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  • #16
    The only one I would swap him for is Bellamy. Actually, maybe not. I don’t know how he would go without Smith.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Johnny Tobin View Post
      The only one I would swap him for is Bellamy. Actually, maybe not. I don’t know how he would go without Smith.
      Remember his 2 year stint in Origin coaching AGAINST Smith?

      Awful.

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      • #18
        The only issue I have with the coach is that there has been no improvement to our ill discipline. Even in 2013 we were the most penalised team. Dumb brainless errors by the same players and it continues. I doubt Bellamy would put up with that for a game. Certainly not 5 years.
        Embrace the Hate! JC

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        • #19
          Originally posted by John Corey View Post
          The only issue I have with the coach is that there has been no improvement to our ill discipline. Even in 2013 we were the most penalised team. Dumb brainless errors by the same players and it continues. I doubt Bellamy would put up with that for a game. Certainly not 5 years.
          Can’t pin that on him. It went back more than a decade. We have to wait for a new generation of refs.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

            Latrell is not a quantity output player. What you say isn't untrue because for centres in the NRL last year Latrell Mitchell ranked in the bottom third for average possessions per game.

            However for centres, Latrell Mitchell ranked 1st in the NRL for Total Try Involvements per game last year, 1st in Avg Linebreaks & eqaul 1st in Avg tries per game.

            The same argument can be made for Luke Keary. In 2017 Keary ranked in the bottom four 5/8's for average possessions per game yet amongst the 5/8's he ranked 1st in Avg Linebreaks, 1st in Avg Linebreak Assists & 1st in average Try Assists.

            These aren't quantity players, they're quality players!!

            Robinson is a genius, you're just too smart to see it!
            So our 2 most lethal players you are saying let’s get them less ball while the other team is 130 odd point team better than us a year? Makes sense. Also whilst dealing with a player with obvious engagement issues you are saying not only give him less ball but make it known and part of our plan to ‘limitt’ his involvement? Based on that logic imagine how far ahead of the field Latrell could be, in turn how far ahead of the field the Roosters could have been.

            Use stays all you like, if you are happy with the involvement and ‘coached invovlement’ of a Latrell then so be it. I am not.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

              Ignoring what a ridiculous premise this is to measure a coaches ability I can't help but just point out how factually incorrect this insinuation through question is.

              Below is a table of the Top 20 Avg forward metre makers of the 2017 season. And on the right of the table is how many representatives from each club appear in that top 20.








              Geez Craig Bellamy has got some hard questions to answer for after the 2017 season.
              Firstly I spoke specifically of middle 3rd players, so quoting Cordner and referencing his 80 min stats against the other players 50-60 minute stats is a poor foundation for an argument. So take Cordner out we now have the 12th and 18th anked middle in the game, and then my concern, daylight thereafter for our side. Have you got other important (offloads, post contact metres, penalties, errors) middle 3rd stats to go with these, especially the one so mentioned in tandem with my post?

              Ahh yes the storm who spent all their time scoring try’s and kicking goals and most importantly rotating their interchange properly equating to an better SMARTER spread of minutes of Brom, Glasby, McLean, Finucane, Asofa etc. whilst our middle resorted to errors, penalties and watching our wingers create their own fatigue doing all the carries.

              The outstanding comment you make is tour inference that theres no res no link to the coaching here.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

                C'mon BC if you're going to try and belittle me by using common sense* at least spell it correctly.

                I believe the law of diminishing return partially has a lot to answer for as to why your simple solution isn't so simple & easy.

                Give the best player on the field more ball might work in Under 10's, not at NRL level.
                LOL when somebody uses spelling as a comeback


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Johnny Tobin View Post
                  The only one I would swap him for is Bellamy. Actually, maybe not. I don’t know how he would go without Smith.
                  Be interesting to see how Cronk (and the Storm) go this year. Whatever happens, eyes will be on us.

                  IMO basically all Cronk has done is master all the basics of footy. In a comp full of flogs, thugs and show ponies, he’s smart enough to realise that so long as he holds onto the ball, keeps his cool and doesn’t do anything stupid, then the game is his.

                  As such, I think he would be an awesome coach. Far too many players wanna look good by holding the ball with one hand, doing no look passes and offloading for no reason. Cronk’s like tge calm the fark down and play properly kind guy...
                  Last edited by ism22; 01-22-2018, 08:16 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Robbo has me worried for the reasons already listed by other posters (<ME> in particular). Where's the improvement in the team that doesn't come from injections of players such as SBW, Jennings, Maloney, and Keary? And the less said about the cows prelim, the better - coach has to wear that one as well as the players.
                    "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                    Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Johnny Tobin View Post
                      The only one I would swap him for is Bellamy. Actually, maybe not. I don’t know how he would go without Smith.
                      Post of the short year so far by a long mile.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                        Be interesting to see how Cronk (and the Storm) go this year. Whatever happens, eyes will be on us.

                        IMO basically all Cronk has done is master all the basics of footy. In a comp full of flogs, thugs and show ponies, he’s smart enough to realise that so long as he holds onto the ball, keeps his cool and doesn’t do anything stupid, then the game is his.

                        As such, I think he would be an awesome coach. Far too many players wanna look good by holding the ball with one hand, doing no look passes and offloading for no reason. Cronk’s like tge calm the fark down and play properly kind guy...
                        Cronk is about the only reason I am looking forward to the season. He is the best halfback we have ever had. He's a massive improvement on Pearce.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Johnny Tobin View Post

                          Cronk is about the only reason I am looking forward to the season. He is the best halfback we have ever had. He's a massive improvement on Pearce.
                          Don’t forget Teddy, slight upgrade on Gordon.
                          ...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post

                            Don’t forget Teddy, slight upgrade on Gordon.
                            That too.

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                            • #29
                              ill never criticise flash he went very well rfor us on top of his brilliant tgoal kicking he made many breaks scored a few tries and saved plenty!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Johnny Tobin View Post

                                Cronk is about the only reason I am looking forward to the season. He is the best halfback we have ever had. He's a massive improvement on Pearce.
                                Only prob is he at the Viagra age and stage hehe
                                Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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