mitchell — for mine, the most exciting young player in the game, and that includes Kalyn Ponga — may as well start wearing long sleeve jumpers, he’s that underused.
The man that matters the most — Roosters chairman Nick Politis — is not panicking. He sees players hurting over their start to the season and knows they are not taking it lightly.
But the Roosters are a club that counts success in premierships. They bought Cronk, just as they bought Sonny Bill Williams a few years back, to deliver one.
They’re a long away from it.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/the...03-p4zd82.html
Pearce was here over 10 years
Cronk 6 months
& you 6 weeks......
Seems you have loads of cred to back your opinion"Qui audet adipiscitur"
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