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  • #31
    Originally posted by PeeGee View Post
    On conspiracy theories, I have to agree that it seems the NRL loves to ensure that the premiership is spread around.

    I think Cronulla is tha only Sydney based team not to win a premiership.

    I'm expecting the Warriors and Sharks to get almost every 50/50 call in their games. Throw Canberra into the mix with the draw they got.

    Finally, I remember Phil Gould stating during late 2004 that a SENIOR nrl rep asked him when the roosters were gonna give other teams a chance. Btw Gus was dead serious and he said so was the NRL 'management' rep.

    So what happened in 2004. We lose to the dogs in the GF where we were completely ripped off. Just ask Freddy on his thoughts.

    Happily, it seemed the NRL had completely forgiven the Dogs for the salary cap Rort in 2002......

    Mmmmm
    WTF were they on about? We had one premiership win in 29 years at that stage? How about looking at the likes of the Dogs and Broncos who are rarely far away from a premiership

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post


      Skids got us one against Manly back in 2010
      He had already scored the try and was fouled.

      I am astonished that people do not understand what constitutes the act of scoring a try. No wonder so many people on here whinge about the referees since they don't know the laws of the game they don't know what they're talking about.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post

        WTF were they on about? We had one premiership win in 29 years at that stage? How about looking at the likes of the Dogs and Broncos who are rarely far away from a premiership
        Yeah I get what you're saying but it suits the NRL for different teams to win the premiership. It's good for business. Look at how many different teams have won in recent history.
        Yep teams go on a run, manly, storm, broncos, roosters, etc. but not many teams go back to back. Recently, none.
        Souths, cowboys, etc. soon, sharks, warriors, and raiders.
        Roosters For Ever

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Hollus View Post

          Ahhh Luke Phillips doesn't even ref anymore.

          You guys think the bunker gets it wrong?? It's nothing compared to the amount of shit that gets made up on this site.
          Obviously I meant Luke patten.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Braith Anasta's Wallet View Post

            He had already scored the try and was fouled.

            I am astonished that people do not understand what constitutes the act of scoring a try. No wonder so many people on here whinge about the referees since they don't know the laws of the game they don't know what they're talking about.

            Yeah I mis-read 66's post. I thought he was saying he had never seen an 8 point try

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Braith Anasta's Wallet View Post

              He had already scored the try and was fouled.

              I am astonished that people do not understand what constitutes the act of scoring a try. No wonder so many people on here whinge about the referees since they don't know the laws of the game they don't know what they're talking about.
              lol BAW.

              I'm astonished that we get a different interpretation of the rules on a weekly basis by those that are paid, and are apparently the best refs on this planet. This is sometimes followed by an apology by Archer who states his men(the best refs in the world) got it wrong. You expect the fans of the game to know the rules when those employed by the NRL get it wrong? FFS!

              Did you see the Sharks penalty try last night? I and many others don't think he would've scored yet it was awarded. Unless something freakish was to occur, common sense tells us Manu definitely would've scored and No Try was the decision.

              The laws of the game are so grey and open to interpretation. They are perfect for engineering results and manipulating the ladder to keep more fans engaged.

              NRL is a betting agencies dream. If only they could be a major stake holder.

              Bet responsibly.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Hollus View Post

                An 8 point try can only be given in the act of scoring a try. If the ball is never grounded it can never be an 8 point try because a try was never scored.
                Not so Grasshopper........May I table Craig Smith's infamous 8 point try 1999 GF. Jamie Ainscough's deliberate swinging arm knocked Smith out before he grounded the ball!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by theGman View Post

                  Not so Grasshopper........May I table Craig Smith's infamous 8 point try 1999 GF. Jamie Ainscough's deliberate swinging arm knocked Smith out before he grounded the ball!

                  Are you seriously arguing this?? That was a penalty try, it was not an 8 pointer. the conversion was taken in front because it was a penalty try but there was no original conversion attempt from the sideline.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETgWxcurqlk
                  Last edited by Hollus; 06-27-2016, 12:51 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by theGman View Post

                    Not so Grasshopper........May I table Craig Smith's infamous 8 point try 1999 GF. Jamie Ainscough's deliberate swinging arm knocked Smith out before he grounded the ball!
                    That was awarded as a penalty try, the kick was taken from in front. It was not an 8 point try.
                    ...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by 2026 View Post
                      I think it's another one of the games grey areas that can and will be interpreted differently by the games officials for what ever reason. We see this every round albeit not specifically about an 8 point try.

                      The rules in regards to an 8 point try do state " in the act of scoring a try"

                      The definition of "Act" - Anything done, being done or to be done.

                      So you can be in the act of scoring a try without actually grounding the ball.

                      Nope. The act of scoring a try must include you successfully grounding the ball. Much like the act of murdering someone must involve that person dying. No death, and it's attempted murder. No grounding, and you are only attempting to score a try.

                      The try must be scored to get the 8 points, as you get 4 for the try, plus the chance to take your normal conversion for successfully touching the ball down, then ANOTHER shot right in front for the offence. If you never touch the ball down, then the try gets awarded right under the black dot regardless of where the offence occurred, and as such you get to take your shot from right in front.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Hollus View Post


                        Are you seriously arguing this?? That was a penalty try, it was not an 8 pointer. the conversion was taken in front because it was a penalty try but there was no original conversion attempt from the sideline.

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETgWxcurqlk
                        I stand corrected. So if he had grounded it then would it have been an 8 pointer?

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                        • #42
                          Spot on. If he touches down, try awarded, regular conversion attempted from out wide, plus penalty kick from right in front for the high shot. Possible 8 point try

                          Because he dropped it, penalty try awarded under the posts, conversion taken from where the penalty try was awarded right in from of the sticks. Possible 6 point try as usual.

                          We got awarded a possible 8 point try against Manly in 2010 I believe it was. Skids scored a long range try off a Perrett line break, and Lyon came over the top of him dropping hisforearm onto SKD's head while he was still on the ground after touching the ball down.

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