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  • #61
    We're not comparing him to Inglis, Hayne, Slater. You stated that he's clearly no Inglis or Hayne because he isn't dominating at the rip old age of freshly turned 18.

    And in response to this it was pointed out that the greatest fullback of the modern era - Slater - didn't debut until he was 19 1/2, which kind of sinks your theory. And Matt Moylan, the best ball playing fullback in the game today, didn't his his straps until he was 23.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

      I don't think people are saying that at all.
      Speaking for myself, and I think most posters on here would agree, I am commenting on your assertion that he will amount to nothing simply because he is not dominating NRL now. I don't have any pre-conceived idea of him being an Inglis, Hayne or even an RTS. I am simply saying that you cannot write him off simply because he is not dominating NRL NOW. He may end up becoming a chanp. He may end up a good solid first grade fullback. But to say he will amount to nothing because he SHOULD be dominating NRL now, at age just turned 18, is ridiculous.

      Please quote me where I said he would amount to nothing because he is not ready for first grade at 18. Hell quote me on where I said he should be dominating first grade right now!

      I only said that he would not be an ELITE player in the mould of Inglis or Hayne because both of those guys were already ready for first grade and indeed dominating it at that age. Thats what makes them such special players. He could turn out to be a great player, but the odds of him turning out to be the best player of his generation (which is what calling him the next Inglis means) are already very much against him.

      Honestly some of you people need to take a ****ing chill pill from time to time

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Danish View Post


        Please quote me where I said he would amount to nothing because he is not ready for first grade at 18. Hell quote me on where I said he should be dominating first grade right now!

        I only said that he would not be an ELITE player in the mould of Inglis or Hayne because both of those guys were already ready for first grade and indeed dominating it at that age. Thats what makes them such special players. He could turn out to be a great player, but the odds of him turning out to be the best player of his generation (which is what calling him the next Inglis means) are already very much against him.

        Honestly some of you people need to take a ****ing chill pill from time to time

        We should call you Foran.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
          We're not comparing him to Inglis, Hayne, Slater. You stated that he's clearly no Inglis or Hayne because he isn't dominating at the rip old age of freshly turned 18.

          And in response to this it was pointed out that the greatest fullback of the modern era - Slater - didn't debut until he was 19 1/2, which kind of sinks your theory. And Matt Moylan, the best ball playing fullback in the game today, didn't his his straps until he was 23.

          If Hayne played for Melbourne and Slater for Parramatta, the 2 wouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Hayne is by far the superior player. That is not a slight on Slater, who I consider the equal 2nd best fullback I've ever seen (equal with Mini pre-spinal injuries). Just Hayne is an absolute freak.

          Moylan is immensely overrated largely due to the fact he is the first genuinely good white fullback in some time. The great white hope for channel 9. He is in no way an elite player nor will he ever be. He isn't even as good as Dugan, and the Dugan is more than a few rungs below guys like Inglis and Hayne.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Danish View Post


            Please quote me where I said he would amount to nothing because he is not ready for first grade at 18. Hell quote me on where I said he should be dominating first grade right now!

            I only said that he would not be an ELITE player in the mould of Inglis or Hayne because both of those guys were already ready for first grade and indeed dominating it at that age. Thats what makes them such special players. He could turn out to be a great player, but the odds of him turning out to be the best player of his generation (which is what calling him the next Inglis means) are already very much against him.

            Honestly some of you people need to take a ****ing chill pill from time to time
            Sorry, my apologies. You didn't say he would amount to nothing. I've just re-checked your post. My mistake and I do apologise.

            You did say if he was not playing consistent NRL football at this stage then he would not become an elite player. On this I still disagree. He has just turned 18. Other elite footballers have become 'elite' foootballers without playing consistent NRL football at the age of 18.

            Also, I am not stating he will become an Inglis or Hayne. I am simply stating that you cannot make a judgement on his future based on whether he is playing consistent NRL football at his current tender age of just tuurned 18.

