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  • #16
    Originally posted by lydon View Post
    May i ask what grounds do we sack Watts over?

    Grub or no grub,surely he cant be sacked for calling Carney to go out?
    How old is Todd?

    Can someone please enlighten me?!
    I wonder if Watts will argue that he didn't know Todd was drinking alcohol.
    Todd said that he was having vodka and soda/oj to give the appearance to everyone within eye shot that he wasn't drinking alcohol.

    Whats to say Watts may argue that he didn't know Todd was drinking alcohol, and as such has been unfairly treated by the Roosters who havent sacked other players for alcohol breaches in the past.

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    • #17
      If the charges are dropped... I wouldn't be surprised if he suspended for the rest of this year and heavily fined...

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      • #18
        It wouldn't matter if Jesus Christ appeared on behalf of Watts, he will be sacked. As a club or league we cannot be seen in any way to even imply that violence on women is acceptable. Everyone knows the woman nearly always takes the abuser back, she had injruies = he bashed her = gets the farking sack! Noyce has already stated the breach notice will be served and Watts to appear before the board regadless of what happens in the courts = gone.

        If not, they have farking rocks in their heads.

        Chook.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Chook View Post
          It wouldn't matter if Jesus Christ appeared on behalf of Watts, he will be sacked. As a club or league we cannot be seen in any way to even imply that violence on women is acceptable. Everyone knows the woman nearly always takes the abuser back, she had injruies = he bashed her = gets the farking sack! Noyce has already stated the breach notice will be served and Watts to appear before the board regadless of what happens in the courts = gone.

          If not, they have farking rocks in their heads.

          Chook.
          I agree that if this has been done he should be sacked. But who has seen the injuries? Who can prove he bashed her?

          Unless you were in the room, or she comes forward and tells her story, this is all just hearsay, and what you have heard from journalists. If she says nothing, and the court finds him not guilty, then what? He had a drink in breach, big deal.

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          • #20
            The police must have seen her or surely they wouldn't have arrested him?
            They would have been able to judge the situation.
            How frustrating it is for them when it is a waste of time!
            Didn't she take out an AVO?

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            • #21
              apparently ive been banned on the 'wall' for making a joke about watts girlfriend 'changing her mind' the joke is on her of course i9f he did do what she told the police then follow through dont wuss out and let him walk, hell only do it again!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by stephenj View Post
                apparently ive been banned on the 'wall' for making a joke about watts girlfriend 'changing her mind' the joke is on her of course i9f he did do what she told the police then follow through dont wuss out and let him walk, hell only do it again!

                I've been banned on the wall.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                  "His lawyer Stephen Alexander told the magistrate Ms Kiss had refused to supply a signed statement to police and to allow them to photograph injuries.
                  Mr Alexander also entered a not guilty plea on behalf of the footballer."

                  No statement or physical evidence... he's refused to be interviewed and plead not guilty. IMO the prosecutors will struggle to get a prosecution as they will be relying on the police saying:
                  - We got a distress call.
                  - The lady was hurt but we don't know why... she said Watts did it I swear... although she now lives with him and denies making this claim.

                  Will be interesting...
                  Well played Steve Noyce,if the club sacked him on suspicion,they would have had to pay out a claim,the breach notice was smart chess.

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                  • #24
                    given the emergence of this story, i very much doubt Watts can get sacked

                    sure he had a drink whilst 'injured' but so did Carney

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by stephenj View Post
                      apparently ive been banned on the 'wall' for making a joke about watts girlfriend 'changing her mind' the joke is on her of course i9f he did do what she told the police then follow through dont wuss out and let him walk, hell only do it again!
                      LOL Stephen. That is why I love the Chookpen. I would have been banned 50 times by now on the Wall.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Maggie View Post
                        He was drinking while recovering from injury. That, added to other breaches, is enough.
                        Anyone with any sense will know why he gets sacked and Carney doesn't.
                        Can't believe that stupid, weak girl!!!! She and Bird's girlfriend have let all abused women/men down!
                        Did you read what Bird's girlfriend finally owned up to doing?

                        I'm not saying the girl in this Watt's case did or said anything at all.

                        Other women in domestics have hit the man, slapped, pushed or punched him.
                        The man has retaliated in anger.
                        They have hurled verbal insults, saying vicious things they don't really mean....or do mean.
                        They've thrown plates etc, in fits of rage.
                        Liza was throwing lamps and things at her husband.

                        There's usually a whole lot of shouting, screaming and verbal abuse, I've heard some of them in my time.
                        The things that are said neither would really want detailed in a court.
                        How embarrassing!

                        Escaling verbal to physical is where the legal line is crossed.

                        2GB, 30 minutes ago:

                        "She has tweeted that she's happy to be on the Gold Coast".

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Big_Morls View Post
                          Greg Bird mk 2

                          He will be playing for the Titans in no time
                          You changed your tune after you objected many accusing him a few days ago, nevertheless I was also about to say the same thing. Its the Greg Bird all over again.
                          Last edited by ROC181; 04-22-2011, 12:39 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Chook Norris View Post
                            given the emergence of this story, i very much doubt Watts can get sacked

                            sure he had a drink whilst 'injured' but so did Carney
                            Different standards of proof in criminal matters. How an employer jumps after a criminal case collapses in this fashion mostly comes down to motive (of the employer).

                            I suspect the club is glad they have their casus belli and will still pull the trigger on it.
                            It's scientifically impossible for Easts to be in Souths' shadow when there's daylight between them and us.
                            Easts to win

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kurt Sherlock's Mo View Post
                              Different standards of proof in criminal matters. How an employer jumps after a criminal case collapses in this fashion mostly comes down to motive (of the employer).
                              yes, but then what's stopping Carney from getting sacked apart from sympathetic reasons regarding alcoholism?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Maggie View Post
                                The police must have seen her or surely they wouldn't have arrested him?
                                They would have been able to judge the situation.
                                How frustrating it is for them when it is a waste of time!
                                Didn't she take out an AVO?
                                Yes she did, but has agreed via the court for him to have contact.
                                I can't understand did she contact the police via 000, go to the police,
                                how did they become involved they would have had to see her & she
                                would have needed to make a statement or had marks consistant with
                                being abused, why didn't they take pictures then & a full statement,

                                I was physically & emotionally abused from the age of 6 till I was in
                                my 20's by a very abusive stepfather, in those days there was nowhere
                                to go, it wasn't untill I met my late Hubby I was safe, I spent so much
                                time at my grandparents & future inlaws.

                                No matter what comes out of the court he is an abuser & must be sacked
                                no questions asked.

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