            And I'm already chilled thanks. I'm not the one swearing. And again sorry for mis-quoting you.

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            • #66
              Danish sounds ready to implode. I'd pay money to watch that happen.

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              • #67
                Danish with some quality stupid here.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Danish View Post


                  If Hayne played for Melbourne and Slater for Parramatta, the 2 wouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Hayne is by far the superior player. That is not a slight on Slater, who I consider the equal 2nd best fullback I've ever seen (equal with Mini pre-spinal injuries). Just Hayne is an absolute freak.

                  Moylan is immensely overrated largely due to the fact he is the first genuinely good white fullback in some time. The great white hope for channel 9. He is in no way an elite player nor will he ever be. He isn't even as good as Dugan, and the Dugan is more than a few rungs below guys like Inglis and Hayne.
                  WTF?? What is that supposed to mean?

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                  • #69
                    Dugan, Tedesco, Moylan... all brilliant imo. And all white!

                    Tedesco in particular is an absolute freak! If he develops a consistent passing game - we saw one genius pass two weeks ago - then he can become truly great.

                    Roosters fan too.

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                    • #70
                      Manu is currently the better player who I see doing great things sooner.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post

                        WTF?? What is that supposed to mean?
                        I missed that piece of Danish gold previously. #delusional

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Danish View Post
                          If Hayne played for Melbourne and Slater for Parramatta, the 2 wouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Hayne is by far the superior player. That is not a slight on Slater, who I consider the equal 2nd best fullback I've ever seen (equal with Mini pre-spinal injuries). Just Hayne is an absolute freak.
                          I don't know if I necessarily agree. IMO Hayne's used to pulling around a rubbish team with absolutely no talent, success, coaching or structure. Slater's used to being an integral part of a highly skilled team that has made the 8 pretty well every season he's been there.

                          Both are stars in their own right and IMO would have made it regardless. One can only speculate what they'd be like if they'd played for different teams. Hayne could have burned at the storm (e.g. if he was over-coached and not allowed as much freedom he might not have had as many chances to be a 1 man team and could have become frustrated... pure speculation). Slater could have opened up and become an even greater player if given more freedom at Parra. We'll never know!

                          Originally posted by Danish View Post
                          Moylan is immensely overrated largely due to the fact he is the first genuinely good white fullback in some time. The great white hope for channel 9. He is in no way an elite player nor will he ever be. He isn't even as good as Dugan, and the Dugan is more than a few rungs below guys like Inglis and Hayne.
                          Not sure why you're talking about races? There's a bunch of quality white fullbacks out there... Slater, Duges, Tedesco, Mini, Stewart, Tomkins, Boyd...etc. Don't really think race has anything to do with it?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                            I don't know if I necessarily agree. IMO Hayne's used to pulling around a rubbish team with absolutely no talent, success, coaching or structure. Slater's used to being an integral part of a highly skilled team that has made the 8 pretty well every season he's been there.

                            Both are stars in their own right and IMO would have made it regardless. One can only speculate what they'd be like if they'd played for different teams. Hayne could have burned at the storm (e.g. if he was over-coached and not allowed as much freedom he might not have had as many chances to be a 1 man team and could have become frustrated... pure speculation). Slater could have opened up and become an even greater player if given more freedom at Parra. We'll never know!



                            Not sure why you're talking about races? There's a bunch of quality white fullbacks out there... Slater, Duges, Tedesco, Mini, Stewart, Tomkins, Boyd...etc. Don't really think race has anything to do with it?
                            Wighton, Coote......

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                            • #74
                              Yep....the Race mention did have me bewildered as well.
                              Embrace the Hate! JC

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Macca View Post
                                Manu is currently the better player who I see doing great things sooner.
                                I agree, just not sure where he gets a look in.

                                Reckon he'll spend a fair fair part of his career floating between centre and second row.

                                Absolutely love watching him play though. Great skills.

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